used AUTO-RX now have lifter clatterve

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I am wondering, why is it that auto-rx is the only oil additive associated with any type of noises.

Why is it that auto-rx is the only oil additive that is making excuses.

Why is it that auto-rx claims that varnish is a cosmetic issue, is that because it cannot remove varnish.

Why is it that auto-rx is the most EXPENSIVE oil additive and it shows the least results.

Why is it that auto-rx thanks people for buying there product and then when they do not get results they attack the person that buys there product.

Why is it that auto-rx only has 3rd party tests that cannot be verified.

Why is it that auto-rx is the only oil additive on this site that has to give FREE product to get favorable testimony so others will sheel out money for the product.

Why is it that auto-rx is no longer a sponsor on this board, is it because the product does not work or maybe we just do not know what the product can really do.

Why is it that there are 35 auto-rx threads that are LOCKED ON THIS board.

Why is it that this product is more of a mystery than that other oil additive that auto-rx and its SHILLS claim that does not work.

Why are all of the auto-rx moderators on there forum using another oil additive during the Rinse Phase of the auto-rx application.

Why are there about 550 members on this forum who have tried auto-rx not coming to there defense.

Out of these 550 members who have tried auto-rx I am willing to bet that maybe 1% which is about 5 members will stand up for the product.

I am calling all auto-rx users who have seen results to please report back, and I mean members who are 100% happy with auto-rx.

I have talked with many well respected members who have told me that auto-rx does not work and that it is an OVERPRICED UNDERPERFORMER.

All of us on this board are tired of the SMOKING MIRRORS, it is now time for auto-rx to show us the results instead of excuses.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Trav
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This morning I tore into an engine that has suffered every miracle in a bottle there is to fix a lifter noise and clean up an engine by both independent shops and dealers alike. Everyone knew it was caused by the solvents and agents breaking loose chunks of stuff and pumping them around the oil system. The engine is a Honda Civic and the noise was from a damaged valve adjustment screw and lock nut assembly


How anything in a bottle cure mechanical lifter/lash adjuster noise is beyond me.
I think everyone in this thread is on the same sheet of music on this one,this is about hydraulic units only.

When a hydraulic lifter/lash adjuster is ticking its very possible that it is varnish or dirt related.
IMO it is fair advice to try mechanic in a can for a short time like a single OCI before tearing into the engine in these cases given the high cost of labor to even get at these parts on some engines.


I agree, at $100 or higher an hour, at least around here anything is worth a shot before tearing into an engine. Worn damaged parts need to be replaced, I think we all agree with that. Suggesting a cleaning product first is a good idea IMO.

I'm still waiting on an explaination of how a part that was not getting oil due to dirt/sludge suddenly makes noise when it is cleaned up and getting proper lubrication. Once I totally understand that I can then say I learned something new.


If you read my post (up a few) I think I provide a pretty logical explanation.
 
Originally Posted By: c3po
I am wondering, why is it that auto-rx is the only oil additive associated with any type of noises.

Why is it that auto-rx is the only oil additive that is making excuses.

Why is it that auto-rx claims that varnish is a cosmetic issue, is that because it cannot remove varnish.

Why is it that auto-rx is the most EXPENSIVE oil additive and it shows the least results.

Why is it that auto-rx thanks people for buying there product and then when they do not get results they attack the person that buys there product.

Why is it that auto-rx only has 3rd party tests that cannot be verified.

Why is it that auto-rx is the only oil additive on this site that has to give FREE product to get favorable testimony so others will sheel out money for the product.

Why is it that auto-rx is no longer a sponsor on this board, is it because the product does not work or maybe we just do not know what the product can really do.

Why is it that there are 35 auto-rx threads that are LOCKED ON THIS board.

Why is it that this product is more of a mystery than that other oil additive that auto-rx and its SHILLS claim that does not work.

Why are all of the auto-rx moderators on there forum using another oil additive during the Rinse Phase of the auto-rx application.

Why are there about 550 members on this forum who have tried auto-rx not coming to there defense.

Out of these 550 members who have tried auto-rx I am willing to bet that maybe 1% which is about 5 members will stand up for the product.

I am calling all auto-rx users who have seen results to please report back, and I mean members who are 100% happy with auto-rx.

