VW 7-spd DSG and excessive wear?

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I just read a 2018 post on Quora which said that this dry clutch DSG is burning thorough clutches. In order to reduce warranty claims VW allegedly designed a software fix which de-coupled the clutches whenever "over heat" conditions were detected. Needless to say this was causing a safety issue for the poster because the DSG would effectively shift into neutral when in traffic. Has anyone else experienced this?

https://www.quora.com/How-reliable-is-the-7-speed-dry-DSG-transmission-gearbox-as-of-2015-onwards
 
Interesting.

Sounds like a bit more programming is required. A good driver doesn't have this problem after all. Sounds like they are emulating a torque convertor, which is fine except in heavy traffic, where constant slippage would cause this.
 
I had over 150,000 miles on a Jetta with that transmission and although I replaced the Mechatronic, it was a very nice transmission. If you do a lot of stop and go driving, the clutches will naturally heat up and they do have a fixed lifespan like any other clutch.
 
The 7 speed DSG was just introduced to US market in 2019 GTI. Sheer guess the normal teething and software issues that got resolved and we get the updated version.

No one on this board except Europe would have any experience with matter.
 
The DSG in my 2017 A4 is a 7 speed but it is not a dry clutch. There is 2 fluids in it though. One fluid for the clutch and mechatronics and another gear oil for the gears.
 
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Dry clutch DSG in a vehicle that is used for commuting will spell disaster, as proven by Ford implementation. It's a clear cost cutting attempt from VW.

Originally Posted by madRiver
The 7 speed DSG was just introduced to US market in 2019 GTI. Sheer guess the normal teething and software issues that got resolved and we get the updated version.

No one on this board except Europe would have any experience with matter.



Ya. I was looking at the 2019 Jetta GLI and this gearbox is used as the "auto trans" option.
 
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Originally Posted by madRiver
The 7 speed DSG was just introduced to US market in 2019 GTI. Sheer guess the normal teething and software issues that got resolved and we get the updated version.

No one on this board except Europe would have any experience with matter.


My 2015 Jetta had the 7 speed DSG dry clutch. I'm in the U S of A and have plenty of experience with it.
 
And what was wrong with regular automatics again?
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Honda has a DCT with a torque converter, which is better, but still not as good as a regular automatic
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Originally Posted by atikovi
Originally Posted by madRiver
The 7 speed DSG was just introduced to US market in 2019 GTI. Sheer guess the normal teething and software issues that got resolved and we get the updated version.

No one on this board except Europe would have any experience with matter.


My 2015 Jetta had the 7 speed DSG dry clutch. I'm in the U S of A and have plenty of experience with it.


Which specific model I thought they only had 6 speed DSG on GLI and TDI but maybe lower trim had it?
 
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
And what was wrong with regular automatics again?
smirk2.gif


Honda has a DCT with a torque converter, which is better, but still not as good as a regular automatic
mad.gif





Which Honda vehicle has this DCT?
 
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
And what was wrong with regular automatics again?
smirk2.gif


Honda has a DCT with a torque converter, which is better, but still not as good as a regular automatic
mad.gif



A transmission without a torque converter spinning in fluid will get better MPG...allegedly. I rather take the mpg penalty and have a transmission that can withstand DFW traffic. But they do have CAFE numbers to achieve, so let the public be their guinea pigs.

I haven't heard as much bad about the VW transmission as I have the Ford. That thing really turned out to be a turd. I sold my '12 Focus at the first sign of trouble (at 3600 miles).
 
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Originally Posted by madRiver
Originally Posted by atikovi
Originally Posted by madRiver
The 7 speed DSG was just introduced to US market in 2019 GTI. Sheer guess the normal teething and software issues that got resolved and we get the updated version.

No one on this board except Europe would have any experience with matter.


My 2015 Jetta had the 7 speed DSG dry clutch. I'm in the U S of A and have plenty of experience with it.


Which specific model I thought they only had 6 speed DSG on GLI and TDI but maybe lower trim had it?


I had the Hybrid.
 
Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
And what was wrong with regular automatics again?
smirk2.gif


Honda has a DCT with a torque converter, which is better, but still not as good as a regular automatic
mad.gif





Which Honda vehicle has this DCT?


The ILX and TLX have it
 
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
And what was wrong with regular automatics again?
smirk2.gif


Honda has a DCT with a torque converter, which is better, but still not as good as a regular automatic
mad.gif





Which Honda vehicle has this DCT?


The ILX and TLX have it




Okay thanks. I don't follow the Acura lineup much.
 
Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Dry clutch DSG in a vehicle that is used for commuting will spell disaster, as proven by Ford implementation. It's a clear cost cutting attempt from VW.

Originally Posted by madRiver
The 7 speed DSG was just introduced to US market in 2019 GTI. Sheer guess the normal teething and software issues that got resolved and we get the updated version.

No one on this board except Europe would have any experience with matter.



Ya. I was looking at the 2019 Jetta GLI and this gearbox is used as the "auto trans" option.


You sure? They have a higher power output version that is wet clutch type . I am interested in 2019 GTI with 7DSG.
 
I'm pretty certain in the US the only dry clutch DSG was the now discontinued Jetta Hybrid. The wet clutch DSG's have a pretty good track record for reliability even exceeding that of the VW Aisin torque converter boxes.

The 40k fluid changes are not as expensive as they were when the DSG first came out dozens of years ago, the few dealers I shopped around they were $275-300.
 
a standard auto drain + fill DIY is under $50 + my choice a manual is even cheaper, you can have your fancy slush boxes or god forbid a CVT!
 
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