thought you guys might get a kick out of this.

[kkreit01]

I think if this went to dispute, you would lose. If you can't modify the auction with the correct shipping costs, I would end it early, and relist.

 

[joatmon]

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Sure, Joat. We're all used to the $39 item with $165 S&H for a $247 (retail) item. We're also used to the starting bid of $47 with a BUY IT NOW of $49 ..with a FLAT (and usually too high) S&H that jeeeest tips the scale toward bargain hunters NOT buying it. Everyone figures total price and bid accordingly. Having a ridiculously low S&H number ..in some vacuum of reasoning, is no assurance that you'll offset that lack of expense in realized gain bidwise. It's fine for commodities that don't have speculative worth. That is, they're paralleling the retail marketplace in REAL costs. Show me a sandwich oil cooler from an 80's Ford product and I'll go $40-$45 delivered. If it goes above that, someone else wants it more. You can tell a seller that's already researched the typical bid on stuff (my $40-$45 delivered)..and starts it there in their combination of costs. I don't even look at those auctions.

Bring us a revelation ..an epiphany.

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Well, Gary, I'm sorry my post did not live up to your expectations. The original poster did not seem to realize that the low shipping cost may have resulted in a higher bid on the actual item. Just stating the obvious because it seemed to be overlooked.

I do thank you for your most gracious response and wish for you to "have a nice day". In no way do I want to add more frustration and tension to you.

Joat

 

[Master ACiD]

guys i think you all mis understood the point of my post. i dont even care that he wanted clarity on my shipping price.
but it should of been obvious that i wasnt going to only charge $3 to ship out a set of 60lb wheels that probably weigh 90lbs after packing them. none the less i only mentioned the intelligence thing to get his goat. really, i know this is bad for buisness, but i dont like doing buisness with rude people. since ebay isnt my primary form of income, i can afford to pick and choose who i deal with and who i block. this may be alien to some people, but ebay isnt only about money. its about fun as well.

the point is that this ebayer asked me in a very rude way. in such a way that i didnt even want him to bid anymore. i just send him off an angry email reply to try and get his goat. honestly if he was a nice guy and asked about the shipping, i would have apologised and cut him slack and updated my shipping price to reflect reality.
but just to get his goat, i left the wheels on ebay with a 3.00 shipping charge.
they are still on there right now, for $3.00 shipping. i wonder what the guy thinks. maybe i should unblock him and ask.

 

[Gary Allan]

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Sure, Joat. We're all used to the $39 item with $165 S&H for a $247 (retail) item. We're also used to the starting bid of $47 with a BUY IT NOW of $49 ..with a FLAT (and usually too high) S&H that jeeeest tips the scale toward bargain hunters NOT buying it. Everyone figures total price and bid accordingly. Having a ridiculously low S&H number ..in some vacuum of reasoning, is no assurance that you'll offset that lack of expense in realized gain bidwise. It's fine for commodities that don't have speculative worth. That is, they're paralleling the retail marketplace in REAL costs. Show me a sandwich oil cooler from an 80's Ford product and I'll go $40-$45 delivered. If it goes above that, someone else wants it more. You can tell a seller that's already researched the typical bid on stuff (my $40-$45 delivered)..and starts it there in their combination of costs. I don't even look at those auctions.

Bring us a revelation ..an epiphany.

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Well, Gary, I'm sorry my post did not live up to your expectations. The original poster did not seem to realize that the low shipping cost may have resulted in a higher bid on the actual item. Just stating the obvious because it seemed to be overlooked.

I do thank you for your most gracious response and wish for you to "have a nice day". In no way do I want to add more frustration and tension to you.

Joat

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You obviously didn't appreciate my Roman "in the round" Captain Kirk presentation ..or perhaps the role of "The Advocate" before The Pilate..

All with a big smile on my face ..err ..well, ..maybe a grin

 

[Mr Nice]

Post the link so we can read the actual ad.

You can't even ship a pencil for 3 bucks

 

[moribundman]

A pencil? Well...

padded kraft paper envelope, 50 cents
First Class shipping (domestic), $1.30
Delivery Confirmation, 75 cents
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$2.55

Add cost for additional packaging materials like bubble wrap and the cost of a trip to the post office, including parking (25 cents for 3 minutes, time limit is 15 minutes, wait at post office takes 30 minutes!).

