simple solution to the gulf oil spill.
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To implement it, it'll be expensive and logistically impossible. Good luck spreading hay in a body of water to soak up an oil slick the size of Deleware! That would require something like C-130s flying around non-stop dropping hay out the back.
Then, what do you do to clean up the oil soaked hay???
Then, what do you do to clean up the oil soaked hay???
Interesting, although it's one thing to do it in a bowl and another to do it in the ocean... definitely worth considering though.
Considering that BP is pretty much doing NOTHING, to soak up or recover the oil that has been washing up on the beaches. I say buy as much hay as we can get our hands on, spread it out and put some money back in our country for a change. There still is oil on the beaches where the Valdez spilled its load, so let get busy doing something.Standing around watching it spread, and ruin the economy where people need to earn a living is not in anyvbodys best interest.,,
It's illogical to think that there is only one solution to cleaning up the oil slick. I like the sound of just using hay, but I would have to wonder if using vast quantities of hay would cause supply problems for agricultural uses. However, it seems that using hay, especially in areas where the oil is about to beach, would be a lot more effective than other approaches.
The time it's taking for anything to be even started in regards to this is startling.
The time it's taking for anything to be even started in regards to this is startling.
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
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If the slick wasnt so big, it could be a good idea. Wick it up, dry it, gassify it and feed it to power plants. Makes great electricity!
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
Better yet Nuke it!
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
Better yet Nuke it!
Originally Posted By: expat
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
Better yet Nuke it!
I wanted to say that, I really wanted to, but you know how people freak over radioactivity.
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
Better yet Nuke it!
I wanted to say that, I really wanted to, but you know how people freak over radioactivity.
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Originally Posted By: expat
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
Better yet Nuke it!
I wanted to say that, I really wanted to, but you know how people freak over radioactivity.
Chances are Fall-out would go to Mexico, Cuba or Southern States
Originally Posted By: expat
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
Better yet Nuke it!
I wanted to say that, I really wanted to, but you know how people freak over radioactivity.
Chances are Fall-out would go to Mexico, Cuba or Southern States
I am sure the op means Straw, not hay, and it might not be a bad idea to use it to protect the salt marsh's.
And to believe that BP is doing nothing, well you would have to believe that they wouldn't sell every drop of oil thats being spewed out into the gulf, ever second that pipeline is leaking is costing them thousands of dollars, from lost revenue to the damages they are going to have to pay for.
And to believe that BP is doing nothing, well you would have to believe that they wouldn't sell every drop of oil thats being spewed out into the gulf, ever second that pipeline is leaking is costing them thousands of dollars, from lost revenue to the damages they are going to have to pay for.
Originally Posted By: RedByrd
However, it seems that using hay, especially in areas where the oil is about to beach, would be a lot more effective than other approaches.
Yeah, that's probably where it might work.
Once you move more into the sea, it may not capture a lot of it. NPR just had a story about some researcher concluding, that the oil is not just at the surface but all over, even as far down as 5000 feet, which is where the leak is, so all the way down to the ocean floor... I don't see hay being able to make it down there.
However, it seems that using hay, especially in areas where the oil is about to beach, would be a lot more effective than other approaches.
Yeah, that's probably where it might work.
Once you move more into the sea, it may not capture a lot of it. NPR just had a story about some researcher concluding, that the oil is not just at the surface but all over, even as far down as 5000 feet, which is where the leak is, so all the way down to the ocean floor... I don't see hay being able to make it down there.
Originally Posted By: chad8
Isn't that what southerners are for?
I'm a southerner and I ask, what are northerners for if we southerners are throwing hay on the oil spill?
Here where I live, hay goes to waste as there are bales on my wife and sister's 230 acres that's been there since before their dad died in 92 or 93.
May as well use it to soak up the oil.
Isn't that what southerners are for?
I'm a southerner and I ask, what are northerners for if we southerners are throwing hay on the oil spill?
Here where I live, hay goes to waste as there are bales on my wife and sister's 230 acres that's been there since before their dad died in 92 or 93.
May as well use it to soak up the oil.
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
And blowing it up would fix the leak how ?
