Sweet - Unknown potential ICBM launched
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The CBS evening news was yesterday was saying that it was pretty much settled: a plane.
I don't buy it.
http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen-china-fired-missile-seen-in-southern-california/
I don't buy it.
http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen-china-fired-missile-seen-in-southern-california/
I'm still on the fence. The CBS affiliate that filmed this released the entire video (according to them) which shows a plane overhead eventually and the contrail dissipating. Problem is, it's blatantly cut and spliced and the lighting is totally different.
Unless the entire video from the CBS chopper is released unedited, questions will abound.
Unless the entire video from the CBS chopper is released unedited, questions will abound.
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Because it was a secret test? The more I look into it, I think it really is a contrail. Contrails at dusk with the proper lighting and atmospheric conditions look spectacular.
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
if you watch the vid it's definitely a rocket of some kind. There is visible flame.
No jet.
Nah, it's the sun reflecting on the right side/underside of a plane. There's plenty of photos of sunset jet contrails that look identical to Mondays suspect contrail.
I'm really glad you are reevaluating your opinion. I put the vid through some real close analysis and I feel there was definite flame exhaust as in rocket.
Because it was a secret test? The more I look into it, I think it really is a contrail. Contrails at dusk with the proper lighting and atmospheric conditions look spectacular.
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
if you watch the vid it's definitely a rocket of some kind. There is visible flame.
No jet.
Nah, it's the sun reflecting on the right side/underside of a plane. There's plenty of photos of sunset jet contrails that look identical to Mondays suspect contrail.
I'm really glad you are reevaluating your opinion. I put the vid through some real close analysis and I feel there was definite flame exhaust as in rocket.
Question. With all the cell phone cameras, etc. how would a large rocket go unnoticed by anyone else? Large city, hundreds of thousands of people within sight, yet no one witnessed it? Seems like an angle perception game. Ever notice that David Blaine makes sure people stand behind him when he levitates?
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JHZR2
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Apparently one went up around Atlanta too... Good thing I had my iPhone to capture this super secret stuff... Lol
You serious JH? Or is that just a contrail???
Now everyone is seeing missiles!
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpps/news/anothe...111-fc_10573468
Now everyone is seeing missiles!
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpps/news/anothe...111-fc_10573468
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I put the vid through some real close analysis and I feel there was definite flame exhaust as in rocket.
we noticed the same thing.
"Nothing to see here! Please disperse!"
I put the vid through some real close analysis and I feel there was definite flame exhaust as in rocket.
we noticed the same thing.
"Nothing to see here! Please disperse!"
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/gallery?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7776159&photo=1
It's all speculation at this point. The original video clip to me looks like a rocket or a missile. Then, after 2 days, they spliced in more video of a plane flying overhead! Then some guys pictures come out and obviously look like a plane. I don't understand why CBS won't air the entire unedited clip.
It's all speculation at this point. The original video clip to me looks like a rocket or a missile. Then, after 2 days, they spliced in more video of a plane flying overhead! Then some guys pictures come out and obviously look like a plane. I don't understand why CBS won't air the entire unedited clip.
It's a plane fellas. The pilot of the helicopter and the cameraman who videotaped it said they watched it for 10 minutes.
That's one slooooooooooow missile.
That's one slooooooooooow missile.
JHZR2
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
You serious JH? Or is that just a contrail???
Serious? That was taken from the train between the rental car and the terminal at ATL airport this morning, on my iphone. It is copyrighted by me so nobody can use it without paying me a royalty of $10000 per use.
It is my art. And Im as sure of what it is as anyone is sure of what any of these are. There was no jet plane at the end, and it did orient true vertical.
...likely a 747 taking off and getting altitude/speed quick, the plane was gone but the vapors arent... and the optical illusion makes them look vertical when actually it was the non-stop to LAX or Heathrow or Tokyo or who knows where...
You serious JH? Or is that just a contrail???
Serious? That was taken from the train between the rental car and the terminal at ATL airport this morning, on my iphone. It is copyrighted by me so nobody can use it without paying me a royalty of $10000 per use.
It is my art. And Im as sure of what it is as anyone is sure of what any of these are. There was no jet plane at the end, and it did orient true vertical.
...likely a 747 taking off and getting altitude/speed quick, the plane was gone but the vapors arent... and the optical illusion makes them look vertical when actually it was the non-stop to LAX or Heathrow or Tokyo or who knows where...
I have looked at the pics. I spent much of my childhood next door to a major NATO base that began its life in the 50s as US owned early response base when the cold war was just beginning: it housed squadrons of US interceptors that formed part of the US strategic response to potential inbound long range bombers coming across the Atlantic, as well as serving as a refueling point and ordinance storage depot for long range bombers and Hercules transport aircraft (it also possessed one of the longest runways on the eastern seaboard meaning that if anything could become airborn or land on a runway, the base could host it even if only during transit). As a kid, about 30 years ago and during more relaxed times on the general international scene, I still have very fond memories of a piggy backed Space Shuttle doing a stop over there, and the US bodies responsible for both the Shuttle and its security, allowing our school onto the runway for a closeup circuit of the parked transport jet with the shuttle mounted on top, via our school buses.
