small black particles in new Castrol GTX

[electrolover]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I had some gritty/sandy looking stuff in the bottom of a Valvoline 10W40 5 quart jug one time,and a layer of what looked like craked dried mud at the bottom of some Pennzoil Platinum 5W50 quarts.


That was just the mad cleaning powaz of PP eating the bottle material and piling it on the bottom while it waited to be unleashed on the crud in your engine

Thats almost as bad as m1 sand blasting engines clean with all that iron.

 

[pentode]

Originally Posted By: Donald
I cleaned my computer screen and the particles in your posted picture went away.

No kidding eh? And that was the _best_ pic I managed to take. It definitely made me realize how dirty my screen is too. At any rate, that piece is basically the exact size and shape of a beard stubble hair. It's solid, not gooey. I'd try to get it out but I feel that I should leave it there for the Castrol scientists

 

[pentode]

Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012

Looks a bit dark for fresh oil. I'm thinking someone didn't break the seals on a few bottles when they opened them and suddenly thoughts of a free oil change popped into their head.

I think that's just an effect of the backlighting, the old digital camera, etc. It looked pretty much like the typical Castrol color to me, which seems a bit darker new than, say, Quaker State. Definitely sealed as well- it was a pain peeling that off at -20

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Ahh, foil seal. Got it, you're good then.

 

[demarpaint]

If the bottle was in fact sealed like you said, then probably some of the additives fell out of suspension. Next time give the oil a good shake before pouring it in.

 

[pentode]

Reading through these comments, I just had a funny thought. If this were a jug of milk and I saw some black particles at the bottom, I'd probably strain it through a sock, drink it, and move on. But because it's my car, with all those precious tolerances, I go OCD on it.

Probably says something about me.

 

[TuBon_gRips]

Originally Posted By: pentode
Reading through these comments, I just had a funny thought. If this were a jug of milk and I saw some black particles at the bottom, I'd probably strain it through a sock, drink it, and move on. But because it's my car, with all those precious tolerances, I go OCD on it.

Probably says something about me.


It says as much about the rest of us on BITOG, too.

 

[lexus114]

Your perfectly normal here ^^

 

[tinmanSC]

Originally Posted By: pentode
Reading through these comments, I just had a funny thought. If this were a jug of milk and I saw some black particles at the bottom, I'd probably strain it through a sock, drink it, and move on. But because it's my car, with all those precious tolerances, I go OCD on it.

Probably says something about me.

Welcome to BITOG?

 

[pentode]

Thanks guys, appreciate the reassurance.

I'm gonna run with it and trust that the extra $$ I spend on Toyota filters is worth it!

p.s. glad I'm finally a member- I've been coming to this site for years with all my oil questions and curiosities. I never needed to post anything because the wealth of information here is downright amazing.

 

[TTK]

Don't worry about the -20 C; recently a Russian fella with only a sweat suit on fell off a train in Siberia at -40 C( also -40 F !) and ran 7 Km to the nearest station. you'll be okay!

 

[GSCJR]

I also recently found that in a bottle of GTX. I had to shake it for awhile to free it all up and dumped it into the engine. SFSG.

 

[pentode]

Originally Posted By: GSCJR
I also recently found that in a bottle of GTX. I had to shake it for awhile to free it all up and dumped it into the engine. SFSG.


Lots of interesting responses to my question, and a couple along this same line of thinking... So, at least for some of you guys, you are pretty certain that everything that made it into the bottle belongs in the engine? Are oil packaging processes so reliable that there's really no reason to worry, whatever seems to be in there? Do additives precipitate from oil like this (color, shape, varied size and all)? These are genuine, non-confrontational questions that I've been curious about. I am definitely not an oil chemistry expert, nor have I ever seen the inside of a refinery or an oil bottling/packaging plant. My initial fears were based on the idea that this was some kind of contaminant... dirt, rust, carbon, whatever, that somehow made it into the system.

 

[uart]

I'm guessing that your current cold temperatures may have contributed to some of the additives dropping out of suspension. Solubility definitely drops as temperature is reduced.

Years ago I was told to always shake a new jug of oil fairly well before using it. I just thought everyone did it that way. I'm not even sure if it's still necessary these days, but I do it anyway. Maybe even warming and shaking would be a good idea if you're in -20 degree temperatures.

As others have already mentioned, you're not the first person to see an add-pack falling out of suspension and sitting on the bottom of the jug. I've seen posts (and pictures) here of it happening with various different brands.

 

[MolaKule]

A formulated and blended oil with the proper amount of dispersant should NOT allow any additives to drop out, no matter the temperature.

It could possibly be some small plastic particles from the bottling machinery or even from some new tooling.

Take your own VOA and send it in to Ryan at Blackstone and tell them in the remarks section what you found.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: MolaKule
A formulated and blended oil with the proper amount of dispersant should NOT allow any additives to drop out, no matter the temperature.

It could possibly be some small plastic particles from the bottling machinery or even from some new tooling.

Take your own VOA and send it in to Ryan at Blackstone and tell them in the remarks section what you found.


I saw it with Amsoil SSO as well as Castrol Edge gold bottle. It almost looked like a slight residue for lack of a better word. Is what I saw something different, or is that what additive fallout really looks like? Thanks. I'm not flaming just an honest question.

 

[DinoOil]

Get a prescription for Paxil. Then go find a psychiatrist.





I'm not kidding....

 

[pentode]

Originally Posted By: DinoOil
Get a prescription for Paxil. Then go find a psychiatrist.

I'm not kidding....


Is this directed at me? And if so, by "I'm not kidding" do you mean "I _am_ kidding?"

Felt the need to clarify that.

 

[Zeus103363]

Originally Posted By: DinoOil
Get a prescription for Paxil. Then go find a psychiatrist.





I'm not kidding....



I'll take it! Mabe I will stop worrying why M1 stopped putting the MS-6395 oil spec on the bank of the bottle!

 

[pentode]

Originally Posted By: DinoOil
Get a prescription for Paxil. Then go find a psychiatrist.

I'm not kidding....


Ah, I get it now. Reading through your post history, I can see that it's perfectly normal to worry about a couple drops of coolant on the ground, or a drop of oil on the ground, or oil consumption, or your oil temps, or whatever else is stressing you at the moment.

Anyone else's questions are stupid and pointless. 'Nuf said.