VW 508 Spec 0w20 Updates?
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I'm curious too. Not so much how it compares to Dexos, but what is the best choice out there? Here is what I've found so far. The OE oil Castrol Edge Pro OE LLIV FE 0W20. I posted a VOA: Castrol VOA.
Another is LiquiMoly Top Tec 6200 0W20.
And another is Mobil ESP x2 0W20.
Looking through msds they all appear to be mostly POA? The LiquiMoly has an impressive VI of 184, versus 175 for Mobil and 164 for Castrol. Not sure how the add packs differ.
Another is LiquiMoly Top Tec 6200 0W20.
And another is Mobil ESP x2 0W20.
Looking through msds they all appear to be mostly POA? The LiquiMoly has an impressive VI of 184, versus 175 for Mobil and 164 for Castrol. Not sure how the add packs differ.
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20 weights are evil you should run a 30 or thicker according to some on here, that's probably why you haven't gotten a response in 10 hours.
I would be interested to know the answer though.
More talk about 508.00 in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4672060/VW_508_Spec-0w20
I would be interested to know the answer though.
More talk about 508.00 in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4672060/VW_508_Spec-0w20
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Originally Posted by BrandonT
I'm curious too. Not so much how it compares to Dexos, but what is the best choice out there? Here is what I've found so far. The OE oil Castrol Edge Pro OE LLIV FE 0W20. I posted a VOA: Castrol VOA.
Another is LiquiMoly Top Tec 6200 0W20.
And another is Mobil ESP x2 0W20.
Looking through msds they all appear to be mostly POA? The LiquiMoly has an impressive VI of 184, versus 175 for Mobil and 164 for Castrol. Not sure how the add packs differ.
Yes very limited. I bet most VW dealers throw 0w40 in the 508 spec motors.
I notice the oil configs out there are giving the wrong specs.
If i get some real info I'll pass it on. Good luck!
I'm curious too. Not so much how it compares to Dexos, but what is the best choice out there? Here is what I've found so far. The OE oil Castrol Edge Pro OE LLIV FE 0W20. I posted a VOA: Castrol VOA.
Another is LiquiMoly Top Tec 6200 0W20.
And another is Mobil ESP x2 0W20.
Looking through msds they all appear to be mostly POA? The LiquiMoly has an impressive VI of 184, versus 175 for Mobil and 164 for Castrol. Not sure how the add packs differ.
Yes very limited. I bet most VW dealers throw 0w40 in the 508 spec motors.
I notice the oil configs out there are giving the wrong specs.
If i get some real info I'll pass it on. Good luck!
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Wonder if we'll ever get this?
https://www.valvoline.com/en-austra...ower-synthetic-engine-oil-xl-iv-c5-0w-20
https://www.valvoline.com/en-austra...ower-synthetic-engine-oil-xl-iv-c5-0w-20
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I can get this locally at wholesale....
https://m.facebook.com/221524777889...221524777889949/1395888287120253/?type=3
I can get this locally at wholesale....
https://m.facebook.com/221524777889...221524777889949/1395888287120253/?type=3
Liqui Moly is the only one you'd actually be able to buy in stores, so that would be my VW 508 choice
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Originally Posted by benjy
i would NEVER use any XXW20 in a turbo'd engine!!! not even Redline which i consider top of the heap!!! manufacturers can recommend what they want but I run what I WANT because its my $$$$$, if REQUIRE it must be supplied FREE!!!!!!
Yeah but how can you question VW engineering???? Like OMG
i would NEVER use any XXW20 in a turbo'd engine!!! not even Redline which i consider top of the heap!!! manufacturers can recommend what they want but I run what I WANT because its my $$$$$, if REQUIRE it must be supplied FREE!!!!!!
Yeah but how can you question VW engineering???? Like OMG
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Originally Posted by StevieC
20 weights are evil you should run a 30 or thicker according to some on here, that's probably why you haven't gotten a response in 10 hours.
I would be interested to know the answer though.
More talk about 508.00 in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4672060/VW_508_Spec-0w20
Of course you should. Same engines are designed first and foremost around 5W40 oils. They are still recommended to use ACEA C3 in EU and ACEA A3/B3 B4 in Russia, Ukraine and other former Soviet Republics as well as rest of the world.
Now, only reason why VW moved to 0W20 in the US is CAFE and aiming most of their line up to soccer moms.
