So...how many are not filling their census forms?

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: MarkC
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
I'm guessing that 80% on here won't send them in.


Maine-iacs are something special. It's almost like some parts of the south magically sprouted way north. I was in central Maine for 3 summers. They appreciated the influx of cash, but we had surely worn out our welcome by Labor Day.

It takes a long time for a ferriner to get cozy with their native neighbors. It may have changed a bit ..but I don't think it was a willful transition if so. The natives may have been overrun by invaders.


There are people "like that" in every state, and in every country, they're not hard to find.


Many seasonal resort places are like that. Cape Cod used to be like that before they made it a suburb of Bastahn. I'm sure it's that way in winter resort places too.

People get territorial about any piece of turf ..be it a church pew or a corner to throw their mat down at a temporary shelter.

However, the "Appalachian"-esque disposition toward things (like government-strangers-etc) may change its accent (not so much in Maine y'all) but its integrity holds true for the entire length ..and then some.

 

[BeanCounter]

Originally Posted By: javacontour
What doesn't make sense to me is why can't I take some number on the form and just fill in the Census on-line?

Since this is only 10 questions, and they are not looking for SSN's, etc, then why not give out the number associated with the bar code and give folks the option to go on-line, enter the number and fill out the census?

This is just a jobs program.

Jobs to mail out the forms.
Jobs to mail out the cards reminding you that either the forms are coming or to get them back in.
Jobs to process the mail, enter the data in the computer, etc.
Jobs to canvas when folks don't send in the data.

It's just a jobs programs.

Why not offer the efficient way to do this by eliminating many of the interim steps for those who will go on-line to fill in the data?

I'll stop now before I go political, LOL.


Wonderful post.

I talked to one of my fellow employees a week or so ago about this. Her father is working for the Census time period. I may be a little off, but as I recall she said he was getting about $20 an hour, he was paid for gas and travel time to and from the location they had to train at, while given free books/material to "learn" and his job is...essentially going to people's homes to ask if they filled out the info or not I think.

Which leads me to my next question:

"WHAT?"

I should have taken my vacation time off to go work this for a few weeks. Holy cow...

 

[BeanCounter]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

However, the "Appalachian"-esque disposition toward things (like government-strangers-etc) may change its accent (not so much in Maine y'all) but its integrity holds true for the entire length ..and then some.


Easy now, pilgrim.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: BeanCounter
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

However, the "Appalachian"-esque disposition toward things (like government-strangers-etc) may change its accent (not so much in Maine y'all) but its integrity holds true for the entire length ..and then some.


Easy now, pilgrim.

I didn't say it was a bad thing

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Really, honestly ?

Why wasn't I made aware of it ?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon

No Sh**

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: andrewg
This thread is a good indicator of where one stands in the political spectrum. You can really tell where ones beliefs seem to lean when reading these posts.
For me? Well, a healthy distrust of the government is a GOOD thing. We should all be careful and scrutinize what we consider the role of government before we freely hand over what ever is asked of us. A census count is fine I suppose....and Constitutional. But questions about race, ethnicity, marriage, living arrangments, etc. are a bit intrusive for me and warrant a 'none of your business' answer in those portions of the census. My opinion...nothing more. One thing I did however find very inapropriate was a follow up postcard uncle sam sent me right after mailing in the census. On it it stated it was REQUIRED BY LAW to fill it out and send it in.....and that if you do not, somebody WILL be coming to your home. That was over the top and rude....considering that I sent it in only two days after I got it. Threats from the government only add more distrust to an already highly corrupt system.
What made the U.S. independent from England? It originally wasn't a bunch of Euro socialist types wanting to create a socialist utopia.

 

[Steve S]

Nobodys busisness what I consider my race to be.

 

[labman]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: MarkC
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
I'm guessing that 80% on here won't send them in.


Maine-iacs are something special. It's almost like some parts of the south magically sprouted way north. I was in central Maine for 3 summers. They appreciated the influx of cash, but we had surely worn out our welcome by Labor Day.

It takes a long time for a ferriner to get cozy with their native neighbors. It may have changed a bit ..but I don't think it was a willful transition if so. The natives may have been overrun by invaders.


There are people "like that" in every state, and in every country, they're not hard to find.


Many seasonal resort places are like that. Cape Cod used to be like that before they made it a suburb of Bastahn. I'm sure it's that way in winter resort places too.

People get territorial about any piece of turf ..be it a church pew or a corner to throw their mat down at a temporary shelter.

However, the "Appalachian"-esque disposition toward things (like government-strangers-etc) may change its accent (not so much in Maine y'all) but its integrity holds true for the entire length ..and then some.


To a degree, certain speech patterns, vocabulary, and attitudes run the full length of the mountains. With my parents growing up in Jefferson County, Pennsylvania, I find things I remember from my boyhood in many locations. The people in central Pennsylvania have much more in common with those in central Virginia than those from Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. Neither has extensive, positive experience with people from Harrisburg, Richmond, or Washington.

 

[Steve S]

I plead the 5th amendment.

 

[greenaccord02]

From wikipedia:

"In Scotland 14,052 people stated that Jedi was their current religion (14,014 "Jedi", 24 "Jedi Other" and 14 "Sith") and 2,733 stated that it was their religion of upbringing (2,682 "Jedi", 36 "Jedi Order" and 15 "The Dark Side")."

I laughed out loud.

 

[Shannow]

Jedi is still not recognised as a religion, nor recieves funding as a result of census taking.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/jedi.asp

 

[Warstud]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
Nobodys busisness what I consider my race to be.


That assures the government that us whites are still the majority.

