transmission fluid in with gas

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So I read on a forum & tried searching here about adding a qt of transmission fluid to gas to clean heads say on a ford triton, before trying to pull the plugs. Any experience with this?
 
bad idea. there is no cleaning involved from burning transmission fluid and the additives will leave deposits.

you would be better off with some 2 cycle oil at 800:1 or MMO
 
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If there was any cleaning done, it would only be from the injector to the combustion chamber. There are other ways to clean crud off of the intake valves.

MMO, injector cleaner, etc may be better options.

With that said ,you will not hurt anything by putting transmission fluid in the gas tank.
 
Either Techron or Regane complete fuel system cleaner will do the job. I use it in the spring and fall, usually before an oil change. AAP has Techron on 2 for one this month. FWIW

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Originally Posted By: rrguy
So I read on a forum & tried searching here about adding a qt of transmission fluid to gas to clean heads say on a ford triton, before trying to pull the plugs.

The only time I'd ever consider doing this (as in considering it harmless; it's still useless and a waste of time and ATF) would be if the engine had points. In other words, it also has a carb and there's no emissions system of which to speak and it doesn't much matter what you run in it.

Also, the old wive's tale about burning transmission fluid as a cleaner (or using it to fortify oil) should have died along with points, too.
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IIRC Gary Allan experimented with it, along with mixing it with MMO IIRC. He had a lengthy write up about it along with pictures.

OP-I'm not endorsing it, I'm just pushing you into a direction you can use to search for more reading about it.
 
What is the energy content of ATF? I have some old products I would like to liquidate. If it has some energy value then I might as well burn it than send it off to the recyclers.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
IIRC Gary Allan experimented with it, along with mixing it with MMO IIRC. He had a lengthy write up about it along with pictures.

OP-I'm not endorsing it, I'm just pushing you into a direction you can use to search for more reading about it.


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Im not saying I would do it either, but I think it may be same guy, but was a respected mechanic. He took pics of the head before & after also did it with MMO. Mainly trying to find a solution to help prevent them spark plugs in the Triton from breaking when being removed them etc...
 
Originally Posted By: Hollow
Trans fluid goes in the transmission.

Not in the oil. Not in the gas. In the transmission. The end.


But my transmission is already full? so put it in The (rear)end. ? I thought that took 70-140 gear oil? Trans oil looks kinda like offroad diesel maybe try it there?

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I was a certified mech 2+ decades ago and I too, have heard of all kinds of bizarre things from ole tyme mech added into gas.

Frankly, I'd stay away from those mech @ all cost, for their advice no longer in-line with what automotive technology has become.

Q.
 
Originally Posted By: Quest
I was a certified mech 2+ decades ago and I too, have heard of all kinds of bizarre things from ole tyme mech added into gas.

Frankly, I'd stay away from those mech @ all cost, for their advice no longer in-line with what automotive technology has become.

Q.


Whoaa! This should be a sticky!
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Originally Posted By: MrQuackers
What is the energy content of ATF? I have some old products I would like to liquidate. If it has some energy value then I might as well burn it than send it off to the recyclers.
ATF has no detergents (because it isn't designed to come into contact with blowby) but does contain dispersants. These dispersants, because they are not designed to be burned, are metallic salts that leave an abrasive ash when burned.

Don't burn ATF in an engine.
 
Originally Posted By: rrguy
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
IIRC Gary Allan experimented with it, along with mixing it with MMO IIRC. He had a lengthy write up about it along with pictures.

OP-I'm not endorsing it, I'm just pushing you into a direction you can use to search for more reading about it.


Thanks
Im not saying I would do it either, but I think it may be same guy, but was a respected mechanic. He took pics of the head before & after also did it with MMO. Mainly trying to find a solution to help prevent them spark plugs in the Triton from breaking when being removed them etc...



no fuel additive will loosen them. you can spray wd40 down each hole and let them sit overnight tho and it will seep past the threads and help you out a lot. i learned that after i did a couple of those 5.4 3v trucks.


also...buy the extractor kit, most the time some will break. i got mine from a MAC guy. ive changed several and at least one always breaks. i changed 1 triton and all 8 broke off.. after i remove them all with the extractor i like to disconnect the injectors and crank the engine over a couple times with all the plugs out to blow any porcelain that may have fell during the extraction. Also buy Champion 1-piece plugs instead of the motorcraft plugs. They are 1 piece by design and will come out so easy the next time around. NAPA carries them. i highly recommend them. all the 5.4's i've used them in ran great with them. don't forget a little anti-seize on the threads, and a little dialectic grease inside the coil boots!

good luck!
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donnyj08

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Sounds like some good info.
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I do have the extractor, cause it was my understanding its the tip that breaks no so much related to the threaded area. I personally like a penetrant or kroil over wd40.
 
Ken2 ATF has no detergents (because it isn't designed to come into contact with blowby) but does contain dispersants. These dispersants said:
Point taken but I will disagree that atf has no detergents. Atf has been found to disolve carbon also. ATF has many forumulas from Ford GM imports heavy equipment, Some older Mopar which did contain sorta grit additives. Some additives are metals yes, Zinc was often used in oil & atf but as a friction modifier. fluid


Most ATFs contain some combination of additives that improve lubricating qualities,[1][2][3] such as anti-wear additives, rust and corrosion inhibitors, detergents, dispersants and surfactants (which protect and clean metal surfaces); kinematic viscosity and viscosity index improvers and modifiers, seal swell additives and agents (which extend the rotational speed range and temperature range of the additives' application); anti-foam additives and anti-oxidation compounds to inhibit oxidation and "boil-off"[4] (which extends the life of the additives' application); cold-flow improvers, high-temperature thickeners, gasket conditioners, pour point depressant and petroleum dye. All ATFs contain friction modifiers, except for those ATFs specified for some (copy form wiki)
 
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