The Idemitsu still comes out a bit cheaper at about $9.68/qt shipped from Amazon including tax.
($43.99/jug before tax)
Thinking About Idemitsu TLS-LV for 2007 Tacoma V6 (Aisin A750E Automatic)
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($43.99/jug before tax)
edyvw
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It could be that they changed it with new packaging. I know that there was nothing special about that fluid before. It could also explain the dramatic jump in price. I remember buying it for $5 in 2018.
I used that same exact fluid for my 2008 Toyota Tundra 6 speed automatic. After 4 Fill N Spills within 2000 miles. Transmission is shifting flawlessly for 165K sitting on her now. Idemitsu TLS-LV is a great bang for the buck. I paid 40 bucks off Amazon for the 5 quart containers.
FWIW Eneos makes a product line literally called "Import Series Exact Match". Here, it would be what they call Model T-W. They link directly to PDS-transparent.
I would use HPL Green in OP's application and nothing else. Longer FCI.
Taco's forever. Err Taco's last forever.
I would use HPL Green in OP's application and nothing else. Longer FCI.
Taco's forever. Err Taco's last forever.
IDK, I haven’t had a problem going 100,000 miles on WS, and this Idemitsu fluid should theoretically be superior to WS.
I’ve used the Idemitsu TLS-LV in my 2019 TRD OffRoad Tacoma and it has been great! The shifts definitely feel more crisp, as crisp as a Toyota 6 speed auto with 107,000 miles can be!
@john_pifer
I had an 06 tundra with probably a similar gen transmission. Maybe the A650? It did very well on amsoil. Youve picked out idemitsu, sounds great. I’ve had very good luck with amsoil, but rarely use a full bottle because it does seem to alter the shift characteristics some. For a healthy trans I’ll use 1/4 dose. You might start there. If the shudder stops, be done. If it’s better-ish after a week but not totally gone, add another 1/4 bottle. If it settles down, great. If the second dose doesn’t change anything, leave it.
If you don’t have the time, you can probably dump the whole bottle and be fine - I tend to overthink things sometimes.
I had an 06 tundra with probably a similar gen transmission. Maybe the A650? It did very well on amsoil. Youve picked out idemitsu, sounds great. I’ve had very good luck with amsoil, but rarely use a full bottle because it does seem to alter the shift characteristics some. For a healthy trans I’ll use 1/4 dose. You might start there. If the shudder stops, be done. If it’s better-ish after a week but not totally gone, add another 1/4 bottle. If it settles down, great. If the second dose doesn’t change anything, leave it.
If you don’t have the time, you can probably dump the whole bottle and be fine - I tend to overthink things sometimes.
You can get Toyota WS ATF in a 4 liter can on Amazon for about the same price. It is shipped from the Toyota of North Miami dealership, so it is genuine. I bought some two weeks ago.
Don't play games ! Asian vehicles are picky about their fluids. Go back with OEM. I blew a perfectly good Honda tranny using Idemitsu ATF. Ran fine for a week. Then began losing gears, one by one. DON"T make the mistake I made. It was cheaper than Honda DW-1. Bottle even said " comparable to DW-1"......Idiot mistake.....over what....$ 25 bucks in savings ??????
I've used Idemitsu TLS- LV in a 2021 Camry with the Aisin UB80E 8 speed. No problems after about 30k miles. I've used Valvoline Maxlife before that with no issues. The very first fluid change I used Maxlife and it seemed to immediately a weird shifting issue on the 3-4 or 4-5 shift.
I guess Toyota is " less" picky than my 13' Honda CRV. I was so mad !!!!! Cost me $ 3,100.00 for a re-man from Honda with a 3yr / 36K warranty. But, ya know. Ever since that costly mistake, I've maintained that re-man Tranny myself using only Honda ATF. I put over 400,000k on it !!!!!....Spill and fill every 5k. 3 quarts. Has this huge magnet on the plug and a filter that's a real PITA to get at, but I change it every 30k. That magnet barely has any "dark mush" on it. NEVER had metal on it. Shifts like new. I got VERY lucky on that tranny. Must have been re-manned on a Wednesday,,,,you know,,when you're in the swing of things at work. LOL 
I've been using a combination of Idemitsu and Valvoline Maxlife in my 2012 Rav4 and at 212,000 miles I don't have any shifting issues. I do a fluid swap every 30-40,000 miles and usually get 4-5 qts out through the dipstick using a MityVac extractor. I dropped the trans pan to replace the filter at 169,000 and had very little fuzz/debris on the magnets.
Got PTSD from my Honda experiment using Idemitsu ATF,,,and a week later " ka boomm".......So on my 03' Solara and 06' Camry I only use OEM Toyota ATF. Just got 2 more cases today. Also installed " REAL" Magnefine 5/8" inline filters in both cars, so I don't have to drop the pan as often..That 06' Camry is a real PITA to get the trans pan down 
. They slid the pan under part of the frame so you can't get to the 10mm bolts on that side. Gotta unbolt 2 engine mounts, and loosen the last mount to raise engine/tranny to get a socket in there on a swivel. Friggin INSANE !!!!! OE filter had 120k on it and actually had holes in it from being overstressed and clogged. Talk about a rock catcher filter. That was lettin rocks thru it. Put back an OEM filter, 8 qts fluid . Ran it 20 miles on jack stands going thru all the gears, dumped another 5 qts of muck out of it. Then installed the Magnefine filter and 5 qts fluid. FINALLY, it's clean. Good tranny to be able to shift on that mud . Try to spill and fill every 10k. Old trannys.
. They slid the pan under part of the frame so you can't get to the 10mm bolts on that side. Gotta unbolt 2 engine mounts, and loosen the last mount to raise engine/tranny to get a socket in there on a swivel. Friggin INSANE !!!!! OE filter had 120k on it and actually had holes in it from being overstressed and clogged. Talk about a rock catcher filter. That was lettin rocks thru it. Put back an OEM filter, 8 qts fluid . Ran it 20 miles on jack stands going thru all the gears, dumped another 5 qts of muck out of it. Then installed the Magnefine filter and 5 qts fluid. FINALLY, it's clean. Good tranny to be able to shift on that mud . Try to spill and fill every 10k. Old trannys.
What was the outcome of your switch?
Honda did not like Idemitsu ATF. It blew a week later. On the 2 Toyota's used OEM ATF. They are shifting much smoother now. They like what I fed it. When I do Honda spill and fills now, it's only OEM Honda ATF fluid, no problems.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, bud, but Idemitsu manufactures Honda DW-1. I have a hard time believing that their labeled bottle is in any way different from what is in Honda's.
edyvw
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Which Honda was that?
Haven’t gotten around to doing it yet.
Been waiting on the weather to get a little cooler.
I do have the fluid.
Will update after I do it.
13' CRV. I read up on the Idemitsu before I chucked it into the CRV. Said comparable to DW-1, that's why I went with it. Well, my CRV tranny didn't like it, and it slowly starting losing gears. I was left with LOW and reverse. Unless it was just a co inky dink ??? Have no clue. Always did a spill and fill with Honda DW-1 @ 5k. No signs of wear on the magnet, just you're average little sludgy stuff. No metal shavings, no copper. I have bad luck anyway, always did. Anyway, went to the dealer. They put in a re-man with 3yr/36k warranty. Put almost 400k on that tranny already. Only use Honda DW-1 @ 5k spill & fills & replace the rock catcher filter every 30 K. Got lucky on the 2nd one
If you have a shudder, I'd go with Maxlife and a bottle or 2 of Lubegard Red in it. We used maxlife atf in my kids Taco that called for WS and no issues.
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