This was an area of the province obtained by the US from Churchill as part of the WWII land-lease agreement, when we at that time under British colonial rule and had not yet joined Canada with confederation; when we did, in 1949, part of the package included that agreement remain in effect for the duration negotiated between Roosevelt and Churchill.
It was also used as, time went on, a major international NATO training base - mostly, but not limited to, low level flight training exercises.
Long story short, between that and our regular annual airshows - which played host to all manner of aircraft from various NATO countries, I'm no stranger to contrails in all their glorious forms and the many ways they can be shaded and colored by different ambient lighting and ground perspectives. And the photos I've seen so far look nothing like any kind of contrail to me. Whatever produced that tail we are seeing, which I'm not going to speculate on, it was not the result of any manner of aircraft contrail. That's just pure bunk.
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This was an area of the province obtained by the US from Churchill as part of the WWII land-lease agreement, when we at that time under British colonial rule and had not yet joined Canada with confederation; when we did, in 1949, part of the package included that agreement remain in effect for the duration negotiated between Roosevelt and Churchill.
It was also used as, time went on, a major international NATO training base - mostly, but not limited to, low level flight training exercises.
Long story short, between that and our regular annual airshows - which played host to all manner of aircraft from various NATO countries, I'm no stranger to contrails in all their glorious forms and the many ways they can be shaded and colored by different ambient lighting and ground perspectives. And the photos I've seen so far look nothing like any kind of contrail to me. Whatever produced that tail we are seeing, which I'm not going to speculate on, it was not the result of any manner of aircraft contrail. That's just pure bunk.
-Spyder
Originally Posted By: Vizzy
No doubt that contrail pattern is most certainly a missle of some kind....
I get a kick out of those posting here that would take our guvmints word for ANYTHING at all today!
Lies, lies, and more complete lies!
No doubt that contrail pattern is most certainly a missle of some kind....
I get a kick out of those posting here that would take our guvmints word for ANYTHING at all today!
Lies, lies, and more complete lies!
Originally Posted By: Vizzy
I get a kick out of those posting here that would take our guvmints word for ANYTHING at all today!
That's so funny. I was just thinking about what I get a kick out of: people who immediately buy into the worst possible conspiracy theory as soon as it emerges, and then label anyone who disagrees with them as gullible. Life must be very interesting when one's confirmation bias kicks in so early and on so little provocation.
Not that any of this has anything to do with anyone here, though. Right? We're discussing this rationally, looking critically at evidence, and listening to each other instead of ridiculing people who disagree with us.
Right?
I get a kick out of those posting here that would take our guvmints word for ANYTHING at all today!
That's so funny. I was just thinking about what I get a kick out of: people who immediately buy into the worst possible conspiracy theory as soon as it emerges, and then label anyone who disagrees with them as gullible. Life must be very interesting when one's confirmation bias kicks in so early and on so little provocation.
Not that any of this has anything to do with anyone here, though. Right? We're discussing this rationally, looking critically at evidence, and listening to each other instead of ridiculing people who disagree with us.
Right?
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
It's a plane fellas. The pilot of the helicopter and the cameraman who videotaped it said they watched it for 10 minutes.
That's one slooooooooooow missile.
Hmmmmmmm, I've now seen a few videos of Minuteman II tests and they sure look similar to the LA thing, and in fact, on of the videos on Youtube, the ICBM is in fact visible for 10 minutes because it's traveling at a 45 degree angle away from the camera.
It's a plane fellas. The pilot of the helicopter and the cameraman who videotaped it said they watched it for 10 minutes.
That's one slooooooooooow missile.
Hmmmmmmm, I've now seen a few videos of Minuteman II tests and they sure look similar to the LA thing, and in fact, on of the videos on Youtube, the ICBM is in fact visible for 10 minutes because it's traveling at a 45 degree angle away from the camera.
Well,when the g-ment says something,especially in this type of situation,a person should know that they are not going to actually tell us what is happening.
If this was a missile from another country,the g-ment isnt going to have a news conference and say that country X has shot a missile a few miles off the coast of California,that just isnt going to happen.They will only own up to something when others have proof of it and they cant deny it.
If this was something from our military,they're not going to say anything either,especailly if it is something new that is being tested.
If this was a missile from another country,the g-ment isnt going to have a news conference and say that country X has shot a missile a few miles off the coast of California,that just isnt going to happen.They will only own up to something when others have proof of it and they cant deny it.
If this was something from our military,they're not going to say anything either,especailly if it is something new that is being tested.
The fact that someone is aware enough to suggest that the government could possibly obfuscate the issue in no way indicates they are 'conspiracy theorists'.
I would call their judgement astute. There are many well documented cases of the government blowing smoke up our asses!
I would call their judgement astute. There are many well documented cases of the government blowing smoke up our asses!
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