Sweet - Unknown potential ICBM launched

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Originally Posted By: Al

Did anyone call China to see if they still exist??


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Good explanation: the launch was us saying downgrade me to an A+, I'll show you A+, check my aim, and next time it will be real.

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/11/09/chinese-credit-rater-downgrades-us/
 
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Live chat - Fox News, Jonathon Hunt confirms his military sources say it was in fact a ballistic missile, a "large one".

You guys concerned about your motor oil choice currently?
 
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
No one will listen to me regarding this and most other "rocket launches", and that might as well be the best thing to happen but, these are NOT rockets. I've been paying close attn to this op since I really started taking it seriously in '06 and that my friends, is an aerosol dump. It has nothing to do with defense (other than military execution), but instead climate modification.

Do you Art Bell, George Noory Coast to Coast much??
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

Any Black Helocopters or people from the center of the earth accompany it??

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
It's China. They've come to collect on our debt.

Did anyone call China to see if they still exist??


I received a call from my son In Shanghai this morning, so at least that part of China still exists.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Live chat - Fox News, Jonathon Hunt confirms his military sources say it was in fact a ballistic missile, a "large one".

You guys concerned about your motor oil choice currently?


Agreed.
 
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Originally Posted By: tinmanSC

Extrodinary claims require extordinary proof. The "chemtrail" crowd makes lots of claims........



Do some basic research. The German Government has admitted they conduct geo-engineering via aircraft spraying.

China is well known for doing this!

The documents relating to the US government's potential geo-engineering operations are out there if you wish to find them. The government has discussed this for many decades. Katie Couric won't tell you though, that's for sure.

I'm not saying the real coocky chemtrail conspiracy is real (like secret agents putting barium salts and aluminum in jet fuel bound for airliners!) are, but it's a 100% fact that governments have admitted they spray chemicals from aircraft to alter the atmosphere.
 
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: JHZR2


If it was a terrorist practicing shooting a shoulder fired device, would that have gone so far and created such a trace behind it?

Obviously seems bigger than a hobby rocket...


It looks like it was a medium to large sized missle or rocket, potentially an ICBM, launched from a submarine.
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So you've seen lots of medium to large size rockets/missles shot from submarines to compare? Listenting to a guy interviewed by a news station trying to sell advertising is not good enough basis at this time, despite his credentials...
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: JHZR2


If it was a terrorist practicing shooting a shoulder fired device, would that have gone so far and created such a trace behind it?

Obviously seems bigger than a hobby rocket...


It looks like it was a medium to large sized missle or rocket, potentially an ICBM, launched from a submarine.
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So you've seen lots of medium to large size rockets/missles shot from submarines to compare? Listenting to a guy interviewed by a news station trying to sell advertising is not good enough basis at this time, despite his credentials...


I'm saying that's what MSM news sources told them.

My guess is it's a plane with a big contrail, and the lighting and perspective were so perfect at that instant, it looked like a missile.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Live chat - Fox News, Jonathon Hunt confirms his military sources say it was in fact a ballistic missile, a "large one".

You guys concerned about your motor oil choice currently?


Did they confirm whose it is?

Given the fuel cell and stirling powered subs out there, if sub launch is capable by others, why not sneak in and let one off in a safe direction.

Didnt a Chinese sub pop up next to a carrier a few years ago?

They are just signaling "ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, we've stolen your technology"
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Live chat - Fox News, Jonathon Hunt confirms his military sources say it was in fact a ballistic missile, a "large one".

You guys concerned about your motor oil choice currently?


Did they confirm whose it is?

Given the fuel cell and stirling powered subs out there, if sub launch is capable by others, why not sneak in and let one off in a safe direction.

Didnt a Chinese sub pop up next to a carrier a few years ago?

They are just signaling "ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, we've stolen your technology"


http://www.rense.com/politics5/stealthmiss.htm

The media isn't really saying squat, only that our military says it wasn't them!
 
An important thing I've learned over the past four years regarding these things is this: if you have seen aerosol operations/"persistent chemtrails" complete with their after effects and still try to tell yourself "persistent contrails, ice crystals", then I'm sorry, any issues of this magnitude are NOT for you. I can respect that. I must.


Originally Posted By: Samilcar
Swamp gas.
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Originally Posted By: Samilcar
Swamp gas.




No, it's a weather balloon...
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40087187/ns/us_news-security/

A jetliner with a "spectacular contrail"?
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They must have had the fuel mix all messed up.
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Seriously huh! Speaking of which, I saw a jet today that was apparently cruising with 'no engines' for a few hundred miles, only to fire them up mid-flight strategically over Toronto, leaving a long, dense "spectacular contrail" that remained intact for at least 45 minutes afterwards before starting to appreciably dissipate. No surprise, but a nice daily reminder the program is alive and well.
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Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
No one will listen to me regarding this and most other "rocket launches"

There is probably a good reason for that.

