I had read during other discussions of MMO, of people using MMO during the rinse phase, of an ARX treatment. What was the feedback reported? Improvement of standard rinse phase, or no difference.
Use of MMO during an ARX rinse phase
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I dunno
..but I don't really see why not. Be one of the first and report your results (or lack of notice - whatever)
Originally Posted By: c3po
I ended up putting MMO in my Marauder 500 miles before my oil change during the Rinse Phase, the oil that was drained did come out darker.
I used Motorcraft 5W-20 for the Rinse Phase, the car seemed to like this oil.
I am contemplating using a half a quart of MMO along with 4 quarts of dino 5w30 in the rinse phase. We know that Auto-RX reccommends dino oil (including gr.3 syn) for the rinse phase so the question is whether anything in MMO would act differently and inhibit the A-RX from doing its job? I doubt it.
PS: I have 4 qts. of older SJ QS dino 5w30 that I'm using. If I had 5 qts. I wouldn't be using the MMO.
I ended up putting MMO in my Marauder 500 miles before my oil change during the Rinse Phase, the oil that was drained did come out darker.
I used Motorcraft 5W-20 for the Rinse Phase, the car seemed to like this oil.
I am contemplating using a half a quart of MMO along with 4 quarts of dino 5w30 in the rinse phase. We know that Auto-RX reccommends dino oil (including gr.3 syn) for the rinse phase so the question is whether anything in MMO would act differently and inhibit the A-RX from doing its job? I doubt it.
PS: I have 4 qts. of older SJ QS dino 5w30 that I'm using. If I had 5 qts. I wouldn't be using the MMO.
MMO does contain a bit of ester, but it shouldn't be enough to adversely affect what Auto RX does.
And if you have a problem (seals) who will you turn to?
Originally Posted By: sprintman
And if you have a problem (seals) who will you turn to?
Are you saying that using MMO in the rinse phase could cause a seal problem?
I ask because if there is any doubt I'll use a half a quart of different dino.
And if you have a problem (seals) who will you turn to?
Are you saying that using MMO in the rinse phase could cause a seal problem?
I ask because if there is any doubt I'll use a half a quart of different dino.
Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: sprintman
And if you have a problem (seals) who will you turn to?
Are you saying that using MMO in the rinse phase could cause a seal problem?
I ask because if there is any doubt I'll use a half a quart of different dino.
How would he know, has he used MMO. I have had no seal problems while using MMO.
Originally Posted By: sprintman
And if you have a problem (seals) who will you turn to?
Are you saying that using MMO in the rinse phase could cause a seal problem?
I ask because if there is any doubt I'll use a half a quart of different dino.
How would he know, has he used MMO. I have had no seal problems while using MMO.
You need to study what RX does during cleaning and what the rinse does (think seals).
I would not make a habit of it but it should not hurt it in the rinse phase. I do know that frank commented once about ARX gobbling up solvents when placed in the crank cse with ARX thuse nullifying the effect of the solvent or ARX but that was a conversation about the clean phase not the rinse phase. Since most of the ARX would in theory drain out with the clean phase oil I do not see where the MMO would react with it since the ARX would have already done it's job of softening or liguifing most of the sludge.If you have not already done so I would not do it on purpose! I would just follow the directions and save the MMO for another OCI!
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RX softens the seals. Now think about what the rinse does?
ARx gobbles up solvents?
ARX gobbles up solvents? Yes it does...Think of the old Pacman video game, and you get the idea.
Originally Posted By: nucleardawg
ARX gobbles up solvents? Yes it does...Think of the old Pacman video game, and you get the idea.
From my observation it is the otherway around, the stronger oil additives will cancel arx out, I have seen it when I have changed my oil.
ARX gobbles up solvents? Yes it does...Think of the old Pacman video game, and you get the idea.
From my observation it is the otherway around, the stronger oil additives will cancel arx out, I have seen it when I have changed my oil.
It was an attempt at humor...nothing more. I could see a solvent based additive neutralizing or cleaning out the ARX as well.
Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: nucleardawg
ARX gobbles up solvents? Yes it does...Think of the old Pacman video game, and you get the idea.
From my observation it is the otherway around, the stronger oil additives will cancel arx out, I have seen it when I have changed my oil.
How did you determine this?
Originally Posted By: nucleardawg
ARX gobbles up solvents? Yes it does...Think of the old Pacman video game, and you get the idea.
From my observation it is the otherway around, the stronger oil additives will cancel arx out, I have seen it when I have changed my oil.
How did you determine this?
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: nucleardawg
ARX gobbles up solvents? Yes it does...Think of the old Pacman video game, and you get the idea.
From my observation it is the otherway around, the stronger oil additives will cancel arx out, I have seen it when I have changed my oil.
How did you determine this?
When I drained my oil I could see some brown bubbly stuff that looked like arx, it definetly was not oil.
Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: nucleardawg
ARX gobbles up solvents? Yes it does...Think of the old Pacman video game, and you get the idea.
From my observation it is the otherway around, the stronger oil additives will cancel arx out, I have seen it when I have changed my oil.
How did you determine this?
When I drained my oil I could see some brown bubbly stuff that looked like arx, it definetly was not oil.
I would like to add since we are discussing the rinse phase here. I am assuming ARX at this point has done it's job I have wanted, which is to slowly soften or liquify any sludge or deposits. Now in the rinse phase wouldn't a gentle cleaner like MMO possibly enhance the ARX's effectiveness over say a regular oil?
Originally Posted By: nucleardawg
I would like to add since we are discussing the rinse phase here. I am assuming ARX at this point has done it's job I have wanted, which is to slowly soften or liquify any sludge or deposits. Now in the rinse phase wouldn't a gentle cleaner like MMO possibly enhance the ARX's effectiveness over say a regular oil?
I agree with your statement and I think that a gentle cleaner like MMO would help arx's effectiveness.
I would like to add since we are discussing the rinse phase here. I am assuming ARX at this point has done it's job I have wanted, which is to slowly soften or liquify any sludge or deposits. Now in the rinse phase wouldn't a gentle cleaner like MMO possibly enhance the ARX's effectiveness over say a regular oil?
I agree with your statement and I think that a gentle cleaner like MMO would help arx's effectiveness.
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