Spain to dismantle over 30% of wind turbines in next 5 years

😂 , a false narrative that is sold to whatever sucker believes it…

These guys are save the fish 🐠 happy and don’t buy it:

There was a spike in whales washing up on beaches dead last year and of course the windmills kill many birds but the article says "There are no known links between recent large whale mortalities and ongoing offshore wind surveys."....I guess we have to believe that government agency.
 
I know you make reasonable posts Mr. Overkill, it's just some folks that make overarching statements about rapidly evolving technology.
Fair, I think that's an accurate summation.
BTW your EROEI chart is backwards from anything else I've seen, where the Y axis is cost based. Lowest EROEI cost was on the far left in the late 1800s/early 1900s where the oil was basically shooting out of the ground.
Don't think cost is factored in, it's simply energy in for energy out. Uranium is 20,000x more energy dense than coal/gas/oil.
 
Don't think cost is factored in, it's simply energy in for energy out. Uranium is 20,000x more energy dense than coal/gas/oil.
Yes, there is no energy source as abundant that's as easily available to us as a species and a planet. So how do we get past the construction costs?
 
Yes, there is no energy source as abundant that's as easily available to us as a species and a planet. So how do we get past the construction costs?
Expedited permitting, standardized design. That will drive the cost down, that's why China has settled on the Hualong One for most of their builds now, it will be the least expensive to build if it isn't already. We saw a bit of this in the UAE with Barakah, using a standardized and mature Korean design. That doesn't mean other novel designs won't be pursued, but in terms of large capacity builds, "this is the way". India is very much doing the same thing with their new CANDU-derived 700MWe units.

Problem in many parts of the West is that the market system doesn't encourage the construction of high CAPEX low OPEX sources, and this is made worse through perversion of the market by REC's and other schemes. Somebody like TVA would be better positioned to do a new build than say STP. France just re-nationalized EDF to build 16 new units, while the UK is floundering with China's private financing of the EPR's at HPC proving problematic. Quebec would be in the same boat with new build hydro if they weren't publicly owned and vertically integrated, though they will have other issues, such as indigenous land rights.

Also, oddly, it's not really the cost, though cost is obviously an issue. The amount of money pushed around through various subsidy schemes is incredible, but, because it's so spread-out, it avoids the finger pointing inherent with the concentration of it at projects like Vogtle, where the concentration of capital coupled with the overruns on both time and budget painted it with a huge target, and rightly so.

Realistic pricing is another thing. You say a plant is going to be $12 billion and then it's $30 billion, that's going to (rightly) prompt outrage. On the other hand, If you say it's $25 billion and it's on budget or below budget, while you still may get some that balk at the price, you won't suffer the same outrage. We learned this with our refurbs here in Ontario, set the budget big enough that you can look competent, being on-time and on-budget, rather than trying to lowball with an unrealistic figure and then looking like an idiot, which also garners voter backlash.
 
Meanwhile Permian breakevens are sub-$30 to max $60 and WTI is about to stay over about $75 for a good bit… all while gas production tops 14 Bcf/d…

GORs and ADNG are only rising and the US is going to be flush with cheap natural gas for a very long time. Alternatives are going to face challenging headwinds competing.
 
And why are we not capturing the “waste heat” in cooler months to harness that energy for residential or commercial heating?

In the case of Palo Verde, it's not practical. District heating must be incorporated into a city's design from the early stages in order to be viable, the heat source must be local to the buildings, and the necessity is largely driven by the local climate. In Arizona, winters are short and the winter climate is very mild. So mild that heat pumps are commonly used for winter heating. Natural gas is the second most common source of heat, and electrical resistance heating is a distant third. There is no district heating as it isn't cost effective given the mild climate. In any case, Palo Verde is located too far from the Phoenix metro area.
 
They're not even close. Oil magnate, and multi billionaire energy expert and consultant T. Boone Pickens spent years trying to develop, "The Pickens Plan".

In it he included everything, from the cost of purchasing the land, to the wind turbine cost themselves, installation costs, infrastructure requirements along with all associated expenses, and longevity of the units themselves. (Wind turbine manufacturer Siemens worked with him).