I have no problem with people trying to avoid high ebay fees by charging high shipping cost. On ebay, selling items that sell for less than $10 is essentially not worth the effort due to the high fees:

40 cents insertion fee (for starting price up to $9.99)
5.25% of sale value is the Final Value Fee

I fully understand if somebody offers his junk via "Buy it NOW" at $0.99 plus $7.95 shipping cost. It doesn't hurt the buyer, it simply cuts down on ebay's profits. If I sell something on ebay and the buyer pays with PayPal (owned by ebay), there are additional PayPal fees. If the buyer is in a foreign country, there is yet another fee.

The lowest I ever charge for shipping on ebay is $4 (small padded envelope, First Class with Delivery Confirmation Service). For bigger items I will charge Priority Mail or UPS shipping charge plus $2 in packaging materials (also helps cover parking meter at post office).

 

[moribundman]

There is one awkward situation that can occur when you charge a lot for shipping in an effort to ensure you get at least the amount the item you are selling is worth to you. For example, I have this fountain pen that's worth $15. I want to list it for as little money as possible, so I put it up with a starting bid of 99 cents. I'm too cheap to pay the $1 fee for a Reserve Price, but I don't want to sell the pen for less than $10. I can now calculate what shipping fee is required to ensure the profit I want. So far so good, but if people start a bidding war on the item and they end up paying $30 for the pen and are stuck with the now all of a sudden overly high shipping charge. In those cases, I do then give an appropriate shipping discount, because I think it's the fair thing to do.

 

[simple_gifts]

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There is one awkward situation that can occur when you charge a lot for shipping in an effort to ensure you get at least the amount the item you are selling is worth to you. For example, I have this fountain pen that's worth $15. I want to list it for as little money as possible, so I put it up with a starting bid of 99 cents. I'm too cheap to pay the $1 fee for a Reserve Price, but I don't want to sell the pen for less than $10. I can now calculate what shipping fee is required to ensure the profit I want. So far so good, but if people start a bidding war on the item and they end up paying $30 for the pen and are stuck with the now all of a sudden overly high shipping charge. In those cases, I do then give an appropriate shipping discount, because I think it's the fair thing to do.

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Are you often plagued by these dilemmas? I can't imagine a document explaining the thought process behind the purchase of a new car and the accompanying "extended warranty" offer.

 

[moribundman]

It's only a dilemma if there is no solution.

 

[Aldaris]

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You just had to remind me.

 

[moribundman]

Hair loss in the posterior swimsuit area is a sign of evolution -- a bald head is a sign of old age.

 

[joatmon]

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Sure, Joat. We're all used to the $39 item with $165 S&H for a $247 (retail) item. We're also used to the starting bid of $47 with a BUY IT NOW of $49 ..with a FLAT (and usually too high) S&H that jeeeest tips the scale toward bargain hunters NOT buying it. Everyone figures total price and bid accordingly. Having a ridiculously low S&H number ..in some vacuum of reasoning, is no assurance that you'll offset that lack of expense in realized gain bidwise. It's fine for commodities that don't have speculative worth. That is, they're paralleling the retail marketplace in REAL costs. Show me a sandwich oil cooler from an 80's Ford product and I'll go $40-$45 delivered. If it goes above that, someone else wants it more. You can tell a seller that's already researched the typical bid on stuff (my $40-$45 delivered)..and starts it there in their combination of costs. I don't even look at those auctions.

Bring us a revelation ..an epiphany.

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Well, Gary, I'm sorry my post did not live up to your expectations. The original poster did not seem to realize that the low shipping cost may have resulted in a higher bid on the actual item. Just stating the obvious because it seemed to be overlooked.

I do thank you for your most gracious response and wish for you to "have a nice day". In no way do I want to add more frustration and tension to you.

Joat

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You obviously didn't appreciate my Roman "in the round" Captain Kirk presentation ..or perhaps the role of "The Advocate" before The Pilate..

All with a big smile on my face ..err ..well, ..maybe a grin

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Gary,

I'm not certain of whom you speak. Is Captain Kirk a member or a breakfast cereal? If it's cool with you, I'm double kool with it.

Rock on,

Joat