UFO's on the Moon

[chiks]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
I used to be a big conspiracy guy. Until I internalized a very simple concept. If you believe in conspiracies, you have to logically conclude they work all ways. Think about it...


Hey antiqueshell, check this out and think about my statement above. If you're that into conspiracies, haven't you read up on Project Blue Beam? Or Operation Majestic 12 as viewed by William Cooper? Some conspiracy researchers believe the UFO movement over the last century has been a deliberate government psy op disinformation campaign!

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/10/contactees-or-secret-agents/



In other words, create enough noise to drown the real aliens/ufos?

 

[morris]

well it looks to me like the aliens didnt clam the moon.

 

[simple_gifts]

Odd only a month after sending a probe to investigate if there were ever life on another planet(mars), there is general ridicule that someone else, somewhere, might have done the same.

We are limited by our understanding of the world; once Europeans could not traverse the oceans and when they did, they discovered people who looked a bit different.

There is no reason the inability to traverse interstellar space maybe be better understood and mastered in the future.

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT


Hey antiqueshell, check this out and think about my statement above. If you're that into conspiracies, haven't you read up on Project Blue Beam? Or Operation Majestic 12 as viewed by William Cooper? Some conspiracy researchers believe the UFO movement over the last century has been a deliberate government psy op disinformation campaign!

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/10/contactees-or-secret-agents/



I'm fascinated to see that you are not
saying the phrase "conspiracy theory" because in fact conspiracies happen often.

Even many of our founding fathers commented on them.

Thomas Jefferson and James Madison to name a few.

The fact is that the military/ government, ect. keeps secrets fits the definition a "conspiracy".

NASA and JPL often censor numerous data like photos and video received from space.

Information is power. That is why these elites keep it to themselves.

That being said, I don't know what these UFOs might be or where they are from, some of this is probably our own technology. Yes, the military said they liked being able to hide advanced tech behind the extraterrestrial issue.

There are still instances where our military seems to admit they have had encounters with unknown craft, including air force pilots. These guys usually don't lie or make up stories because it can end their job.

 

[Drew99GT]

I'm fascinated you think I'm a paid government shill.

Are you one of the guys who believes the government creates weather? Not cloud seeding or any legitimate things like that, but the stuff about Nexrad radar creating severe storms and hurricanes? Is everything a conspiracy?

 

[simple_gifts]

Quote:

Is everything a conspiracy?


No, just the important stuff. I read that on BITOG

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell


There are still instances where our military seems to admit they have had encounters with unknown craft, including air force pilots. These guys usually don't lie or make up stories because it can end their job.


They could be disinfo agents though.

 

[antiqueshell]

Let's first get you to admit that conspiracies happen all the time.

How about the conspiracy to murder CIA agent
Frank Olson, by....the CIA. ???

Or other CIA conspiracies like the ouster and murder of Argentinian president Salvador Allende?

 

[antiqueshell]

After all if the elite leaders lie about one thing surely it makes sense that they lie about almost everything. And oh, do they lie and deceive.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
You guys are in denial. NASA and JPL occasionally miss redacting photos from the Moon, space, various manned space flight where even the astronauts state comments about UFOs.

You are NOT being given the FULL truth and the facts by those who have it access.

And of course like good little drones you act like little infants when something completely alien to your knowledge is discussed. The public fool system has trained you well to serve those in power.



NASA own footage unaltered.



I don't doubt that lots of info is altered and kept from us. But to say a video like this is unaltered is funny. That video is obnoxious. Why not make one with actual commentary of the theory of what the person thinks they see, and why?

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: dwcopple
Originally Posted By: Cristobal
But if our science ever makes a decent form of space travel, people could make a new world of our own.
Read about the "Philadelphia Experiment". We tried, but failed, and pulled the plug on the entire thing, or did we???


You mean a degaussing experiment at the old shipyard?

 

[antiqueshell]

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Let's first get you to admit that conspiracies happen all the time.



The Gulf of Tonkin? Yup, it happened. Operation Northwoods? I agree, conspiracy. Operation midnight climax? Yup. Air America? Yup. CIA drug running? Yup. I agree, some "conspiracies", if you want to call them that, are real. What does that have to do with UFO/alien videos on Youtube???

See, not all "conspiracies" are real. In fact, most of the ones in the mainstream today are simply laughable. like chemtrails, or the non sense that the HAARP array in Alaska can create hurricanes and earthquakes! You believe every single conspiracy fable out there? Especially UFO and aliens on the moon videos on Youtube?