Also the cost of maintenance was taken into account, along with employee salary cost to run the whole thing. Another thing that he carefully studied, was profitability had to take into account the cost of oil.

If the price of oil went down, it ate right into any profits that might be realized by wind production. By making wind even more expensive in comparison to fossil fuel produced power.... Which there is already plenty of.

And OPEC could easily control the price of oil, if they felt the slightest bit threatened by wind. And after everything was taken into account, he determined it could not be run at a profit, and the entire project was abandoned.
Of course no one backed his findings up because they did not want to accept what he figured out. Ever notice also how certain media outlets portrayed him as a near kook or an insane-fossile fuel backing freak. So sad. Instead of the right folks trying to work with him , they slandered him and blew him off. Time and again thru history especially in certain industries this was done when a group teamed against an independant innovater to slander , steal or destroy their ideas that did not conform to group think.
 
Yeah, the anti-renewable bent of this forum is tiresome. People have their positions pretty much staked out and just pick at their non-preferred solutions to (insert energy use here).

Replacing existing windmill blades with more efficient windmill blades? Whoda thunk it.....

Too many people are either for or against renewables for political, emotional, or quasi-religious reasons. They cherry pick "facts" to support their POV.

If renewables are judged solely on their merits using completely objective scientific metrics and true factual data, the results are this: Wind is completely non-viable for a variety of reasons. These include economic and environmental reasons.

Solar is also non-viable at this time. The concept itself IS sound, provided the solar arrays are as close as possible to the point of use and mounted on an existing structure. However, the energy intensiveness of solar cell manufacture (mainly using fossil fuel energy), the cells' deterioration and limited useful life span, high cost, and lack of practical, sustainable, environmentally sound and cost effective energy storage to overcome its intermittent output are nails in the solar coffin. The problems listed in the previous sentence also apply to wind, but wind has additional problems which cannot be solved with any technological advancements.

Geothermal power is usable, but the places on the planet where it is available are limited. Energy yield per area is also relatively low in most places which makes it impractical for large scale electricity generation. Most geothermal is used for heating. Thats still a good thing, as every BTU of heat derived from geothermal is a BTU that doesnt have to be generated by the combustion of fossil fuel.

Speaking of combustion, biomass is another non-starter. It has its uses on small scales, but it will never be able to replace fossil energy. There are biofuel methods using algae that could replace liquid fossil fuels, but the algae farms would cover an enormous amount of land. And a high yield heat source would be needed to process the resulting oil into synthetic crude. That pretty much means nuclear power. However, on paper it could conceivably replace petroleum for transportation and chemical industry uses. It would be a heck of a lot better than electric cars using lithium-based battery technologies. Or any known battery technology, for that matter.

That brings us to the sole viable renewable energy source. One which has been used for thousands of years, AAMOF: hydro. Hydropower is actually sustainable, cost effective, and mostly ecologically sound. The last can be debated, and there is some ecological harm caused by damming a river. The amount of harm depends on how the un-dammed river was used by wildlife. A river used by salmon to spawn would be devastating to the fish if it were dammed., for example. The fact that water released from a reservoir is often colder than the river water before damming is also a problem. So is erosion. OTOH, controlling flooding is a positive aspect for humans, along with energy generation. Not to mention having the reservoir also act as a water source for drinking and agriculture. Many reservoirs become habitats for other types of aquatic life and waterfowl, and even become water sources for local land wildlife. So, hydro is a mixed bag. But for sustained renewable energy production and long term minimal environmental harm, its about as good as it gets. Which explains why its been used for millenia for powering simple machines and in modern times for electrical generation.

No doubt many on here will not like what I have said and will strongly disagree, and thats fine. If you're one of those people, I suggest you objectively and dispassionately look at ALL of the data. Don't just cherry pick what supports your beliefs. Look at all of the data. Then, make a rational, objective, scientific analysis. If you do, you will come to the same conclusions as I did. Conclusions which many, many respected scientists WITHOUT agendas have also come to. Remember, you cannot identify a problem unless you do your analysis factually and objectively. Nor can you work towards a solution without objectivity.
 
