what do you like in 9mm ammo ?
- Thread starter hardheaded
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Whatever is the cheapest brand I've heard of for range and target.
exception no Winchester white box.
usually ends up being 115, although sometimes 124 is same price.
Its creeping down to 20cents/round before tax a nice improvement from pandemic prices.
exception no Winchester white box.
usually ends up being 115, although sometimes 124 is same price.
Its creeping down to 20cents/round before tax a nice improvement from pandemic prices.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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Why ? Do you find they make your gun dirty faster than others? I have run across that with a few ammo makers before.
Federal ammo used to be very bad at fouling up my pistols and even my deer rifles. I have recently had one or two automatic jams with those Winchesters target shooting.
Dirty, I can live with.
Bad rounds - damaged cases right out of the box. A squib load. Malfunctions due to light loads.
Winchester white box had been my go to - but recent experience shows it to be Inconsistent, with poor quality control.
Lousy at any price.
I have an entire case of subsonic .300 BLK and about every 5th round was causing a malfunction in a suppressed rifle. That rifle is a Daniel Defense, and the suppressor means that it has plenty of gas. @Rand was there - My rifle had been flawless for years.
Right up until it met Winchester White Box.
I’ve seen the damaged cases and squib loads in WWB 9mm.
Fool me once, Winchester, I will never buy that ammo again.
4WD
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I have some WWB in .38 - should be Ok for a S&W wheeler ?
I think so - you can check it for quality as you load each one.
I caught the bad cases in the 9mm. And the squib.
I figured it was a run during their labor troubles, and I was willing to forgive it. But an entire case, $800 worth, of .300 BLK is all junk.
So, I am done with Winchester ammo. I cannot justify ever spending the money with them again.
4WD
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Thanks -
I’ll use it for can plinking - and then some Hornady on standby …
I'm not a fan I have had some bad white box mostly in .22lr and a few 9mm
and voted with my wallet. Plenty of fish in the sea for ammo.
Also still have some winchester white box m80 that was extremely dirty.
100 rounds clogged up my ruger SFAR and the deposits that I attacked with brass brush and solvent .. it was like brushing concrete.
this stuff:
I only have a few hundred rounds through the SFAR but all the other ammo left smudges by comparison.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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WoW. Sorry to hear about that. Me too. In my hunting days Winchester & their Super X was always my rifle and shotgun go to ammo. I have recently had some issues with a white box of Winchesters. My 9mm jammed a couple times the last time I used it target shooting. It surprised me because it was not only the first time, but when I looked over the gun it was pretty clean after 2-3 clips shot thru it.
I have a large supply of white box Winchester 9mm that I stocked up some years back. Hope all those boxes are not with issues. You know it is not cheap.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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A real shame. Winchester , at one time was considered top shelf, high quality. NO MORE.
Yeah, I had similar experiences with Winchester white box FMJs a few years ago. It was fine I guess but it seemed to shoot a little soft and the rounds themselves were pretty filthy with the brass covered in spotty schmutz. There's just no reason to buy WWB (or Remington for that matter) when something like Blazer Brass costs essentially the same.
And there's something to be said for presentation. Sellier & Bellot looks like polished gold compared to most other ammo and it's barely more expensive. It's loaded slightly hotter too.
And there's something to be said for presentation. Sellier & Bellot looks like polished gold compared to most other ammo and it's barely more expensive. It's loaded slightly hotter too.
I’ve been through several cases of S&B. It’s performed very well. And you’re right, it looks flawless when it comes out of the box.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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I will certainly be looking into the S&Bs you guys have discovered to be of a high quality.
I mean, range ammo is basically a commodity item. It should all be functionally identical(ish). But if one brand comes out of the box perfectly clean and works great every time, and a cost difference is pennies, that makes it an easy choice if it's sitting on the shelf next to other stuff that has a reputation for being dirty/quirky/whatever. Life's too short.
Exactly. I remember fighting through some Winchester .22 ammo thinking that it was bad enough to make a new shooter quit the hobby.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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Of course using too much bad / poor quality ammo and the next thing one knows is their gun is "Totaled!"
I roll my own, usually 147gr subs with VV N320 powder, but if I don't need to shoot subs then it doesn't make financial sense to load 115 ball.
as mentioned if can get 124 grain at same price, I go with that, and it is a better defensive round.
Never had issue with white box winchester, but some guns shoot anything without issue. Those are Keepers.
What is that agura brand, that seems pretty cost effective and works well for me.
I have a little .32 cal, ammo super hard to find and expensive, I reload that just to be able to have it, and it cost the same a buying a loaded box.
Ive considered reloading 9mm, but its not cost effective as just buying a loaded box for target shooting.
Never had issue with white box winchester, but some guns shoot anything without issue. Those are Keepers.
What is that agura brand, that seems pretty cost effective and works well for me.
I have a little .32 cal, ammo super hard to find and expensive, I reload that just to be able to have it, and it cost the same a buying a loaded box.
Ive considered reloading 9mm, but its not cost effective as just buying a loaded box for target shooting.