20 weights are evil you should run a 30 or thicker according to some on here, that's probably why you haven't gotten a response in 10 hours.
I would be interested to know the answer though.
More talk about 508.00 in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4672060/VW_508_Spec-0w20
Of course you should. Same engines are designed first and foremost around 5W40 oils. They are still recommended to use ACEA C3 in EU and ACEA A3/B3 B4 in Russia, Ukraine and other former Soviet Republics as well as rest of the world.
Now, only reason why VW moved to 0W20 in the US is CAFE and aiming most of their line up to soccer moms.
Originally Posted by edyvw
Now, only reason why VW moved to 0W20 in the US is CAFE and aiming most of their line up to soccer moms.
Lots of 0w20's for sale in Germany with approvals from BMW, Chrysler, Ford, GM, Mercedes & VW/Audi here:
https://www.ato24.de/en/car-0w-20.html
No CAFE but lots of cafe's.
Now, only reason why VW moved to 0W20 in the US is CAFE and aiming most of their line up to soccer moms.
Lots of 0w20's for sale in Germany with approvals from BMW, Chrysler, Ford, GM, Mercedes & VW/Audi here:
https://www.ato24.de/en/car-0w-20.html
No CAFE but lots of cafe's.
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Funny thing going on here.
In the not so long ago past if you even suggested not going by the manual the forum police
here would beat you to death.
It seems many turbo engines are going 0w20
I find the 508 spec interesting but also see it as just an attempt to make VW more $$$$o
I'd use my own top tier oil and forgo the 508 nonsense unless I see that it was heavily enforced
I suspect VW may rewrite their manuals
In the not so long ago past if you even suggested not going by the manual the forum police
here would beat you to death.
It seems many turbo engines are going 0w20
I find the 508 spec interesting but also see it as just an attempt to make VW more $$$$o
I'd use my own top tier oil and forgo the 508 nonsense unless I see that it was heavily enforced
I suspect VW may rewrite their manuals
If the add-pack and base oils in the 20wt are up to the task there is nothing to fear but apparently I'm really wrong on this and awaiting sentencing by the forum police. Funny thing was it was the same deal when people were pushing 20w50's and 30's were the crime and I was charged then too over a decade ago.
I apologize in advance for my crimes.
I apologize in advance for my crimes.
Originally Posted by StevieC
If the add-pack and base oils in the 20wt are up to the task there is nothing to fear but apparently I'm really wrong on this and awaiting sentencing by the forum police. Funny thing was it was the same deal when people were pushing 20w50's and 30's were the crime and I was charged then too over a decade ago.
I apologize in advance for my crimes.
I thought you said many times you were going to quit this thread?
I agree with you w20's are fine. 99% of the people don't know or don't care. 99% of those on BITOG and myself are not one of those. My 2005 Ranger and 1993 F150 were back-spec'd to 5w-20. I'm one that keeps vehicles forever. Both trucks run smoother, are quieter and get better MPG on w30. That's just 2 examples out of 60 million. I lose.
So there. Go away...
If the add-pack and base oils in the 20wt are up to the task there is nothing to fear but apparently I'm really wrong on this and awaiting sentencing by the forum police. Funny thing was it was the same deal when people were pushing 20w50's and 30's were the crime and I was charged then too over a decade ago.
I apologize in advance for my crimes.
I thought you said many times you were going to quit this thread?
I agree with you w20's are fine. 99% of the people don't know or don't care. 99% of those on BITOG and myself are not one of those. My 2005 Ranger and 1993 F150 were back-spec'd to 5w-20. I'm one that keeps vehicles forever. Both trucks run smoother, are quieter and get better MPG on w30. That's just 2 examples out of 60 million. I lose.
So there. Go away...
Not this thread the other... I love how it's a board of people that say they need science and facts to back things up but then they jump on something and won't let it go even though there is real world cases staring them in the face that contradict what they are saying. Case and point is the 20w50 versus 30wt's now 20wt versus 30wt's. Or the high iron in M1 UOA's which everyone was panicking about which meant nothing. Before Fram was evil and now TG/XG are the best thing since sliced bread. Not all Purolators tear but they are "Off the list". I guess we will just wait ANOTHER decade for this to change even though we have had 20wt's for over a decade now without mass failures causing ALL OE's to back peddle. Heck we even have high milers here that have done it on 20wt's but I guess that's not as good as some paper from an official source. WHATEVER. Not trying to spill over to this thread. Just explaining to answer your question.
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