Too many people are either for or against renewables for political, emotional, or quasi-religious reasons. They cherry pick "facts" to support their POV.

If renewables are judged solely on their merits using completely objective scientific metrics and true factual data, the results are this: Wind is completely non-viable for a variety of reasons. These include economic and environmental reasons.

Solar is also non-viable at this time. The concept itself IS sound, provided the solar arrays are as close as possible to the point of use and mounted on an existing structure. However, the energy intensiveness of solar cell manufacture (mainly using fossil fuel energy), the cells' deterioration and limited useful life span, high cost, and lack of practical, sustainable, environmentally sound and cost effective energy storage to overcome its intermittent output are nails in the solar coffin. The problems listed in the previous sentence also apply to wind, but wind has additional problems which cannot be solved with any technological advancements.

Geothermal power is usable, but the places on the planet where it is available are limited. Energy yield per area is also relatively low in most places which makes it impractical for large scale electricity generation. Most geothermal is used for heating. Thats still a good thing, as every BTU of heat derived from geothermal is a BTU that doesnt have to be generated by the combustion of fossil fuel.

Speaking of combustion, biomass is another non-starter. It has its uses on small scales, but it will never be able to replace fossil energy. There are biofuel methods using algae that could replace liquid fossil fuels, but the algae farms would cover an enormous amount of land. And a high yield heat source would be needed to process the resulting oil into synthetic crude. That pretty much means nuclear power. However, on paper it could conceivably replace petroleum for transportation and chemical industry uses. It would be a heck of a lot better than electric cars using lithium-based battery technologies. Or any known battery technology, for that matter.

That brings us to the sole viable renewable energy source. One which has been used for thousands of years, AAMOF: hydro. Hydropower is actually sustainable, cost effective, and mostly ecologically sound. The last can be debated, and there is some ecological harm caused by damming a river. The amount of harm depends on how the un-dammed river was used by wildlife. A river used by salmon to spawn would be devastating to the fish if it were dammed., for example. The fact that water released from a reservoir is often colder than the river water before damming is also a problem. So is erosion. OTOH, controlling flooding is a positive aspect for humans, along with energy generation. Not to mention having the reservoir also act as a water source for drinking and agriculture. Many reservoirs become habitats for other types of aquatic life and waterfowl, and even become water sources for local land wildlife. So, hydro is a mixed bag. But for sustained renewable energy production and long term minimal environmental harm, its about as good as it gets. Which explains why its been used for millenia for powering simple machines and in modern times for electrical generation.

No doubt many on here will not like what I have said and will strongly disagree, and thats fine. If you're one of those people, I suggest you objectively and dispassionately look at ALL of the data. Don't just cherry pick what supports your beliefs. Look at all of the data. Then, make a rational, objective, scientific analysis. If you do, you will come to the same conclusions as I did. Conclusions which many, many respected scientists WITHOUT agendas have also come to. Remember, you cannot identify a problem unless you do your analysis factually and objectively. Nor can you work towards a solution without objectivity.
Seems hydroelectricity requires hydrostatic pressure - which requires elevation - so many areas lack the energy driven by elevation and/or contours to provide water column height …
 
Yeah, I failed to mention that most areas that are suitable for hydro have already been exploited. There isn't much left in the way of rivers to dam for energy generation.

Also, electrical generation using hydro takes a lot of water. The Grand Coulee dam is the largest electrical generating installation in the US by installed capacity. However, its actual yearly capacity is not that great. Many, many nuclear, coal, and gas plants have a higher yearly generating capacity.
 
Too many people are either for or against renewables for political, emotional, or quasi-religious reasons. They cherry pick "facts" to support their POV.

If renewables are judged solely on their merits using completely objective scientific metrics and true factual data, the results are this: Wind is completely non-viable for a variety of reasons. These include economic and environmental reasons.
Maybe far less viable than most people think, yes. But I don’t think it’s a worthless tech. There are places on the planet, particularly where wind blows often, where it might make sense to add some capacity. It’ll never be enough power to replace any other source though.

