What do you have in your emergency Food supplies?

Other than basic food stuffs around the house I have 6-8 gallons of filtered water in glass gallon jars. I dump and refill yearly. Something to do in January.
 
Canned food will last indefinitely. The contents may change in color, but it doesn't go bad. Their are some highly acidic exceptions along with caution using dented cans. You should always do the smell test when you open any can.

Absolutely agree with everything else you say!

From what I understand, canned food may be safe to eat indefinitely, but it loses it's nutritional value. Very old canned food may take away hunger pains, but it will not sustain life.

That said, from the training we have been given at the food pantry that I volunteer at, most canned food is still good for 2-3 years past the expiration date. It may not taste as good as it would if it were fresher, but it is safe to eat and still has nutritional value.

Don't drink milk or eat eggs. Have also cut out most pasta and rice so can't help much. Most Americans could stand to go a few days to a few weeks not eating.

While this may be true, it doesn't work that way. Just because someone is carrying an extra, say 30# on their waist, doesn't mean they can go without food until that 30# is gone.
 
I think about this differently. How did people live and survive in the 1930s? What is the point of hoarding when you are not going to have the soft or hard skills long term. ie. Farming, water, crafting.
 
My pantry is usually well stocked. I don't need anything extra for an emergency.
I never understand those who worry about this sort of thing who live in areas which are free from hurricanes and tornadoes. It's not the 1840's or 1950's.

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Rice and water. Half the world subsists on these two items. ;)

Yes, that may be true. But that means their digestive system is accustomed to surviving on rice and water, and probably fish too. But if those of us who normally don't eat this diet, suddenly tried to survive on a strict diet of rice and water, it wouldn't go well for us. Our digestive system would rebel, and you would probably lose more nutrition that you were getting.

The same is true for those that have bags full of hard wheat put away for an emergency, planning on grinding it and living on cooked cereal and whole wheat bread. Unless that is what they normally have in their diet, they are going to end up malnourished, because their body will reject it.

There is more advantage to regularly rotating what you put away for emergency food supply, than just keeping it fresh enough to sustain life. It also means that you are regularly eating what you plan on eating in an emergency.
 
I think about this differently. How did people live and survive in the 1930s? What is the point of hoarding when you are not going to have the soft or hard skills long term. ie. Farming, water, crafting.
That's a good point and I believe better to be prepared in all of these ways. I also believe there is no sense in worrying about these things. If there is some sinister world plan, not much can be done about it.
 
It's not the 1840's or 1950's.
Before supermarkets and the late 1800's, everyone was basically a prepper. It was the normal way of life, the skills were there and I think we lived in a higher trust society back then.

We are very much in a 1950's scenario now IMHO.

- Nuclear proliferation has gotten to the point where the Yakuza in Japan were recently caught making deals with Myanmar to procure plutonium from their defunct nuclear program. How many times has this happened before? When the cartels were buying weapons from the soviet weapons dealers years ago, they were offered suitcase nukes as well, thankfully, or supposedly, the cartels declined, but who knows. How much of this stuff is going around? Even without the high tech needed to achieve fission, no body needs access to these materials.

- YouTube has many stories of radioactive elements such as cobalt found in medial equipment and strontium used in poorly managed Russian RTGs (for powering remote lighthouses) falling into the hands of commoners. If you collect enough of these items, this could lead to a very dirty scenario and disruptive with an especially evil person. Heck, a boy scout was able to turn his shed into a superfund site with all of the radium he collected from old watches.

- It is possible that if Putin sees a massive failure of his Ukraine "operation" which can endanger his rule or result in losing Russian territory, him and Medvedev have stated nukes are on the table. At his age, does he care if there is mutually assured destruction? Most of the army could rebel and not launch ICBMs but it would only take a few "patriotic" and psychotic Tupolev bomber pilots to release a few nukes.

- Xi has been supposedly very erratic in his decision making. There are reports that he fires any messenger telling him bad news. Military, civic, and industrial leaders have disappeared permanently or have been sent to reeducation camps only to surface months later (CEO of Ali Baba). China has tons of nukes and socialism is basically a soulless religion without regard for human life, they are basically the Borg from Star Trek. I wouldn't put it past Xi and his brainwashed army to press the button if he sees no way out.

- Then you have Iran, North Korea, and maybe other forces that are unpredictable.


