Synthetic vs Blend.. not the same age old question

[rclint]

I remember years ago when synthetic became the boom where someone ran a test on synthetic verses a blend (semi-synthetic). The test showed the blend to work better as the synthetic oil molecules were all the same size, so they would not fill the mirco voids/machine marks as well as the blend. Does anyone remember seeing this published. link ?

Clint

 

[Steve S]

People worry to much about oil.

 

[J_Myler]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
People worry to much about oil.

Not to be a jerk, but you say people worry too much about oil but you have 10.701 posts?

 

[Eddie]

I've never heard that a blend was better than a full synthetic except for price. Where is this article?

 

[djb]

People, in general, do not worry too much about oil.

People here do.

That's why we are here. No need to state the unspoken, lest it make us.. uncomfortable.

 

[SuperDave456]

I can see how someone could think that with a synthetic blend you can get the best of both worlds.
However, it is repeatedly proven that what synthetic oils provide is longer change intervals not reduced wear.
So, are you gaining something going to a mid level priced synthetic blend? Or are you losing something by not paying a little bit more for a full synthetic and getting a few more thousand miles per oci?
And how much of that "blend" is really synthetic?

In the end I think that an appropriate OCI to the machine you have and with the oil you have will provide excellent results. Different machines, different oils, and different driving change all that.

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted By: Eddie
I've never heard that a blend was better than a full synthetic except for price. Where is this article?


A Schaeffer's advertisement.

For the same additives and amount, synthetic is always better than a blend. The only thing that blend is better is if you want to add more additives than can be done in synthetic. Molakule's Specialty Formulation use this approach for its ATF.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: J_Myler
Originally Posted By: Steve S
People worry to much about oil.

Not to be a jerk, but you say people worry too much about oil but you have 10,701 posts?

Carry on.

 

[SnakeOil]

Originally Posted By: SuperDave456
However, it is repeatedly proven that what synthetic oils provide is longer change intervals not reduced wear.

Tell that to the people with sludged up engines with turbos. Blanket statements are the root of all evil.

 

[Mark888]

Originally Posted By: J_Mylar
Originally Posted By: Steve S
People worry to much about oil.

Not to be a jerk, but you say people worry too much about oil but you have 10.701 posts?

That doesn't mean he worries about oil, it just means he is retired.

 

[levi]

Shucks, at an average of nearly 5 posts a day for the last 6 years, he's just found a new hobby, that's all.

 

[REDDOG]

Originally Posted By: djb
People, in general, do not worry too much about oil.

People here do.

That's why we are here. No need to state the unspoken, lest it make us.. uncomfortable.



Ha, Ha ! True.

 

[rclint]

This was an actual article, with the research, seems there was a tear down or some type of wear measurement, and I also remember a enlarged picture of the metal substrate of some part... I'm not dreaming this up, I have searched all over with no luck, if I can find it I will post. It was in a magazine I remember that for sure, and not a info ad, it was a document article.

I didn't post this to instigate people who worry to much about oil... I'm not one of those people, I try for the best bang for the buck, I go from one end of the spectrum to the other, and then I just drop somewhere in the middle for best bang for the buck oil, and filter. I was interested if anyone had any information on the subject. I also like to try the new stuff, I guess the commercials work on me, or maybe I just like to try new things ?

 

[webfors]

link, link!! It would be an interesting read, and I'm sure we'd get some heated discussion going on the topic

Hey, it's BITOG, where all the compulsive oil nuts hang out. If it's not about oil you'd be on some other boring social website talking about Obama, politics, or the same...

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: J_Myler
Originally Posted By: Steve S
People worry to much about oil.

Not to be a jerk, but you say people worry too much about oil but you have 10.701 posts?



I don't worry about oil as the proper oil will not be the cause of retiring any of the vehicles I own. I am into best bang for the $$$$ ...One more post!!!

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: SnakeOil
Originally Posted By: SuperDave456
However, it is repeatedly proven that what synthetic oils provide is longer change intervals not reduced wear.

Tell that to the people with sludged up engines with turbos. Blanket statements are the root of all evil.
Turbos don't cause sludge.

 

[Oldmoparguy1]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: SnakeOil
Originally Posted By: SuperDave456
However, it is repeatedly proven that what synthetic oils provide is longer change intervals not reduced wear.

Tell that to the people with sludged up engines with turbos. Blanket statements are the root of all evil.
Turbos don't cause sludge.

People cause sludge.... I

 

[webfors]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: SnakeOil
Originally Posted By: SuperDave456
However, it is repeatedly proven that what synthetic oils provide is longer change intervals not reduced wear.

Tell that to the people with sludged up engines with turbos. Blanket statements are the root of all evil.
Turbos don't cause sludge.


What?!? Please elaborate.

Check out the Passat forums and the multitude of sludged up 1.8T engines. Turbos are a huge factor when deciding the quality of the oil you use. If I had a turbo forester I think it would be negligent not to use a quality syn, unless I ran 2k mile oci's on gtx, and even then I'd be worried. For my NA forester, I could use Dino till the body rots out I agree... but come on now

 

[webfors]

Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: SnakeOil
Originally Posted By: SuperDave456
However, it is repeatedly proven that what synthetic oils provide is longer change intervals not reduced wear.

Tell that to the people with sludged up engines with turbos. Blanket statements are the root of all evil.
Turbos don't cause sludge.

People cause sludge.... I

Agreed, the poor decisions that people make cause sludge. Those decisions include, but are not limited to, the oil that should be used for a specific application.

 

[PT1]

Every time I see a bottle of "Synthetic Blend" my mind sees 2% synthetic 98% dino...maybe I am just too synical...I mean cynical...