Extrodinary claims require extordinary proof. The "chemtrail" crowd makes lots of claims........

I think Prince (as in, The Artist Formally Known As) is a big "chemtrailer" too. To be honest, it's a fascinating theory as long as you don't take it too seriously.


Of course. Because why would any military faction care about influencing or controlling the largest forces on the planet, when they can screw around with little rockets and missiles like cavemen. Why bother with very advanced energy weapons and forces of nature that can distress, destroy an enemy and their economy and infrastructure without the intent even occurring to them, when you can limit yourself to explosive firepower that anyone can identify for retaliation? Heck, why even think like a military when they can operate on a very limited civilian level of understanding that the only weapons are ones that go bang?
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Rockets and missiles continue to be developed, but it's all a joke. Just a complete joke. It's all for show and good measure. It gives our men and women something to play with in 3rd world countries and sell to our primitive enemies (whoops... scratch that last part)

The real technologies held by these institutions will make civilians' head explode. Things we can only entertain in the realm of science fiction. We've had gravitic propulsion since WW2. Of course at the time, they couldn't figure out how to launch projectiles from the crafts through the actual field driving it. Fast fwd to today, and those things are all taken care of and then some. So much so, that we can use these craft to place aerosols basically anywhere we want. (and travel through space, but hey... let's imagine Soyuz is cutting edge) UFO sightings? I'll say most of them are our own. But sometimes, for most people, it's best not to think about any of that and just switch on Discovery Channel
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Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
No one will listen to me regarding this and most other "rocket launches", and that might as well be the best thing to happen but, these are NOT rockets. I've been paying close attn to this op since I really started taking it seriously in '06 and that my friends, is an aerosol dump. It has nothing to do with defense (other than military execution), but instead climate modification.

Do you Art Bell, George Noory Coast to Coast much??
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

Any Black Helocopters or people from the center of the earth accompany it??

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
It's China. They've come to collect on our debt.

Did anyone call China to see if they still exist??


Oh sure, while not a regular listener, I've heard that show address these issues. It's good to get the gears turning for people who are new to anything like this, but they and some others will never get into any type of detail past a certain point.

If an individual wants to know something, they'll have to go at it themselves. Most conspiracy theories are not gospel, but mere hints. The ones with merit should be considered as "how would a civilian explain a huge black operation that's bigger than their life, in their own words". It usually ends up sounding wild and fantastical, hard to describe and incredulous. This works great for the conspirators, as the lay man haplessly trips over his own thoughts with a few elements of truth and no way to contextualize it- leading other lay people to disbelieve them right off the bat. Speaking of conspiracies inherently either a)inspires investigation b)form a bandwagon for well-meaning, ill-informed people to jump onto or c)polarize one to denial by appearing so outlandish to one's current mindset that any chance of comfort for them lies in denial only. b) is for impressionable hippies a)is really the only way to go, but will be an exersize of futility if combined with c), as no matter what, if you're looking for the result of disproof, you'll allow anything (like swamp gas, weather balloons, rich kerosene mixtures melting steel in less than an hour and 'mea culpa' rocket test admissions) to qualify as such.
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Why didn't the military scramble jets for a closer look ?



Because it was a secret test? The more I look into it, I think it really is a contrail. Contrails at dusk with the proper lighting and atmospheric conditions look spectacular.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Because it was a secret test?

If this is true, I'd love to meet the guy who thought of doing it that way.
 
Fella, two years ago people in Atlantic Canada reported this same phenomenon over the ocean. I remember that case well, and the poor people were calling it a "UFO". Of course it's not, it is the exact same style of aerosol chemtrail dump seen today over the Pacific. Given the nature of metallic aerosols, they reflect light well when struck at a certain angle, and they appear opaque (before dissipating) when struck from behind with the sun's light. The Pacific one happened at 5pm, this Atlantic one happened shortly before dawn. Notice the similarity of the spray pattern and manner of dissipation. Apparently traveling from West to East in both instances, and given the extreme elevation and considering they follow the curvature of the Earth, it gives the illusion of "launching" from the West Coast's ground perspective, and "Diving downward" from the East Coast's ground perspective. As well, the rising sun is above the East Coast incident, making it appear black (it's really the undissipated metallic aerosol's opacity, it must look brilliant from space due to the reflectivity), and the opposite effect in the Pacific; sun below, appears brilliant from the ground, opaque from above.

http://www.videonewslive.com/view/154810/ufo_spotted_in_canada

*this is the only reference I could find in short order of the 2008 event. Certainly these are not the isolated incidents, but people only notice when someone screws up on the black op end like pushing the envelope & getting too excited and not waiting until total nightfall at their elevation, or dumping too late before dawn.
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