Solar is also non-viable at this time. The concept itself IS sound, provided the solar arrays are as close as possible to the point of use and mounted on an existing structure. However, the energy intensiveness of solar cell manufacture (mainly using fossil fuel energy), the cells' deterioration and limited useful life span, high cost, and lack of practical, sustainable, environmentally sound and cost effective energy storage to overcome its intermittent output are nails in the solar coffin. The problems listed in the previous sentence also apply to wind, but wind has additional problems which cannot be solved with any technological advancements.
This gets down to opinion on what “viable” is. If it means completely replacing fossil fuels, I agree; solar is incapable. However, I do think solar will continue to be implemented in a distributed network of home systems. I also don’t think the environmental concerns are going to affect it much.

I actually suspect home battery storage technology to progress to a point where solar + storage makes serious economic sense, at least in sunnier parts of the world.

Geothermal power is usable, but the places on the planet where it is available are limited. Energy yield per area is also relatively low in most places which makes it impractical for large scale electricity generation. Most geothermal is used for heating. Thats still a good thing, as every BTU of heat derived from geothermal is a BTU that doesnt have to be generated by the combustion of fossil fuel.
Its great if you live in Iceland lol.

Speaking of combustion, biomass is another non-starter. It has its uses on small scales, but it will never be able to replace fossil energy. There are biofuel methods using algae that could replace liquid fossil fuels, but the algae farms would cover an enormous amount of land. And a high yield heat source would be needed to process the resulting oil into synthetic crude.
Agreed.

That pretty much means nuclear power. However, on paper it could conceivably replace petroleum for transportation and chemical industry uses. It would be a heck of a lot better than electric cars using lithium-based battery technologies. Or any known battery technology, for that matter.
Nuclear makes great sense in tectonically quiescent places with stable, first-world geopolitics and, ideally, low water tables.

It’s not as optimal once we start making exceptions to any of those rules. Russia/Ukraine just had a bit of a geopolitical scare. Nations like Iran and North Korea probably shouldn’t have plutonium. Fukushima was a failure of a geopolitically-stable first world nation to properly engineer for the location. Same for Diablo Canyon, which thankfully hasn’t yet had a disaster.

On the other hand, in places like Canada, France, the great plains of the US, Australia, and others it can make great sense, provided there’s a sensible (I.e., French) method of dealing with the waste. Biased individuals often talk about the waste issues with solar and ignore them with nuclear and vice versa.

That brings us to the sole viable renewable energy source. One which has been used for thousands of years, AAMOF: hydro. Hydropower is actually sustainable, cost effective, and mostly ecologically sound. The last can be debated, and there is some ecological harm caused by damming a river. The amount of harm depends on how the un-dammed river was used by wildlife. A river used by salmon to spawn would be devastating to the fish if it were dammed., for example. The fact that water released from a reservoir is often colder than the river water before damming is also a problem. So is erosion. OTOH, controlling flooding is a positive aspect for humans, along with energy generation. Not to mention having the reservoir also act as a water source for drinking and agriculture. Many reservoirs become habitats for other types of aquatic life and waterfowl, and even become water sources for local land wildlife. So, hydro is a mixed bag. But for sustained renewable energy production and long term minimal environmental harm, it’s about as good as it gets. Which explains why its been used for millenia for powering simple machines and in modern times for electrical generation.
Hydro is, overall, a fantastic energy source. I agree. However, like you said, its potential is mostly already tapped out in the US. I seem to recall a paper from a few years ago where an agency used GIS software to find dams which 1) lacked a power generation facility, and 2) had enough head for some minimum threshold of power generation. Adding power generation to these existing dams seems like a no brainer to me.

I will elaborate some more on the downsides of dams: like nuclear, they can be big geopolitical and disaster liabilities. We saw such a disaster in Ukraine recently. We are seeing a conflict develop between Ethiopia and Egypt due to Ethiopia’s damming activities. China’s Three Gorges dam is (thankfully) a major weak point in its geopolitical posturing against Taiwan. Dams can pose serious safety threats to human life in the events of war or natural disasters. Hydro makes great sense in places like Norway.

