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Apologies in advance if I should have posted this in my existing thread but I wanted to make sure even those who already responded saw it as everyone provided good advice.

Anyways my winter tires are stuck in FedEx Hell and I have not received an update since they supposedly left the Indy hub 4 days ago. As I read and learn more I am thinking about returning them and going the all season route.

My problem is I can't find 1) any all season in 295/35/23 ( my Oem size) 2 ) can't find much even if I go to other oem size as I don't see a lot of rims in stock for quick delivery. Believe the 22 rims are 10.5 ( not sure of the offset) and tire size is 285 40 r22.

So 3rd option is I do see some all seasons at 285/35/23. So question is will those 10mm thinner tires work on the oem 23 rims? Is that something discount tire would still mount or are they not allowed to mount if different than oem size?

The reason for all this panic is it is going to be 17 degrees here the next 4 mornings and I really need to drive the car so looking for best quick option to not have to drive on sport contact 6s with one already damaged on the sidewalk.

Thanks again for your advice.
 
You should rent a car.

To note, If you are lucky to live in a big city that has a Tire Hub distributer and they have the tires you want today, you can possibly get them installed today/Sunday. The Tire Hub is a joint venture to distribute Goodyear and Bridgestone tires. So it'd have to be from those two brands and maybe what else is sold you can get at a Firestone Auto Care or a Goodyear Auto Service location. That is a Stupid size BTW.
 
I don't think there's a vehicle on Earth which would be upset over a tire being 10 nominal mm narrower.

+1 on those 'screwy sizes'. Just ask my sis/bil who enjoyed 2 destroyed wheels and tires on a Saturday night in the same hour.
275/35/19 and 245/40/19 (can't remember front/rear). Yes, staggered tires on a Genesis.

He's up to 3 successful wheel claims. Steer clear (get it?) of lowboy tires.
 
Kira said:
I don't think there's a vehicle on Earth which would be upset over a tire being 10 nominal mm narrower.

+1 on those 'screwy sizes'. Just ask my sis/bil who enjoyed 2 destroyed wheels and tires on a Saturday night in the same hour.
275/35/19 and 245/40/19 (can't remember front/rear). Yes, staggered tires on a Genesis.

He's up to 3 successful wheel claims. Steer clear (get it?) of lowboy tires.
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not always possible.. on a standard hyundai elantra sure... on a VW golf R or something exotic like the OP's car.. not so much.
 
Kira said:
275/35/19 and 245/40/19 (can't remember front/rear). Yes, staggered tires on a Genesis.
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That is the exact size on my F-Type. I will probably go one size up as the rims are wider than the tires.

Back to the OP's post, I generally don't like all season tires for real winter snow and ice use. I do like them for general driving as they often have many sipes to help in wet conditions. Real winter tires are best in real winter conditions.

My AWD Jag X-Type was a tire chewing disaster and I put tires on it every 1.5 years. I tried Michelin and Hankook all seasons. Even with excellent AWD, the car got stuck regularly. My driveway in PA got to the point where even with AWD I had to park at the top. My boss' Subaru on winter tires was able to climb right up.

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Imo, the only way to 'know for sure' if DT will mount the tires, is to call or preferably go to closest b&m store, explain your concerns, and ask them. DT used to list alternative sizes for use on their website, don't know if still true. I've had DT mount an alternative size on a Civic with no issues, 195/60-15 for OE 185/65-15.

As a related aside, recently had a similar Fed Ex experience on a set of Puma kicks originating/traveling through in Indianapolis area too. After supposedly left Indianapolis, it was like they disappeared for days. I did finally receive them, but not before multiple nonproductive calls to Puma.
 
Where is the OP, Atlanta and Indy have been mentioned.

Atlanta doesn't get cold enough for long enough or get enough snow to warrant winter tires IMO.

I personally would put summer tires on it (since all seasons are non existent in the correct size) and either not drive it or drive it gingerly and sparingly on the grand total of 15 days a year its too cold or snowy.

I mean its a 600+ HP twin turbo V8 SUV - gonna have some compromises....
 
Thanks all for the replies...yes I am in Atlanta area. Like I mentioned i am rather new to the performance car/summer tire game. I panicked when I read a few things that said never run performance summer when temp is below 40 degrees and we have a few months where the morning lows are typically in the 30's along with the fact that this cold stretch is resulting in lows in the teen s this week. I needed new tires anyways as one of the Prosport 6 on the RSQ8 has a cracked sidewall and is slowly leaking (2-3 PSI per day).

