This guy is right out of a bad movie....
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Pablo,
there was a case down here not so long ago, where a peadophile stated that he WOULD re-offend, and the courts had to release him, as the initial sentence was expired...their hands were ties.
Our state has just passed legislation that sex offenders who have shown no progress towards rehabilitation get another 5 years to think about it based on a psych report, and not much else. At the end of that 5 years, try again.
No courts involved.
there was a case down here not so long ago, where a peadophile stated that he WOULD re-offend, and the courts had to release him, as the initial sentence was expired...their hands were ties.
Our state has just passed legislation that sex offenders who have shown no progress towards rehabilitation get another 5 years to think about it based on a psych report, and not much else. At the end of that 5 years, try again.
No courts involved.
I work in Hartsville SC where this happened. The prosecuter tried to have him commited to a mental hospital after his release from prison under the sexual predator program but a judge released him saying no proof of danger to others. He only served 9 years of a 20 year term for raping a 12 year old girl.
Were I the father of the girl, that short sentence would be the answer to my prayers.
Get on your computers and you will see just how many of these animals live right by you. I live in a town with a Federal Prison and a State Prison. There was a figure out that around 10% end up living in my town after release.
Why do law makers go around with their heads in the clouds? Execute these freaks. I would have no remorse getting rid of this scum. Heck, I have plenty of spare ammunition. Firing squads - Its quick and fast, problem solved.
Why do law makers go around with their heads in the clouds? Execute these freaks. I would have no remorse getting rid of this scum. Heck, I have plenty of spare ammunition. Firing squads - Its quick and fast, problem solved.
Please visit National Sex Offender Registry if you have loved one's to protect.
He will burn in ****, that's for sure.
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I did just that. Most were there for what's called "Indecent Assault" ..which I'm unsure of the definition of. I would assume that groping would qualify. There were a few rapists and a couple that commited sexual battery. One "institutional assault" ..and one that surely was nasty ..but the wording was odd "taking liberties with children" (or close to that). How's that defined
..sounds like a Michael Jackson type thing. There were a few (thankfully just a few) that were listed as "sexual abuse of children".
There was actually one woman in a nearby community for indecent assault.
Most appeared to be general losers ..and most appeared to have origins in the shallow end of the gene pool. Others appeared rather normal.
I share Al's disposition if that was my daughter and they let him out early.
There was actually one woman in a nearby community for indecent assault.
Most appeared to be general losers ..and most appeared to have origins in the shallow end of the gene pool. Others appeared rather normal.
I share Al's disposition if that was my daughter and they let him out early.
Part of the problem with keeping these predators in jail is that we have put so many non-violent drug offendors in jail that no room is left for teh ones that need to be left there. Federal law prohibits overcrowding beyond a certain point, and the more you shove in the front door, that many have to come out the back door. Unfortunately with mandatory sentences to drug offenses, they stay while the most violent offendors and sexual predators go free.
Dan
Dan
I'm with Al, it wouldn't be pretty.
TO: kreigle from Pennsylvania:
Yes, you DO have a sex offender registry in your state, and the public has access to it. Here's the website access to it:
http://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/
For those of you from other states, go to the middle of this page, where the states are listed:
http://www.sexcriminals.com/registration-notification/
Yes, you DO have a sex offender registry in your state, and the public has access to it. Here's the website access to it:
http://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/
For those of you from other states, go to the middle of this page, where the states are listed:
http://www.sexcriminals.com/registration-notification/
Based on what I've read, you have to take what's in those databases with a pretty large grain of salt. There are a lot of inaccuracies, especially with the way most people will fail to report current addresses. Also, depending on state laws, a 17 year old caught in a tryst with a 15 year old can wind up in the database, even though everything was completely consentual. From what I saw in my area, most of the people on that list comitted fairly minor stuff, like touching and groping. There were only a few involving anything more than that.
I read an article that stated indecent exposure - like taking a drunken leak by a dumpster - can get you onto the "sexual offender list" as well.
I do not know if this is true, but if it is, perhaps there are fewer "true-predator-types" than the registeries indicate...?
I do not know if this is true, but if it is, perhaps there are fewer "true-predator-types" than the registeries indicate...?
Thanks. I looked up my zip code, and there are quite a few. However, since the zip covers a large area, and the law does not allow showing of street addresses, it's hard to know where they really are.
Wow. They don't really even list the crime involved, either. Most of them just say "Type of Offense: 3125 - AGGRAVATED INDECENT ASSAULT ". That could be pretty much anything? Heck, even a teacher patting a student on the butt could get charged for that.
Robb,
Yes you can be put on the registry for taking a leak by a dumpster. Usually charged as indecent exposure. This will get you on the registry.
Its just like all laws, you wind up catching ones you dont intend to and letting those go that need to be caught. Every law is this way.