On the environmental side, dams ruin riparian ecosystems. They block sediment from flowing downstream and interrupt flooding cycles which restore nutrients and sediments in areas that typically require them. This causes soil depletion and ground subsidence. Sediment also gradually collects behind dams and fills in reservoirs over time, posing serious engineering problems after several decades of operation. The water expelled downstream from dams is sediment-free and highly erosive, leading to increased downstream erosion.

Newer technologies like run-of-river, wave-float systems, etc. may have some limited utility to add some capacity, especially in third world places. Overall it’s the best source of clean energy.
 
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Too many people are either for or against renewables for political, emotional, or quasi-religious reasons. They cherry pick "facts" to support their POV.

If renewables are judged solely on their merits using completely objective scientific metrics and true factual data, the results are this: Wind is completely non-viable for a variety of reasons. These include economic and environmental reasons.

Solar is also non-viable at this time. The concept itself IS sound, provided the solar arrays are as close as possible to the point of use and mounted on an existing structure. However, the energy intensiveness of solar cell manufacture (mainly using fossil fuel energy), the cells' deterioration and limited useful life span, high cost, and lack of practical, sustainable, environmentally sound and cost effective energy storage to overcome its intermittent output are nails in the solar coffin. The problems listed in the previous sentence also apply to wind, but wind has additional problems which cannot be solved with any technological advancements.

Geothermal power is usable, but the places on the planet where it is available are limited. Energy yield per area is also relatively low in most places which makes it impractical for large scale electricity generation. Most geothermal is used for heating. Thats still a good thing, as every BTU of heat derived from geothermal is a BTU that doesnt have to be generated by the combustion of fossil fuel.

Speaking of combustion, biomass is another non-starter. It has its uses on small scales, but it will never be able to replace fossil energy. There are biofuel methods using algae that could replace liquid fossil fuels, but the algae farms would cover an enormous amount of land. And a high yield heat source would be needed to process the resulting oil into synthetic crude. That pretty much means nuclear power. However, on paper it could conceivably replace petroleum for transportation and chemical industry uses. It would be a heck of a lot better than electric cars using lithium-based battery technologies. Or any known battery technology, for that matter.

That brings us to the sole viable renewable energy source. One which has been used for thousands of years, AAMOF: hydro. Hydropower is actually sustainable, cost effective, and mostly ecologically sound. The last can be debated, and there is some ecological harm caused by damming a river. The amount of harm depends on how the un-dammed river was used by wildlife. A river used by salmon to spawn would be devastating to the fish if it were dammed., for example. The fact that water released from a reservoir is often colder than the river water before damming is also a problem. So is erosion. OTOH, controlling flooding is a positive aspect for humans, along with energy generation. Not to mention having the reservoir also act as a water source for drinking and agriculture. Many reservoirs become habitats for other types of aquatic life and waterfowl, and even become water sources for local land wildlife. So, hydro is a mixed bag. But for sustained renewable energy production and long term minimal environmental harm, its about as good as it gets. Which explains why its been used for millenia for powering simple machines and in modern times for electrical generation.

No doubt many on here will not like what I have said and will strongly disagree, and thats fine. If you're one of those people, I suggest you objectively and dispassionately look at ALL of the data. Don't just cherry pick what supports your beliefs. Look at all of the data. Then, make a rational, objective, scientific analysis. If you do, you will come to the same conclusions as I did. Conclusions which many, many respected scientists WITHOUT agendas have also come to. Remember, you cannot identify a problem unless you do your analysis factually and objectively. Nor can you work towards a solution without objectivity.

The problem is, people cherry pick the science to support their views, and some "science" is produced to support certain viewpoints. A lot of it comes down to carbon, it's much easier to accept the tradeoffs of non-fossil fuel power sources if you believe that carbon in the atmosphere is a problem.

It might be also pointed out that cost is not mentioned in your post, the reason fossil fuels are most commonly extracted and burned is that it's the cheapest method of producing power without consideration of external factors such as sunlight and wind, at least in the developed world where infrastructure for distributing fossil fuels is well developed.