 

[dwcopple]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: dwcopple
Originally Posted By: Cristobal
But if our science ever makes a decent form of space travel, people could make a new world of our own.
Read about the "Philadelphia Experiment". We tried, but failed, and pulled the plug on the entire thing, or did we???


You mean a degaussing experiment at the old shipyard?
Degaussing, sure, more like accidental teleportation that really screwed up some of the sailors on board.

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Let's first get you to admit that conspiracies happen all the time.



The Gulf of Tonkin? Yup, it happened. Operation Northwoods? I agree, conspiracy. Operation midnight climax? Yup. Air America? Yup. CIA drug running? Yup. I agree, some "conspiracies", if you want to call them that, are real. What does that have to do with UFO/alien videos on Youtube???

See, not all "conspiracies" are real. In fact, most of the ones in the mainstream today are simply laughable. like chemtrails, or the non sense that the HAARP array in Alaska can create hurricanes and earthquakes! You believe every single conspiracy fable out there? Especially UFO and aliens on the moon videos on Youtube?


You keep misrepresenting my words. I never said that I believe every conspiracy THEORY out there.

Are there numerous actual "conspiracies" in the world? You bet.

The fact is that NASA and JPL (both under the direction of the DoD) actually DO censor a LOT of photo, video, and audio material from space. Now why would they do that? That seems to clearly be a "conspiracy". Why they would be doing this? I'm not sure, but they could stop the "theorizing" by no longer keeping secrets, couldn't they?

The bottom line is when our leaders keep secrets to this degree it leads to a lack of trust, and is also a betrayal of "We The People".

The main reason why such secrets are kept is to allow a tiny few to control the rest of society.

That being said, even humanities most outstanding scientists know very little about our universe and the (quantum) physics behind it.

There is NO way you can rule out intelligent life being elsewhere, including in different dimensions, perhaps it doesn't even have a physical form we could understand. (quantum physics)

I DO think that we have some form of space station on the moon, but it is under the direction of DoD and US military space ops, not NASA. The most advanced space operations have NEVER been under NASA. So you can bet that very advanced technology is being used that is probably at least 50 years ahead of anything the general public has been allowed to observe.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
The fact is that NASA and JPL (both under the direction of the DoD) actually DO censor a LOT of photo, video, and audio material from space. Now why would they do that? That seems to clearly be a "conspiracy".

Then why do they allow the supposed real videos of alien moon bases and aliens on the moon stay on Youtube?

 

[Tempest]

The moon footage was taken with a film based camera. This footage is then scanned (many years later) into digital form for ease of use and distribution, and then people say that the film on Youtube is "unaltered".

Unless you are watching the exact film that was on the moon, the footage you are watching has been altered.

I especially like the "running alien" that just happen to only move as the camera starts to zoom in. It's an artifact of the camera zoom or simply a digitizing error.

If there are moon bases and whatever else, where are the launches from? This would take a massive logistical effort to build, design, move, and launch such huge amounts of materials.

 

[KrisZ]

What you fail to understand is that if there was a base on the moon, other countries would be free to report on that. US doesn’t hold all cards, all telescopes and all satellites. They would never be able to stop countries like Russia, China, North Korea and many, many others from making this public knowledge. So in this age of instant communications and access to information DoD would have to censor the whole world.

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ
What you fail to understand is that if there was a base on the moon, other countries would be free to report on that. US doesn’t hold all cards, all telescopes and all satellites. They would never be able to stop countries like Russia, China, North Korea and many, many others from making this public knowledge. So in this age of instant communications and access to information DoD would have to censor the whole world.


Could these other powers have the same ability the USA has, we are many years ahead of them.

Whose to say that there isn't an agreement by these powers to keep the lid on? It is likely that many of the herd would be panic stricken if it was learned that there are advanced entities in existence, and this would be something that even other powers would agree with.

Again the access to information is so limited to the general public that we cannot rule out ANY
POSSIBILITY.

The powers that be love that the majority will eagerly buy into whatever they claim as "facts".
LOL

You do know about "black budget" projects? LOL

Where does all those trillions disappear to?

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ
What you fail to understand is that if there was a base on the moon, other countries would be free to report on that. US doesn’t hold all cards, all telescopes and all satellites. They would never be able to stop countries like Russia, China, North Korea and many, many others from making this public knowledge. So in this age of instant communications and access to information DoD would have to censor the whole world.


But, all those countries are part of the NWO boogymen who are going to kill us all. They're all blood brothers. The elites. the Illuminati. EVERYONE is in on it.

sarcasm off.

This is where hard core conspiracy theory completely breaks down because when you start trying to connect illogical dots that start violating know facts, you start having to assume everything is a conspiracy. If that's what conspiracy people call "having an open mind", I'll keep my mind closed.