What Fluid in a GM Hydroboost?

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What power steering fluid would you use in a GM hydroboost unit? I know some guys use ATF and some say not to. The manual calls for GM Power Steering Fluid, part no. 19329450.

The vehicles in question are a 2016 LML Duramax 3500 HD and a 2017 L5P Duramax 3500 HD.

The PS fluid on the 2016 is getting pretty nasty looking and the brakes and steering have been feeling pretty slow lately. At the last oil change on the 2016, I sucked out the reservoir and refilled it with Valvoline PS fluid and it improved the steering and braking feel some. I'd like to get a synthetic fluid of some sort in there that will hopefully hold up a little better than regular PS fluid. A synthetic would also flow better in these cold temps we've been having lately, which would be easier on the PS pump at startup.

If anyone has long term experience with using ATF in a GM hydroboost unit, please chime in with your experiences.

What is the best way to flush the PS system on these trucks?

I've always had good luck raising my past vehicles off the ground, removing the reservoir return hose and turning the wheels from lock to lock while adding fresh fluid, those vehicles were all rack and pinion steering though.

I've seen people on other forums and in YouTube videos flushing hydroboost units by removing the HB return hose and running a hose from the HB to a bucket or drain pan and then pumping/holding the brake (engine running) while turning the steering wheel to get fluid to circulate, obviously keeping the reservoir topped off while doing this.
Is there a better way to do this? How much fluid flows through the second return hose that comes off of the steering box and goes to the PS cooler and then back to the reservoir? How much pressure is that line under? I suspect not much, it's just a rubber hose with a clamp just like the return hose coming from the HB.

Would lifting the vehicle off the ground and cranking the wheels from lock to lock result in any fluid flow at either return line with the engine off? I'm not very familiar with this setup, just looking for ideas here.
 
You`ve already outlined a good metheod of flushing the system. I would look to see if there is a cooler in line as it sounds like you may have burned fluid. I always used gm PS fluid in the hydroboost in an Astrovan I had years ago. The Saginau power steering pumps will not tolerate contaminates of any kind.
 
Hydrobost is a older system. The auto parts stores have a fluid that meets the specification or at least the specification my 02 Astro used.. Several drain and refills should do it.

Rod
 
I've used GM power steering fluid which is terrible in my opinion, Royal Purple Max-EZ, Castrol Transynd TES-295, And Mobil Delvac 1 TES-295 in the hydroboost/PS system on my LBZ.

The latter 3 fluids are all about equal in performance & longevity, The Delvac 1 being the cheapest.
Duramax trucks don't have PS coolers....At least the LB7/LLY/LBZ/LMM/LML trucks don't. And very easily overheated in hot ambient's while maneuvering a trailer around.

I just run a hose off the HB return fitting into a bucket & have my wife stand on the brake pedal while I keep the reservoir full of fresh fluid. The fluid will run clean after about 3 quarts.
No need to turn the wheels as the fluid routes through the gear box on it's way to the HB unit. The gearbox also is constant return unlike the HB unit that only returns while stabbing the brake pedal.

The Saginaw power steering pump & hydroboost unit are the same as they have been for 40 years & have called for ATF in several non-GM applications.
 
Originally Posted by clinebarger
Originally Posted by KneeGrinder
I have used this.


https://www.merchant-automotive.com/Transynd1-Transynd-Full-Synthetic-Fluid.aspx


Why edit your post......Good info!!



It was not pertinent to his post, I only glazzed past the hydroboost part, and thought he was drain and filling his trans. My post was not accurate to his question. I don't feel Dex 6 has any place in a hyroboost...lol
 
Originally Posted by KneeGrinder
Originally Posted by clinebarger
Originally Posted by KneeGrinder
I have used this.


https://www.merchant-automotive.com/Transynd1-Transynd-Full-Synthetic-Fluid.aspx


Why edit your post......Good info!!



It was not pertinent to his post, I only glazzed past the hydroboost part, and thought he was drain and filling his trans. My post was not accurate to his question. I don't feel Dex 6 has any place in a hyroboost...lol


Didn't catch the Dexron VI part, I agree that LV ATF has no place in a HB unit.
 
Ya, I listed all three Dex lll, TES-295, Dex V l, the allision can use all 3, hydroboost= no, to Dex 6, atleast for me anyway.

Carry on. I vote TES-295 fluid.
 
Originally Posted by clinebarger
I've used GM power steering fluid which is terrible in my opinion, Royal Purple Max-EZ, Castrol Transynd TES-295, And Mobil Delvac 1 TES-295 in the hydroboost/PS system on my LBZ.

The latter 3 fluids are all about equal in performance & longevity, The Delvac 1 being the cheapest.
Duramax trucks don't have PS coolers....At least the LB7/LLY/LBZ/LMM/LML trucks don't. And very easily overheated in hot ambient's while maneuvering a trailer around.