I personally don't view any power source as "renewable". Solar panels have to be replaced, wind turbines have to be replaced, trees have to be regrown, biomass has to be reproduced, hydro is terrible for salmon and rain is insufficient in many areas of the Earth to be reliable for power production in the first place.

I am a nuclear power advocate. We seem to have a hard time getting past the construction costs, but no power source is as abundant in the universe as fission and fusion. Of course I think humans harnessing fusion is a pipe dream, but maybe someday after I'm dead and gone. Disposal of the nuclear waste is somewhat of an issue, but then again, from a layman's perspective, would you rather there be areas you just can't go to where nuclear waste is, or would you rather breathe combusion byproducts all the time? The rocket technology of humans is increasing these days it seems, maybe we can just blast the waste off elsewhere at some point.

There are additional advantages to solar, wind and battery storage in an increasingly politically unstable world, that being the indivdual human being able to control their own production of power. There's no reason you have to hire someone else to put it in, the knowledge is out there, but most people are afraid of working with electricity and getting on their roofs. Easier if you live in the sticks and have land, can just put it at ground level.

Of course, regardless of what it is, it has to be able to get to you...a complete breakdown of civil order worldwide would send us back to the stone ages...
 
I actually suspect home battery storage technology to progress to a point where solar + storage makes serious economic sense, at least in sunnier parts of the world.

Batteries are among the worst ways of storing bulk electrical energy. They are resource and energy intensive to manufacture, contain toxic components, unstable (lithium technology), short lived, and have poor recycleability (except lead acid, which are extremely recycleable thanks to their simple construction and the use of lead for both electrodes). Batteries are one of the biggest problems for engineers of solar powered LEO satellites. The only battery technology that is reliable and long-lived enough for satellites is nickel-hydrogen. They have the drawback of having low energy storage per unit of mass and volume. The fact that they are chosen over other battery technologies for an application where low mass and compact size is so paramount gives you an idea of just how bad other battery technologies really are.

The problem is, people cherry pick the science to support their views, and some "science" is produced to support certain viewpoints. A lot of it comes down to carbon, it's much easier to accept the tradeoffs of non-fossil fuel power sources if you believe that carbon in the atmosphere is a problem.

It might be also pointed out that cost is not mentioned in your post, the reason fossil fuels are most commonly extracted and burned is that it's the cheapest method of producing power without consideration of external factors such as sunlight and wind, at least in the developed world where infrastructure for distributing fossil fuels is well developed.

I personally don't view any power source as "renewable". Solar panels have to be replaced, wind turbines have to be replaced, trees have to be regrown, biomass has to be reproduced, hydro is terrible for salmon and rain is insufficient in many areas of the Earth to be reliable for power production in the first place.

I am a nuclear power advocate. We seem to have a hard time getting past the construction costs, but no power source is as abundant in the universe as fission and fusion. Of course I think humans harnessing fusion is a pipe dream, but maybe someday after I'm dead and gone. Disposal of the nuclear waste is somewhat of an issue, but then again, from a layman's perspective, would you rather there be areas you just can't go to where nuclear waste is, or would you rather breathe combusion byproducts all the time? The rocket technology of humans is increasing these days it seems, maybe we can just blast the waste off elsewhere at some point.

I am also a proponent of nuclear power. I don't believe fusion is that far off. I believe it hasn't been exploited because fossil fuels are too profitable. Well, that and a fusion plant is going to be quite expensive. It will make a fission plant look low-buck by comparison. It has the advantage of ridiculously cheap, virtually inexhaustible fuel and generating only relatively small amounts of low level waste over their lifetimes. Also, because the activated materials decay rapidly, an end-of-life reactor only needs to be mothballed for perhaps 10 years before it can be dismantled and replaced with a new unit. That and refurbishment of the steam, electrical, and thermal management systems will be far cheaper than building a completely new plant.

