Tesla cars lose their value even faster than a Maserati, study says
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He's doing pretty well for a 'gambler'. I think most of the Musk hatred is due to the politics.
Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg etc...are just as 'evil' but get a pass because....
What?
Tailgate Emergency ReleaseAn interior release, located on the inside of the tailgate, allows a person trapped in the cargo bed to open the tailgate when Cybertruck is parked.
To use the emergency release, flip the cover upward to access the pull strap, then pull the strap firmly toward you.WarningPeople should never be inside the cargo bed when the Cybertruck is moving. Never shut the tailgate when a person is inside.
The emergency release cover is visible in this video:
Does it glow in the dark? From my understanding of NHTSA rules it's required to.
For "passenger cars", which can exempt light trucks.
But the rule allows for both glow in the dark or automatic lighting.
Plus the "Carbon offset credits " which Tesla made 1.8 billion on last year. This is from Musk who says "Subsidies are stupid.". I don't remember him complaining about subsidies in Teslas early days. If he dislikes subsidies so bad then get California to get rid of the carbon offset credits and hand back the $9.5 Billion back.
I'm in the used car side of the business. Customer brought in a 2022 FORD Lighting Lariat to trade in. Range and charge times in reality were very different than what the Ford Sales rep pitched. Half the range and 3x the charge times. She brought it in with 3,000 miles. Bought it for $85,000. Best I could get her on trade, $40,000.
Ouch.
Ouch.
I know that in the Bugatti Chiron for the USA market Bugatti had to add a divider to the front compartment as to make it "two compartments " so they could skirt around the rules that required auto manufacturers to add an emergency release. Seems like a cop-out.
Wow! I would have (stupidly) been tempted to buy it...
When I worked sales at a Lexus Dealership we had a guy bring his barely 6 month old Tesla model X. He had one of the first deliveries in the country. He lived in Vail and had a two mile long unpaved driveway. Tesla sales associates swore up and down how capable the model x was, and he'd never get stranded. Granted his situation is very rare in the USA. Never the less he paid $140,000 plus tax title license etc. The dealership gave him $90,000 on trade. He traded it for a Lexus GX460 that with full-time 4wd with low range can actually go off road.
Saw a chart a few months ago. I think Wall Street price their AI, super charger network, solar and storage, EV, etc as a combination and only 40% of the company was priced as a car company and about 19% or so was for its AI. I'm not saying I agree with it but that's what Wall Street sees.
Still this is not related to how their cars' price drop. Any new cool products with high demand will go from "you can't get it if you pay MSRP" to market saturation, to older products competing with newer cooler products as they age. Tesla is not in the business of selling luxury good and limit production like Ferrari, and as innovation comes the cost of making newer better cars are cheaper than older ones, and the older ones have to drop in the relative value. Look at PCs from the 90s. They could last 20 years and are well built but, they depreciate into nothing in 3 years because the newer ones are doubling in power every 18 months or so for the same price. EVs today is in the same situation as before.
One day you will see a 20 year old neglected Tesla parking at supercharger with a homeless man inside, just like you see a homeless man in a super durable 95 Camry wagon today. It is not Toyota's fault.
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The body shop I went to fixing my dad's van have a separate price for Tesla: 160/hr vs 130/hr due to extra wait time for parts and other quirks.
Kia does excellent. The only potential issue with eGMP is iccu, and they're handling it fine.
Also...mature platforms have issues too...Mazda 2021 cx5 turbo oil consumption. The 2.5T was solid for 5 years prior...
Oh cmon. As long as ground clearance didnt prevent it, and he used proper tires, this is just a complete nonissue. I live 1 mile off pavement and my EVs have handled that better than any petrol powered vehicle, rain or snow or shine, including my 300ft long 27 percent incline drive.
I'd love to see his reasoning on it like a used car would be worth more than a new, readily available version of the exact same car.
Replying to my post....
...But, when will we see the first lawsuits on this type of scenario.
Seems to be deceptive advertising, and deceptive sales practices.
This lady is out $50,000 when you take into account lost sales tax savings on the next purchase.
From a practical point of view, when purchasing an EV, much of what you are purchasing is a large battery. Tesla gets it right with structurally intact cylindrical cells. Other manufacturers often use bloat-prone pouch cells or prismatic cells (pouch in a tight box). In my opinion if you want an EV, a Tesla is a strong choice for the superb charging network, the robust battery, and well refined technology.
It should come as no surprise BMW is moving to Tesla style cylindrical cells, as a way to reduce problems and increase lifespan.
Still not great. Know someone with an M3P that's a year or so old, and got rear ended in a fender bender.
It took some time for the "approved" body shop to source the new bumper cover, but at least the car was driveable in the interim.
That's exactly what I thought would be the difference. It's a truck bed, not a trunk.
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