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The END of German Castrol?
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Why does Castrol US even continue on with both grades? Doesn't the new(er) 0w-40 now meet all the specs that the 0w30 meets and more?
Try three grades, at least up here. The GC, 0w-40, and the 5w-40 on our shelves all meet the same specifications (with the API specs the only differences on a cursory check). Oddly enough, the new 0w-40 is about a buck a litre more than the GC or the 5w-40.
Out here, the 5w-40 version only meets MB 229.3, but the 0w30 and 0w-40 versions meet MB 229.5, so I consider them superior to the 5w-40 grade.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Why does Castrol US even continue on with both grades? Doesn't the new(er) 0w-40 now meet all the specs that the 0w30 meets and more?
Try three grades, at least up here. The GC, 0w-40, and the 5w-40 on our shelves all meet the same specifications (with the API specs the only differences on a cursory check). Oddly enough, the new 0w-40 is about a buck a litre more than the GC or the 5w-40.
Out here, the 5w-40 version only meets MB 229.3, but the 0w30 and 0w-40 versions meet MB 229.5, so I consider them superior to the 5w-40 grade.
Yep, I did gloss over the differences in the MB specifications. I'm not terribly pleased with Walmart charging more for the 0w-40 than the 0w30 or 5w-40. After all, it's not like a discount is available for buying in a 5 litre jug anyhow. I don't know if there's such a price difference in the States or if it's just a Canadian thing.
Don't blame Imperial Oil. Blame Walmart and Canadian Tire. They're the ones with the 100% markup.
Bobbydavro any evidence you are able to share that makes you draw your conclusion other than its a BITOG myth.
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No evidence sorry. Just that the 0W LL01 formulations haven't changed for a long time.
Originally Posted By: bobbydavro
No evidence sorry. Just that the 0W LL01 formulations haven't changed for a long time.
But they have. Look at the technical datasheets and the oils are clearly not the same anymore. I don't understand how you can argue that point.
No evidence sorry. Just that the 0W LL01 formulations haven't changed for a long time.
But they have. Look at the technical datasheets and the oils are clearly not the same anymore. I don't understand how you can argue that point.
Interesting. What's changed on the TDS?
I currently have 10 quarts of Made in Germany Castrol Syntec 0w30 in my 1984 Jeep Cherokee. Its not in the engine though, its in AutoZone bags up front in passenger foot compartment, 2 bags, 2 oil change specials of $31.99 for 5 quarts each and Mobil 1 301 Extended Performance oil filters that Ill just Stash Away...M13????? Castrol EDGE 0w30 at that, 2013..
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All this banter makes me glad I still have 3 changes of the green left....
Originally Posted By: beanoil
All this banter makes me glad I still have 3 changes of the green left....
I think they should have continued the green product. Honestly, something little like that can really make a difference in bringing in a customer. I'd use it, if it was still green.
All this banter makes me glad I still have 3 changes of the green left....
I think they should have continued the green product. Honestly, something little like that can really make a difference in bringing in a customer. I'd use it, if it was still green.
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Is this 0W30 Made in Belgium with same specs or they updated it to EU 0W30 (MB 229.51, BMW LL-04)?
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It's the same stuff
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Is this 0W30 Made in Belgium with same specs or they updated it to EU 0W30 (MB 229.51, BMW LL-04)?
I've never seen Belgian made 0w-30,only 0w-40 on our shelves locally.
Is this 0W30 Made in Belgium with same specs or they updated it to EU 0W30 (MB 229.51, BMW LL-04)?
I've never seen Belgian made 0w-30,only 0w-40 on our shelves locally.
I was just at 2 of my local Auto Zones and they had full stock of GC priced at almost $9 a qt. They had just received a new order of the stuff in the back that was not on the shelf yet. I asked the guy if it was in his computer and able to order it and he said it was and they were showing another delivery of GC in less then a week.
Not sure where you guys are seeing this but GC is here to stay.
Not sure where you guys are seeing this but GC is here to stay.
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
I was just at 2 of my local Auto Zones and they had full stock of GC priced at almost $9 a qt. They had just received a new order of the stuff in the back that was not on the shelf yet. I asked the guy if it was in his computer and able to order it and he said it was and they were showing another delivery of GC in less then a week.
Not sure where you guys are seeing this but GC is here to stay.
Chris, the point was 0w30 was coming from Belgium now. So "German Castrol" as we knew could potentially be gone. The name came from its country of origin.
Now there are reports saying the previous Belgium product, 0w-40 is coming from Germany of all things (this was not known when thread began).
I was just at 2 of my local Auto Zones and they had full stock of GC priced at almost $9 a qt. They had just received a new order of the stuff in the back that was not on the shelf yet. I asked the guy if it was in his computer and able to order it and he said it was and they were showing another delivery of GC in less then a week.
Not sure where you guys are seeing this but GC is here to stay.
Chris, the point was 0w30 was coming from Belgium now. So "German Castrol" as we knew could potentially be gone. The name came from its country of origin.
Now there are reports saying the previous Belgium product, 0w-40 is coming from Germany of all things (this was not known when thread began).
Man - i really need to see the GERMAN 0w40 - I have a stash of the Belgian variety that I got when it was BOGO at AAP...
Both 0w30 and 0W-40 will continue to exist.
A production site change doesnt actually mean the formulation changes.
A production site change doesnt actually mean the formulation changes.
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