Dan
Yes you can be put on the registry for taking a leak by a dumpster. Usually charged as indecent exposure. This will get you on the registry.
Its just like all laws, you wind up catching ones you dont intend to and letting those go that need to be caught. Every law is this way.
Dan
kreigle said: "Wow. They don't really even list the crime involved, either. Most of them just say "Type of Offense: 3125 - AGGRAVATED INDECENT ASSAULT ". That could be pretty much anything?"
You have to read the text of a particular criminal offense law to understand what it covers. Which means you have to look at your state's criminal code, which is usually available online, at libraries, through the staff of the Legislature, and other places. Here's the text of the Pennsyvania offense of Aggravated indecent assault:
§ 3125. Aggravated indecent assault.
Except as provided in sections 3121 (relating to rape), 3122.1 (relating to statutory sexual assault), 3123 (relating to involuntary deviate sexual intercourse) and 3124.1 (relating to sexual assault), a person who engages in penetration, however slight, of the genitals or **** of a complainant with a part of the person's body for any purpose other than good faith medical, hygienic or law enforcement procedures commits aggravated indecent assault, a felony of the second degree, if:
1. the person does so without the complainant's consent;
2. the person does so by forcible compulsion;
3. the person does so by threat of forcible compulsion that would prevent resistance by a person of reasonable resolution;
4. the complainant is unconscious or the person knows that the complainant is unaware that the penetration is occurring;
5. the person has substantially impaired the complainant's power to appraise or control his or her conduct by administering or employing, without the knowledge of the complainant, drugs, intoxicants or other means for the purpose of preventing resistance;
6. the complainant suffers from a mental disability which renders him or her incapable of consent;
7. the complainant is less than 13 years of age; or
8. the complainant is less than 16 years of age and the person is four or more years older than the complainant and the complainant and the person are not married to each other.
You have to read the text of a particular criminal offense law to understand what it covers. Which means you have to look at your state's criminal code, which is usually available online, at libraries, through the staff of the Legislature, and other places. Here's the text of the Pennsyvania offense of Aggravated indecent assault:
§ 3125. Aggravated indecent assault.
Except as provided in sections 3121 (relating to rape), 3122.1 (relating to statutory sexual assault), 3123 (relating to involuntary deviate sexual intercourse) and 3124.1 (relating to sexual assault), a person who engages in penetration, however slight, of the genitals or **** of a complainant with a part of the person's body for any purpose other than good faith medical, hygienic or law enforcement procedures commits aggravated indecent assault, a felony of the second degree, if:
1. the person does so without the complainant's consent;
2. the person does so by forcible compulsion;
3. the person does so by threat of forcible compulsion that would prevent resistance by a person of reasonable resolution;
4. the complainant is unconscious or the person knows that the complainant is unaware that the penetration is occurring;
5. the person has substantially impaired the complainant's power to appraise or control his or her conduct by administering or employing, without the knowledge of the complainant, drugs, intoxicants or other means for the purpose of preventing resistance;
6. the complainant suffers from a mental disability which renders him or her incapable of consent;
7. the complainant is less than 13 years of age; or
8. the complainant is less than 16 years of age and the person is four or more years older than the complainant and the complainant and the person are not married to each other.
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In the case of the data bases ...they seem to snag more then they intend too. I don't want to discount the value of them ..nor their intent, but they seem to create more of a self propelling bureaucracy then they do at ever serving to protect the community ..much what our drunk driving laws have evolved to. It has perfunctory motions that are employed that, on the surface, all seem appropriate, but if analysed in practice, merely create a new class of criminal that, more or less, feeds the system. I'm sure that many that are in the data base are from guilty pleas that were, to some extent, "Sign this and it will all go away ...or you can take what's behind door #3 (trial)".
They also have a dead beat dad database. Not a bad idea, but the local county snagged this poor youngster for back support (he was unemployed for a stretch). They had already garnished his wages and then threw him in the slammer for a month. He lost his job and had no wages to attach. How did this serve the child that the county was allegedly protecting.
That's the problem with most liberal viewpoints on this subject. It's not just about the victim. IMHO, if a perp is guilty of ANY crime against a child - I don't care it is sexual assault, support non-payment or anything in between - that individual needs punishment. He/she needs to feel the pain and clearly understand what they did was wrong. In the extreme cases, death is too good. Torture would be better, but that is unlawful nowadays, so oh well...
jmacmaster, thanks for that explanation. That really clears up for me how dangerous some of these people might be. I just wish the law concerning the contents of the database could be a little more specific than just zip code. My zip code includes parts of at least 3 school districts. I can't tell by looking at the search results if I should be worried about any particular person or not; does someone live just around the corner or are they 4 miles away, where we would never see them?
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