I just run a hose off the HB return fitting into a bucket & have my wife stand on the brake pedal while I keep the reservoir full of fresh fluid. The fluid will run clean after about 3 quarts.
No need to turn the wheels as the fluid routes through the gear box on it's way to the HB unit. The gearbox also is constant return unlike the HB unit that only returns while stabbing the brake pedal.

The Saginaw power steering pump & hydroboost unit are the same as they have been for 40 years & have called for ATF in several non-GM applications.


My L5P definitely has a PS cooler, I looked it up by VIN to be sure. It's not a particularly large unit, but it has one none the less. I'm almost certain the LML has the same cooler, I'll look later and verify. These trucks are both cab and chassis trucks, so maybe that's why. It's GM part no. 84024888 If you wanna look into it. Thanks for the suggestions.
 
I've been using GM Power Steering fluid for in my 2008 3/4 ton with Hydro-boost going on 11 years and 180,000 miles. I remove some from the reservoir and replace it with fresh fluid once per year. You guys go ahead and use what you want, even the stuff GM recommends you not use. If it fails you have one push on the power brakes from the emergency accumulator and after that it's between you and your guardian Angel. Here is a pic with the Canadian serial number which is one off from the U.S.one. Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about. Your owners manual clearly calls for GM power steering fluid.

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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
I've been using GM Power Steering fluid for in my 2008 3/4 ton going on 11 years and 180,000 miles. I remove some from the reservoir and replace it with fresh fluid once per year. You guys go ahead and use what you want, even the stuff GM recommends you not use. If it fails you have one push on the power brakes from the emergency accumulator and after that it's between you and your guardian Angel. Here is a pic with the Canadian serial number which is one off from the U.S.one. Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about.



GM doesn't pay for repairs on my truck, I wouldn't expect a Canadian to know how inferior GM P/S fluid is in sustained hot ambient temperatures. The OE fluid on my truck boiled over at @25,000 miles while backing my 5th wheel camper into my backyard on a 110° day. The RP & TES-295 has never done that.
 
Originally Posted by clinebarger
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
I've been using GM Power Steering fluid for in my 2008 3/4 ton going on 11 years and 180,000 miles. I remove some from the reservoir and replace it with fresh fluid once per year. You guys go ahead and use what you want, even the stuff GM recommends you not use. If it fails you have one push on the power brakes from the emergency accumulator and after that it's between you and your guardian Angel. Here is a pic with the Canadian serial number which is one off from the U.S.one. Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about.



GM doesn't pay for repairs on my truck, I wouldn't expect a Canadian to know how inferior GM P/S fluid is in sustained hot ambient temperatures. The OE fluid on my truck boiled over at @25,000 miles while backing my 5th wheel camper into my backyard on a 110° day. The RP & TES-295 has never done that.



So what do you think the "boiling" temp of GM powered steering fluid is? Come on man. I've towed trailers down 8 degree slopes on the sides of mountains. Even Texas " hill country" can't compete the with that. Like I said, run what you want.
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I think Cline is saying that backing heavy trailers into tight places is some of the hardest work we subject our trucks to. There is no air flow to cool engine, trans, ps cooler if you have one, ect. That's where the synthetic comes into play. The trans/ps takes a lot of abuse in that situation. I run mine on a high idle cool down for 4/5 minutes after subjecting it to that abuse, just like if you peaked a 30 minute hill/grade/peak climb and you stopped at the top. You would not just shut your engine down would you?
 
Originally Posted by BlakeB

My L5P definitely has a PS cooler, I looked it up by VIN to be sure. It's not a particularly large unit, but it has one none the less. I'm almost certain the LML has the same cooler, I'll look later and verify. These trucks are both cab and chassis trucks, so maybe that's why. It's GM part no. 84024888 If you wanna look into it. Thanks for the suggestions.


Is your truck a one ton? I think my Dually has a tiny cooler also, but I don't remember for sure.
 
Originally Posted by KneeGrinder
Originally Posted by BlakeB

My L5P definitely has a PS cooler, I looked it up by VIN to be sure. It's not a particularly large unit, but it has one none the less. I'm almost certain the LML has the same cooler, I'll look later and verify. These trucks are both cab and chassis trucks, so maybe that's why. It's GM part no. 84024888 If you wanna look into it. Thanks for the suggestions.


Is your truck a one ton? I think my Dually has a tiny cooler also, but I don't remember for sure.

Yes, it's a 1 ton. It's a crew cab dually with a flatbed. It's a tiny cooler for sure. It's basically just a tube with a bunch of tiny fins on it. I honestly can't see it dissipating much heat.

I just looked, both the LML and the L5P have what appears to be the same PS cooler.

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I was trying to locate what my 3500 calls for in the owners manual but no dice as of yet. If I recall Ram was calling for ATF+4. I had done one drain and fill last summer using Co-op ATF SL. Group 4, 7.7cSt, TES 295. So far so good. Albeit I did not choose this fluid for its hot properties but rather for use in the beautiful winter weather I look forward to each year.
 
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