I just want to drive it. So trying to figuire out best way forward. Are some of you saying I shouldn't worry about the cold as much as I am as long as it is dry and I am ok just replacing with another set of summer tires?

Thanks again for all your advice and opinions.
 
Get a pre-mounted tire/wheel package from TR. It will arrive in a few days.

Get the Rial Kibox 21" wheels and the Vredestein Quatrac Pro tires. The tire size will be 285/45-21
 
Kira said:
I don't think there's a vehicle on Earth which would be upset over a tire being 10 nominal mm narrower.
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Actually, it might. It's not just width, but the overall sidewall height/diameter will get reduced as well. TPMS may throw a fit over this, thinking it's an under-inflation condition.
 
Tire rack has a hub in atlanta too, up by the old GM plant. You can pick up if they have it IRRC.

in 22 it looks like there is one All Season available, but you're in luck, its the best one. MPSAS4.

Im not normally a fan of non stock sizes, but the difference in your two size examples is 5 revs per mile and .3" overall which is negligible using a Conti as an example. Also the smaller tire is spaced for 9.5-11" wheel.

RE: the summer tires, having been down the rabbit hole on that it seems to be not wide agreement, but GM for instance says you shouldn't move a car with summer tires below 20 ambient and performance is reduced below 40. Conti is more circumspect but says don't drive one in ice or snow.

As i said earlier, me personally i would probably put summer tires on it and avoid driving it in lower temps. - That doesn't mean you should necessarily.

My second choice would be a set of factory 22 with the PSAS4, and third would be the alternate size 23. Considering there time crunch it might be your best choice if someone has the tires.
 
Quattro Pete said:
Actually, it might. It's not just width, but the overall sidewall height/diameter will get reduced as well. TPMS may throw a fit over this, thinking it's an under-inflation condition.
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Direct TPMS doesn't care as long as it's at the correct factory pressure. If all 4 tires have enough pressure in them, the TPMS will have no issues.

Indirect TPMS doesn't care as long as all 4 are the same. When the new tires are installed and inflated, there is a reset button to hit, and that will set the baseline for indirect TPMS.

Some AWD systems are sensitive to difference in diameter, but these only care if you have different tire sizes on the same car (like could happen if you're using a donut spare). Some also get upset if you have one new tire (to replace a damaged tire) and 3 used ones, because the diameter of the new tire can be different enough to trigger an alarm. But again, if all 4 are the same diameter, there is no problem. It doesn't have to be the stock size, as long as all 4 are the same size.

DuckRyder said:
Tire rack has a hub in atlanta too, up by the old GM plant. You can pick up if they have it IRRC.

in 22 it looks like there is one All Season available, but you're in luck, its the best one. MPSAS4.

Im not normally a fan of non stock sizes, but the difference in your two size examples is 5 revs per mile and .3" overall which is negligible using a Conti as an example. Also the smaller tire is spaced for 9.5-11" wheel.

RE: the summer tires, having been down the rabbit hole on that it seems to be not wide agreement, but GM for instance says you shouldn't move a car with summer tires below 20 ambient and performance is reduced below 40. Conti is more circumspect but says don't drive one in ice or snow.

As i said earlier, me personally i would probably put summer tires on it and avoid driving it in lower temps. - That doesn't mean you should necessarily.

My second choice would be a set of factory 22 with the PSAS4, and third would be the alternate size 23. Considering there time crunch it might be your best choice if someone has the tires.
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To add to this, Goodyear says the glass transition of all their summer tires is 20F.
 
slacktide_bitog said:
Direct TPMS doesn't care as long as it's at the correct factory pressure. If all 4 tires have enough pressure in them, the TPMS will have no issues.

Indirect TPMS doesn't care as long as all 4 are the same. When the new tires are installed and inflated, there is a reset button to hit, and that will set the baseline for indirect TPMS.
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Yup, not TPMS, my bad.

On the other hand, traction control icon would keep flashing on my old 5-series (no actual TPMS, direct or indirect) whenever all 4 tires were underinflated. I'm guessing it was somehow measuring that the rotational circumference was less than expected.
 
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