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Sounds like they added the oil and forgot to drain the old stuff out first.



Thats what i think happened. Or, there were two techs working on my car & they both put oil in the sump.
joe




Either way its just plain stupid what they did.
 
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what are some of the problems of over filling an engine w/ oil? This is the 2.4 vtec engine w/ 4900 miles on it.
JOE



Premature catalytic converter failure comes to mind if the excess oil got into the exhaust. Thankfully, the cat falls under the extended emissions warranty, so you should be covered up to about 80k miles if anything happens, but after that...
 
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Was it RICK CASE or Coral Springs Honda ??

9 quarts of oil is too much for two Honda Civics.
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I'd go back to the Stealership and talk to every manager that you can corner. Get something in writing. Tell them you could not drive the car to them, and you HAD to drain/fill the oil just to get going again.
There should be no permanent damage, but who knows?
Maybe a seal or gasket was compromised, or whatever.



Plan on being on the phone frist thing monday morning , should be ineresting. Can't wait to see the spin they put on this!
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But why the engine wouldn't rev, something is wrong.




Could be hydrolock (oil in the cylinder(s) preventing compression). I'd run a compression test on this engine and check tailpipe emissions just to be sure.
 
I'm not sure that it would help, but I think I would send a certified letter to the dealership summarizing what happened. You might want to have an oil sample analyzed too.
 
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Because the crankshaft was submersed in oil. Go try to run in 5 feet of water.




That's correct; nicely stated.
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Exactly!!! The engine was bogged down by all the oil! It's running fine today w/ a slite oder coming from the exhust.That concerns me alittle, Maybe it will just burn it off.
 
Talk to the manager telling him exactly what happen and what you had to do. Tell him your concern of the possible damage one of his techs could have done. Hope they'll do something for you.
 
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Because the crankshaft was submersed in oil. Go try to run in 5 feet of water.




That's correct; nicely stated.
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Exactly!!! The engine was bogged down by all the oil! It's running fine today w/ a slite oder coming from the exhust.That concerns me alittle, Maybe it will just burn it off.



It may be running fine, but I would still try to get an extended warranty.
 
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Talk to the manager telling him exactly what happen and what you had to do. Tell him your concern of the possible damage one of his techs could have done. Hope they'll do something for you.



Took the car back to the dealer this afternoon, the service manager refunded my money & the took my car in & went over it. They scanded for any codes, pulled the intake system to check for oil sucked up buy the vacume. They brought me in the shop to witness ever thing they did & in the end Apologised for over filling the sump & any inconvince this caused me, the tech who worked on my car was the best, very professonial answered all my ?'s looking me striaght in the eye & personaly apologised!
joe
 
Actually, the crank doesn't mind being submerged, but the pistons can't go up and down with all that oil - there is a hydrolock situation.
 
Actually, the crank doesn't mind being submerged, but the pistons can't go up and down with all that oil - there is a hydrolock situation.
 
Actually, the crank doesn't mind being submerged, but the pistons can't go up and down with all that oil - there is a hydrolock situation.
 
At least you got that and there is now documentation to that extent. I'd call it good and keep and eye or nose on it. With ah engine that new, I'd keep a sharp eye on the head gaskets and engine seals. If your oil pressure idiot light didn't go off, I think you'd be alright. Those things go off when the pressure is too low or too high. It would have shown up on the computer scan. Lesson learned......watch everybody.
 
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At least you got that and there is now documentation to that extent. I'd call it good and keep and eye or nose on it. With ah engine that new, I'd keep a sharp eye on the head gaskets and engine seals. If your oil pressure idiot light didn't go off, I think you'd be alright. Those things go off when the pressure is too low or too high. It would have shown up on the computer scan. Lesson learned......watch everybody.



I feel much better today car is running fine! No SES light went off and it never did smoke so i don't think any oil got past the rings. The tech said that as tight as those rings are that no oil got past, if it had it would have definetly smoked!Going to keep a close eye on everything for now see if it consumes an oil in this OCI.I learned a lesson here never take it for granted that someone else did it right, always double check there work , and i will never leave that dealership w/out the service writer pulling the dipstick & checking it w/ me there!
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It has already been stated that we are all human and mistakes will happen. This is business though, it is not personal. You spent a lot of money on your new Honda and it is reasonable to expect professional service from a dealership mechanic. I would make sure that you obtain a signed document stating that the dealership will be responsible for any engine issues going forward. An extended warranty was mentioned in a few of the posts on this thread. I would expect for the dealer to provide a warranty extension at a minimum. I would also notify Honda of America about what happened. You want to have your documentation in order and making Honda aware of what happened is not at all vindictive. What if your dealership closes? Honda of America wants people to feel comfortable using dealership service centers and they should bend over backwards to put your mind at east.

On a side note, I once bought a new 1998 CR-V for my wife. Since the first oil change was free, I took it back to the dealership at ~4,500 miles. When I got home, I raised the hod and found that the technician that had worked on my wife's CR-V had spill oil all over the valve cover. To make matters worse the level on the dipstick was ~3/4" above the full mark. I immediately took it back and told them I was not at all happy. This was no way to treat a brand new $20,000 vehicle. They made it right, but I quickly learned my lesson and have performed every oil and ATF drain/fill since that day. I just don't care to roll the dice and hope that some guy making about $8.50/hour will do a proper job.
 
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