I have talked with many well respected members who have told me that auto-rx does not work and that it is an OVERPRICED UNDERPERFORMER.

All of us on this board are tired of the SMOKING MIRRORS, it is now time for auto-rx to show us the results instead of excuses.


I will gladly come to ARX defense. Although it is pricey, it has done everything I expected it to. My engine is cleaner and quieter already, and I am still only half way through the rinse phase. My lifter noise is gone, and my oil consumption is almost non existent.
I am planning to post some pics in the next month or so of the results. under valve cover pics and under timing cover.
 
Originally Posted By: cronk
I will gladly come to ARX defense.


Thanks cronk, hopefully we will here from more satisfied auto-rx users.

It will be interesting to see how many happy auto-rx users come to there defense of this product.
 
Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: cronk
I will gladly come to ARX defense.


Thanks cronk, hopefully we will here from more satisfied auto-rx users.

It will be interesting to see how many happy auto-rx users come to there defense of this product.


It performed to my satisfaction in two vehicles. 90%+ removal of a one lifter tick and power increase in a BMW M52. 90%+ decrease in common BMW M62TU VANOS rattle. Neither engine had any sludge or consumption before or after. No new noises, leaks or other problems cropped up during the treatments.
 
c3po your questions are fair enough and bring some good points to light.I am with the one time users that believe arx is an "OVERPRICED UNDERPERFORMER".
It may have some effects on some things like rings and seals over time,it may even have some deposit cleaning abilities given enough time (read very long time and a lot of money) but for engine sludge and varnish removal it performs less than any other product i have used,a $4 bottle of MMO easily out performs this product in cleaning abilities.

At over $25 a bottle and multiple application and the promotion of the so called maintenance dose this product quickly approaches $75 or more.
 
It slowed a leak for me, only for it to return in very short order. As far as I can tell it is the only product most noted for engine noises while it cleans. Although clavin1 took a shot at an explanation, I then ask why doesn't Kreen or MMO have pages of noise complaints here? They not only clean sludge but they clean varnish too, faster, easier, and cheaper. My feeling is the noise is caused from A-Rx's inability to liquify sludge as well as the other two, and parts that need oil are starving for it at times during the cleaning process, because they are plugged up. When they unplug themselves the noise stops, which makes a lot more sense to me. c3po brings up some valid points. JMO

I wonder if more complaints of noise are occuring during winter vs summer?
 
I've been here long enough to witness the tide turn against ARx. I remember when it seemed everyone was a fan. then I remember when the owner of ARX was basically forced to stop posting.
I really don't get why people without a vested interest take the time to bash a product.
as someone stated, no bottle of stuff can fix every issue, but ARX HAS worked for MANY people.
but unhappy people are louder than satisfied customers.

me? I used it one one car, a high mileage '96 Mazda MPV. I had lifter tick and leaking issues. throughout the cleaning phase the noises got weird (the bad noise was from a timing belt about to fail. it did ).
but once I finished the clean, the rinse phase was fantastic. my wife was unaware of the whole ARX cycle I was doing, so I appreciated it when she came home one day and expressed the improvement in power and no noise.
so, for me, it DID work.

and c3po, the expression is smoke AND mirrors, NOT SMOKING MIRRORS. get your metaphors correct.
 
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then I remember when the owner of ARX was basically forced to stop posting.
I really don't get why people without a vested interest take the time to bash a product.


The man would come unglued and was attacking people,calling them liars by claiming they didn't buy the product or didn't follow directions if they complained.He forced himself to stop posting!

Between me and my brother we have more than a few hundred bucks invested in a product that didn't work well at all,i would say we have a vested interest and a darn good reason to inform others that maybe thinking about spending their hard earned money on this product.

Many others spent a lot of money on this stuff without getting the results promised.
Exposing a product with doubtful abilities is far from bashing it.
 
One of the reasons I like this board is to learn about products that work and don't work. I also bought into A-Rx only to be disappointed as well. People should read these threads gather info and make informed decisions based on their findings. It can be real easy to get swayed one way or the other, I say spend time and read before making the investment.

The A-Rx pros and cons are clearly listed, had I known what I know about A-Rx now when I bought it I would have stayed clear and continued doing what worked for me for decades. I bought into hype at the height of the products run here. It worked for some, flopped for others. Anyone reading should use these threads to make an informed decision for themselves, that's all.
 