Thats the stupidest idea I ever heard. Livestock and farm animals eat hay so by using it for a oil spill you are driving the price of farming up which relates to higher prices at the market. What they need to do is blow it up, stuff massive amounts of explosives in the oil leak hole and blow it up, Its the American way. I dont get it why they havent blown it up yet.
And blowing it up would fix the leak how ?
Originally Posted By: Shannow
And blowing it up would fix the leak how ?
I think he was being sarcastic, alluding to the fact that Americans tend to have the same solution to everything.
And blowing it up would fix the leak how ?
I think he was being sarcastic, alluding to the fact that Americans tend to have the same solution to everything.
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There was an oil spill from the Tanker 'Tory Canyon' in the U.K. back in 1967
"Detergent was used by Royal Navy vessels to try and disperse the oil. However, the ship had started to break up and UK Prime Minister Harold Wilson and his cabinet held a mini cabinet meeting at Royal Naval Air Station Culdrose and decided to set fire to the remaining oil to avoid the oil disaster getting worse. On Tuesday 28th March 1967 the Fleet Air Arm sent Blackburn Buccaneer planes from Lossiemouth to drop forty-two 1,000lb bombs on the ship. Then the Royal Air Force sent Hawker Hunter jets to drop cans of aviation fuel to make the oil blaze. However, exceptionally high tides had put the blaze out and it took further attacks by Sea Vixens from the Naval Air Station at Yeovilton and Buccaneers from the Naval Air Station at Brawdy as well as more RAF Hunters with napalm to ignite the oil. Attempts to use foam booms to contain the oil were of limited success due to their fragility in high seas."
It was generally considered 'Not a good Idea'
But think how much you could charge the News agencies for video rights if you were to Nuke it!
"Detergent was used by Royal Navy vessels to try and disperse the oil. However, the ship had started to break up and UK Prime Minister Harold Wilson and his cabinet held a mini cabinet meeting at Royal Naval Air Station Culdrose and decided to set fire to the remaining oil to avoid the oil disaster getting worse. On Tuesday 28th March 1967 the Fleet Air Arm sent Blackburn Buccaneer planes from Lossiemouth to drop forty-two 1,000lb bombs on the ship. Then the Royal Air Force sent Hawker Hunter jets to drop cans of aviation fuel to make the oil blaze. However, exceptionally high tides had put the blaze out and it took further attacks by Sea Vixens from the Naval Air Station at Yeovilton and Buccaneers from the Naval Air Station at Brawdy as well as more RAF Hunters with napalm to ignite the oil. Attempts to use foam booms to contain the oil were of limited success due to their fragility in high seas."
It was generally considered 'Not a good Idea'
But think how much you could charge the News agencies for video rights if you were to Nuke it!
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Shannow
And blowing it up would fix the leak how ?
I think he was being sarcastic, alluding to the fact that Americans tend to have the same solution to everything.
No I was actually serious, blow it up, seems to me if you disrupt the ground, it would cave back in and seal the drilled hole. Think of it as a huge straw, if you blow up the middle or the end of the straw, you now divert the stream back into the plugged hole and stop the flow. My therory sounds as good as golf balls and huge funnel towers. Another Note, Americans do like explosives though.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
And blowing it up would fix the leak how ?
I think he was being sarcastic, alluding to the fact that Americans tend to have the same solution to everything.
No I was actually serious, blow it up, seems to me if you disrupt the ground, it would cave back in and seal the drilled hole. Think of it as a huge straw, if you blow up the middle or the end of the straw, you now divert the stream back into the plugged hole and stop the flow. My therory sounds as good as golf balls and huge funnel towers. Another Note, Americans do like explosives though.
Originally Posted By: crinkles
bombing it would, instead of the current one gaping hole, make many seep and fissures which would be more difficult to handle. the bombing rubble would not be dense enough to seal the pressure. (my thoughts)
Not bombing, get the robots that are down there fiddling now to set the charges at the base of the pipe or better yet send it down the pipe, I am guess that oil is much deeper than that pipe, that pipe is just bringing it though.
bombing it would, instead of the current one gaping hole, make many seep and fissures which would be more difficult to handle. the bombing rubble would not be dense enough to seal the pressure. (my thoughts)
Not bombing, get the robots that are down there fiddling now to set the charges at the base of the pipe or better yet send it down the pipe, I am guess that oil is much deeper than that pipe, that pipe is just bringing it though.
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