Geological storage of nuclear waste is well understood and quite safe. Yucca Mountain was halted not because it wasnt safe, but because of purely political reasons born of ignorance. Its the same reason we don't reprocess used fuel. The latter, along with fast fission breeder reactors using both U-238 and Th-232 will be needed to fully replace all electrical generation with nuclear. Not to mention the additional thermal nuclear energy needed to create synthetic hydrocarbon fuels using processes that, one way or the other, remove CO2 from the atmosphere for the carbon source. Whether it is biological using algae or direct CO2 removal from the air, that is the only way of achieving "carbon neutrality" while maintaining the convenience, simplicity, and high energy density of liquid hydrocarbon fuels for most transportation uses.

There are additional advantages to solar, wind and battery storage

See above regarding battery storage of electrical energy. Batteries are an environmental disaster happening in slow motion. As far as I can see, the best small-medium scale storage technology right now is inertial storage. You know, the rapidly rotating flywheel+motor/generator assembly magnetically levitated in a vacuum vessel. They have much lower energy density compared to batteries, and initial cost is higher, but the former is irrelevant for ground-based installations and the latter is offset by the essentially unlimited lifetime.
 
Batteries are among the worst ways of storing bulk electrical energy. They are resource and energy intensive to manufacture, contain toxic components, unstable (lithium technology), short lived, and have poor recycleability (except lead acid, which are extremely recycleable thanks to their simple construction and the use of lead for both electrodes). Batteries are one of the biggest problems for engineers of solar powered LEO satellites. The only battery technology that is reliable and long-lived enough for satellites is nickel-hydrogen. They have the drawback of having low energy storage per unit of mass and volume. The fact that they are chosen over other battery technologies for an application where low mass and compact size is so paramount gives you an idea of just how bad other battery technologies really are.
I suspect solid state, carbon fiber nanotube, sodium ion, or other technologies will eventually come into play in the future. I believe the economics of battery technology progress inevitably means the current downsides will be mitigated.

Geological storage of nuclear waste is well understood and quite safe. Yucca Mountain was halted not because it wasnt safe, but because of purely political reasons born of ignorance.
Yucca Mountain’s storage design goal was a low 10,000 years. However, the waste at Yucca Mountain will remain hazardous to life for 400,000 to 1 million+ years. Yucca Mountain is literally flanked by active normal faults which are stretching Earth’s crust in this location. The hydrologic system at this location is dominated by fractures and faults which transport groundwater quickly. There’s evidence of greater precipitation and higher water tables in the past.

On the true time scales involved, it is actually a pretty bad geological location.
 
Yucca Mountain’s storage design goal was a low 10,000 years. However, the waste at Yucca Mountain will remain hazardous to life for 400,000 to 1 million+ years.

Appreciate your contribution.

How are you defining hazardous? The longest lived actinides are the least dangerous because they have the longest half-lives and it is those decay events that emit radiation. This is why the activity and relative danger of SNF falls off a cliff, as all the dangerous short-lived products decay rapidly.
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How dangerous nuclear waste is to eat as a function of time compared to eating natural uranium ore (dotted line). The various curves show that the toxicity decreases faster if you recycle the waste and burn the very long-lived radionuclides as fuel.

Ingestion is obviously undesirable, but even there, we are already storing "forever toxic" products like arsenic, cyanide and mercury in DGR's similar to the Yucca Mountain concept, which, unlike SNF, don't get less toxic over time. The actinides drive the toxicity (as the chart shows) and at natural uranium levels at 130,000 years, that's a far cry from 400,000 - 1,000,000 years.

Not going to comment on the suitability of the specific Yucca Mountain location, but I am bothered by this idea that is commonly pushed, which is that we will be unable to safely manage a product that gets less dangerous over time, and whose primary danger quite quickly becomes ingestion (you can hold a spent fuel bundle in your hand after a few hundred years) and whose constituents are mostly products already found in nature, while the same consideration and care aren't given to other, considerably more toxic, waste streams, simply because they lack the radiation component. (Not saying that you are pushing that narrative, just mentioning it for the sake of conversation).

As an aside, CANDU fuel is a bit of a different beast, which is why our DGR project is not approved for other fuel types:
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For context, the grade of ore at McArthur River is 6.7%, and the grade at Cigar Lake is 17.21%.
 
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