Overall I think we are in a worse situation now then since the cold war from my barely informed civilian perspective. We can only guess to what's going on and will probably never know the big picture. We can only hope these forces are working in the favor of US interests but prepping is a great way to protect yourself unless you see a very bright flash in the sky or sense a strong metallic taste in your mouth.
 
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Can you believe that I posted that I needed some "flower" to make gravy? FLOWER? I meant to say "FLOUR". Now I question my ability to even make biscuits and gravy. I wonder if possum is easier to procure than squirrel.
fingers work on their own.
 
Before supermarkets and the late 1800's, everyone was basically a prepper. It was the normal way of life, the skills were there and I think we lived in a higher trust society back then.

We are very much in a 1950's scenario now IMHO.

- Nuclear proliferation has gotten to the point where the Yakuza in Japan were recently caught making deals with Myanmar to procure plutonium from their defunct nuclear program. How many times has this happened before? When the cartels were buying weapons from the soviet weapons dealers years ago, they were offered suitcase nukes as well, thankfully, or supposedly, the cartels declined, but who knows. How much of this stuff is going around? Even without the high tech needed to achieve fission, no body needs access to these materials.

- YouTube has many stories of radioactive elements such as cobalt found in medial equipment and strontium used in poorly managed Russian RTGs (for powering remote lighthouses) falling into the hands of commoners. If you collect enough of these items, this could lead to a very dirty scenario and disruptive with an especially evil person. Heck, a boy scout was able to turn his shed into a superfund site with all of the radium he collected from old watches.

- It is possible that if Putin sees a massive failure of his Ukraine "operation" which can endanger his rule or result in losing Russian territory, him and Medvedev have stated nukes are on the table. At his age, does he care if there is mutually assured destruction? Most of the army could rebel and not launch ICBMs but it would only take a few "patriotic" and psychotic Tupolev bomber pilots to release a few nukes.

- Xi has been supposedly very erratic in his decision making. There are reports that he fires any messenger telling him bad news. Military, civic, and industrial leaders have disappeared permanently or have been sent to reeducation camps only to surface months later (CEO of Ali Baba). China has tons of nukes and socialism is basically a soulless religion without regard for human life, they are basically the Borg from Star Trek. I wouldn't put it past Xi and his brainwashed army to press the button if he sees no way out.

- Then you have Iran, North Korea, and maybe other forces that are unpredictable.


Overall I think we are in a worse situation now then since the cold war from my barely informed civilian perspective. We can only guess to what's going on and will probably never know the big picture. We can only hope these forces are working in the favor of US interests but prepping is a great way to protect yourself unless you see a very bright flash in the sky or sense a strong metallic taste in your mouth.
Back then it was primarily an agrarian society in the US at least so food storage was a way of life because you had to survive the winter. If it's 1950's then it's going to be lights out and the preppers will be the last ones standing but they will eventually succumb to poisoned air/water/soil/disease. Kinda hard to get hold of seed crops which you can continue to grow every season. You're going to need an animal to plow the fields because mechanized agriculture will no longer function. Good luck harvesting. Know how to dig a well? Marauders will be a problem. Ammo won't last long w/out someone to make more powder (which I know how to do btw). Even during the 1800's there were finished goods making their way into the back country making farmers lives easier.
 
Be prepared, the difference between what you will eat and what you won’t eat……..is about 24 hours! 🦮🐈🪳🪰🥾
 
Our major survival risk is "the big one".

Our house is +/- 75' above sea level and we have easy access to a hill at least 50' high so we're likely to survive a tsunami (assuming we survive the earthquake). We have to assume the power and water will be cut off and we could be on our own for as long as a couple of weeks.

We have enough food in the pantry and the freezer for a few weeks (as long as the house survives). We have an emergency supply kit in the shed with a tent, sleeping bags, camp cooking utensils and warm clothes. We also have a wind up radio. We have a couple dozen cans of food (which we replace every couple of years), peanut butter, pasta and rice. For sanitation we have bars of soap and toilet paper. For cooking we have a barbecue with a side burner with 2 full propane tanks. For washing water we have 2 large water barrels. For drinking water (which is the critical issue) we have about 20 X 4 liter containers (all refreshed annually).

I'm planning to screw plywood sheets to the pony wall in our crawl space (to better resist racking) so the house is more likely to stay intact. Our house is bolted to the foundation.
 
If it's 1950's then it's going to be lights out and the preppers will be the last ones standing but they will eventually succumb to poisoned air/water/soil/disease.
If the event is radiological, we’re pretty much out of luck. I don’t know how long the soil be unusable, maybe forever?
 
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