 

[Popinski]

As a responsible American, I will be filling this form out completely and mailing it in.

 

[MNgopher]

Apparently since I filled my form out and sent it in, answering the extremely probing questions of how many people, name, age, do I own or rent my home, and race, makes me a member of some vast conspiracy. One might be surprised to find my true political leanings, but suffice to say they don't match the assumption proposed by some here. I seem to recall the form I had to fill out for the 2000 census took a lot longer...

All this information is already available in so many different databases and formats that answering these simple questions isn't going to somehow make me less patriotic or influence my level of trust in government.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
I was actually glad for the race question. I filled in my ethnicity and think that it's a great way to gain some form of influence for my ethnic community.


Influence? What do you mean? Handouts? Affirmative Action? If you are an American, great, welcome. If you are something else, then why not go back?

There will be no equality until everyone is equal. Drawing race lines for "influence" or whatever else is a great way to maintain a divide, IMO.

I love learning about other cultures, eating their food, seeing their special days/events/celebrations, etc. but that is by my choice. I have friends that represent most every major ethnic group in the country. And have no problem with that in any way. They are all Americans first.

Let the best person get the job, the most needy get the aid, whatever, but if you're an American, then be an American, not a ________ American.


There is something called 'foreign policy'. When shaping this policy, the input of the local ethnic groups are taken into account. For example, the US has a favorable foreign policy towards Ireland because there is a sizable Irish community in the US. The same goes about Israel and the Jewish community in the US.


Foreign Policy should not take into account local ethnic groups, but rather the needs and position of AMERICANS as a whole. Otherwise, the "ethnics" are nothing more than a form of spy for the other country/government.

And I know that comes across as harsh, and I do not mean to be. I just mean to state that what we do, and what policy is stated has nothing to do with having an accurate population count, and everything to do with representing AMERICANS as a whole. Bowing to specific ethnic groups is not the right thing to do, regardless of what group they are. And that stands for the Irish and the Israelis too.

Using someone's ethnicity to shape favorable policies towards another country means that the people of those ethnicities MAY care more about the well being of the old country than where they are actually citizens and hopefully functional members of society today. In my view, this is not the right way to carry on, especially in light of creating a unified American population, and not just holdouts from another place.

I am German, I have family that lives and thrives in Germany. I do not ask that favorable policy be made in any way to benefit Germany, if it does not make sense to the population of the UNITED STATES first and foremost.

 

[Gary Allan]

in the back ground, the mechanical voice emitted from the speaker barked, "PULL UP! PULL UP! PULL UP!!" as the collision avoidance system saw a threat with continuance of the downward spiral path .....

 

[labman]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Bowing to specific ethnic groups is not the right thing to do, regardless of what group they are.


+1 I agree, but in many cases, the ones that will do it, are the ones that will win the election.

 

[CivicFan]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
I was actually glad for the race question. I filled in my ethnicity and think that it's a great way to gain some form of influence for my ethnic community.


Influence? What do you mean? Handouts? Affirmative Action? If you are an American, great, welcome. If you are something else, then why not go back?

There will be no equality until everyone is equal. Drawing race lines for "influence" or whatever else is a great way to maintain a divide, IMO.

I love learning about other cultures, eating their food, seeing their special days/events/celebrations, etc. but that is by my choice. I have friends that represent most every major ethnic group in the country. And have no problem with that in any way. They are all Americans first.

Let the best person get the job, the most needy get the aid, whatever, but if you're an American, then be an American, not a ________ American.


There is something called 'foreign policy'. When shaping this policy, the input of the local ethnic groups are taken into account. For example, the US has a favorable foreign policy towards Ireland because there is a sizable Irish community in the US. The same goes about Israel and the Jewish community in the US.


Foreign Policy should not take into account local ethnic groups, but rather the needs and position of AMERICANS as a whole. Otherwise, the "ethnics" are nothing more than a form of spy for the other country/government.

And I know that comes across as harsh, and I do not mean to be. I just mean to state that what we do, and what policy is stated has nothing to do with having an accurate population count, and everything to do with representing AMERICANS as a whole. Bowing to specific ethnic groups is not the right thing to do, regardless of what group they are. And that stands for the Irish and the Israelis too.

Using someone's ethnicity to shape favorable policies towards another country means that the people of those ethnicities MAY care more about the well being of the old country than where they are actually citizens and hopefully functional members of society today. In my view, this is not the right way to carry on, especially in light of creating a unified American population, and not just holdouts from another place.

I am German, I have family that lives and thrives in Germany. I do not ask that favorable policy be made in any way to benefit Germany, if it does not make sense to the population of the UNITED STATES first and foremost.


I don't think your view is harsh but it sure is myopic. A lot of the allies are allies precisely for the reason that there are influential ethnic communities acting as intermediaries. Your inference that I am somehow less of an American than you is not only myopic but also dishonest.

 

[brianl703]

If that were true, then they would ask for more than just race, they would ask for ethnicity. As the questions are written, they appear to only care about your ethnicity if you are:

Hispanic or Latino (with subquestions about whether you are Mexican, Puerto Ricon, or Cuban, or some other Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin)

Asian Indian, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Japanese, Vietnamese, Native Hawaiian, Guamanian or Chamorro, Somoan, or "other Asian" or "other Pacific Islander".

Apparently, they aren't interested in finding out how many English, Danish, Swedish, German, Irish, Italian, French, etc. people there are in the USA right now.

 

[andrewg]

Agreed.....they don't care about western european ethnicity or origin. Very good thing to ponder for us pale skined, round eyed folks. I guess they figure those of us with that background are not in need of government programs or money?
I'll take that as a compliment from big brother.