"The man would come unglued and was attacking people,calling them liars by claiming they didn't buy the product or didn't follow directions if they complained."

He could be even nastier off site!
While at the same time claiming the product had a satisfaction guarantee.
For me, a good enough reason alone recommend the product.

I think they say in the retail business, For every customer that complains, another Ten just walk out the door, without saying a word, never to come back.

I wonder if that holds true with Arx on this site?
 
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ARX has worked for me in both the typical clean/rinse usage on older vehicles and the maintenance dose in newer vehicles.
 
Auto-Rx has worked great for me. I've also used it in industrial applications and it worked just fine there, too.

Is c3po inspired to save us all? I've been following some of these threads and there appears to be a complete focus on liquid solutions and diagnosis by stand off observation. The idea of doing lab analysis is an important tool if it's part of a pattern of analysis but even that is lacking in this thread. And as far as diagnosis by noise, that must be followed up with some kind of physical analysis to confirm the problem, which I don't see here.

If you apply Auto-Rx to a problem that you can only suspect then the results might be a bit uncertain. To then apply those results to the value of Auto-Rx is a path to nowhere.

I'm sure that c3po has the best of intentions but if he knows that Auto-Rx does not work maybe he can cite a situation that he has investigated and show us what lead him to that conclusion. And maybe he could help us by sharing with us his solution to the problem. I for one would like to know where I have gone wrong because when I've applied Auto-Rx to a sludge problem, especially involving oil control rings I've had success. So now that I've posted my comment I'll put on my call out jacket and wait for the flames for which BITOG has produced in the past. Thank you for your help.
 
OneEyeJack- It worked for you, that's fine, others it didn't work for, and alternate products gave them better results. Trav comes to mind here since he is in fact an ASE L1,L2,Master. To say the many knows his way around an engine would be an understatement. His testimony means more to me than any paid for test results or company literature.

All I say is let people use these threads to help come to their own conclusions about what product to grab to clean up an engine, that's all. You, badtlc, and a few others had positive results, others not so positive. Off the top of my head, I think there are more people unhappy then happy with the product, but I don't have the time nor desire to prove it. At least members have something to go by. A few people like Trav who weren't happy were confronted when they tried to collect on the Satisfaction Guarantee, and shared that info with us as well. For me this board is about helping one another with their vehicles, and sharing, both good and bad. Hopefully armed with that info a person can make a better decision. JMO
 
Everyone who didn't like the way AutoRX "ruled" the message board a few years ago should take a step back and consider what happens in virtually every AutoRX related thread nowadays. The pendulum has swung and the site is no better off for it, just different.

jeff
 
Originally Posted By: greenjp
Everyone who didn't like the way AutoRX "ruled" the message board a few years ago should take a step back and consider what happens in virtually every AutoRX related thread nowadays. The pendulum has swung and the site is no better off for it, just different.

jeff


True to a point, and a flip side. I see it like this, the only difference now is people are stating their experiences with the product good or bad, and the bad experiences are not getting harpooned for it now. It is fairly safe now to discuss alternate products that clean engines w/o being harassed. Products like Kreen, MMO, Amsoil's flush etc are not getting squashed, and members are getting more of an education, and other choices to clean engines.
 
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
I'm sure that c3po has the best of intentions but if he knows that Auto-Rx does not work maybe he can cite a situation that he has investigated and show us what lead him to that conclusion. And maybe he could help us by sharing with us his solution to the problem.


If anyone is interested then you can PM me. I have promised all of the Auto-Rx Moderators that I would never post what I know on the Open Forum.

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I for one would like to know where I have gone wrong because when I've applied Auto-Rx to a sludge problem, especially involving oil control rings I've had success. So now that I've posted my comment I'll put on my call out jacket and wait for the flames for which BITOG has produced in the past. Thank you for your help.


Auto-Rx is working for you, lets not forget that this product has been a failure for most users. So far we have 5 Members who are happy with auto-rx. About 550 Bitog members have used auto-rx, it will be interesting to see how many satisfied auto-rx users participate in this thread.
 
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack

c3po, are your numbers for BITOG members.


My numbers are for BITOG members.

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Are there people that use Auto-Rx that are not members and may have never heard of BITOG?


Yes there are some auto-rx users who are not members on BITOG.
 
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