Sick of TPMS

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Originally Posted By: willbur
"safety" feature mandated by the US government.."

No, thank the driver that was running her overloaded Ford explorer with underinflated tires, at 80 mph in the Texas heat. Tire blew out and they all spilled out. Lawyers went to work and the politicians/legislators did their part, too. For this one incident, we all are stuck with TPMS($$$$).


...And, air bags, ABS, traction control, backup cameras, lane departure warning, autonomous braking, etc, etc. Lowest common denominator wins every time.
 
i still don't buy the argument.

Forget all that convenience stuff that you are considering extraneous, let's get to the core of a modern vehicle.

What about all the Engine monitoring, timing, misfire, where a misfire in a single cylinder happening at thousands of revs/min is able to be detected.

If they can engineer to detect and correct all of that super complex stuff, I can't square that the with the difficulty that they can't make a TPMS that just tells you when the pressure of the tire gets low that doesn't fail or is super expensive or causes so much trouble.

If they said every time there's a misfire and the engine knock sensor goes out every oil change, you'd rightly say what the heck to the manufacturer.
It is not the lowest common denominator of dumb people, it's the lowest common denominator of implementation that has you made you guys mad. By making the govt the bad guy, they get away with doing the bare minimum in that area.

If they did it well, and you never had a single problem with it, like knock sensors, you'd wouldn't be sick of it.


(That being said there's somthing in this trend about shops just upcharging for service, just how they'll charge you $50 to read off an obd2 code, or charging $100 just cause they have the right reset tool).
 
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Originally Posted By: Danno
Just bought a 2016 KIA Sorento. No TPMS in Canada for KIA or Hyundai products. Thank you! (for the exact same reasons noted in above posts)
My 2015 Ram has that TPMS garbage. No problems so far with it, thankfully.
 
I'm not arguing in favor. I'm just stating the obvious. Why does our elected government feel that we need all this "parenting?" It's because every time something bad happens we tend to blame others and then we scream to our elected officials that life should somehow involve no risk or responsibility on our parts. If anything bad happens it has to be someone else's fault. It can't be bad luck or negligence. The world should be an ideal, risk free place in which we can do any stupid thing we desire and be free of all consequences.
 
In my opinion, all those things you mention are mostly engine related and beyond the typical owners purview. Tire pressure is not. Just a tire pressure gauge will do. Biggest impediment is ignorance and laziness. Why not just pass on your responsibility for your own safety to the government to do it for you? And then complain about it.
 
Originally Posted By: willbur
Why not just pass on your responsibility for your own safety to the government to do it for you? And then complain about it.


Better and more succinctly stated. Thank you.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
I'm just thankful our q5 does not use physical in-wheel pressure sensors.


How does it work if there's nothing inside the wheel to read the pressure?

Indirect TPMS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-pressure_monitoring_system#Direct_vs._indirect




iTPMS is regulated in part by the United Nations?

It is possible for a fly to [censored] these days without 149 million global agencies being involved?
 
Gee, maybe everyone does TPMS differently.

On our GM products we simply bought our own tool for 20 bucks to sync the sensors. All 4 wheels are displayed independently. VERY nice feature to have on load range E tires at 80 psi.

On my sig car you do absolutely nothing. It is almost 11 years old now and I've never replaced anything but seals when I get tires. You can move a tire anywhere on the car and the system figures it out in seconds as you start driving.

Same with our RAM.

Nothing to complain about here...
 
Why does my tpms system on my 8 year old Liberty show a problem yet display the correct air pressure for all 4 tries on the vehicle? The spare is properly inflated. My tires are in great condition and I don't want to go through the bother or expense to fix or change batteries until I need tires, probably another two years from now.
 
8 year old tires, I'd probably replace 'em.

On one forum I did read of a mod to make TPMS go away. Trace through the wiring harness, find the unit which reads the sensors, find the output wire, and force it to output "good". Can't do that if it's a CAN buss, but if it's a simple single on/off wire, why not?

I cracked open the broken TPMS sensors from my Tundra, and if there is a will, there is a way: it uses CR2032's, but the solder versions. Once cracked open I'd expect shorter life for the sensor (or maybe one should only refill with N2, keep moisture away from the PCB), but if there is a will then there is away to replace the battery.
 
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Originally Posted By: 07titan
from what I was told, you can thank Ford for this.


Ford should have just told the people to quit whining. Yes, you bought a full framed, truck based SUV ... it's going to ride rough. Deal with it or buy something that is a bit more car based.


Probably had something to do with the Explorer/Firestone tire rollovers.


It did.

People bought a truck based SUV, the Explorer, then whined and cried that it rode like a truck. So Ford's brilliant solution was to deflate the tires.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Gee, maybe everyone does TPMS differently.

On our GM products we simply bought our own tool for 20 bucks to sync the sensors. All 4 wheels are displayed independently. VERY nice feature to have on load range E tires at 80 psi.

On my sig car you do absolutely nothing. It is almost 11 years old now and I've never replaced anything but seals when I get tires. You can move a tire anywhere on the car and the system figures it out in seconds as you start driving.

Same with our RAM.

Nothing to complain about here...


Where did you buy the product for $20? I am looking for a relearn tool for my terrain
 
Originally Posted By: greasegunn
Not sure which forum this should go in but I though I would try here first.

Is anyone doing their own winter to summer tire change overs? I used to buy an extra set of wheels and have tires mounted on them and simply swap my tires in the spring and fall myself. With the advent of TPMS I haven’t been doing this lately because I cannot reset the TPMS on my Honda’s. It’s costing me about $180 per year per car to dismount, mount, and reset the TPMS. I suppose I could just buy the extra wheels and reset the TPMS at the beginning of the season but it is still a PITA to go to the shop and have this done. How are you guys handling TPMS? I don’t want to drive around with the light on. Anyone have their own (affordable) TPMS system tool?


I have the exact same setup but my car allows to change the wheels and set tire pressure to any value I want. I wonder why Honda doesn't have that feature.
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
I'm just thankful our q5 does not use physical in-wheel pressure sensors.


How does it work if there's nothing inside the wheel to read the pressure?

Indirect TPMS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-pressure_monitoring_system#Direct_vs._indirect




iTPMS is regulated in part by the United Nations?

It is possible for a fly to [censored] these days without 149 million global agencies being involved?


Don't worry, the US is not part of that. That's why we don't have a standard approach hence OP's problems.
 
Originally Posted By: Bgallagher
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Gee, maybe everyone does TPMS differently.

On our GM products we simply bought our own tool for 20 bucks to sync the sensors. All 4 wheels are displayed independently. VERY nice feature to have on load range E tires at 80 psi.

On my sig car you do absolutely nothing. It is almost 11 years old now and I've never replaced anything but seals when I get tires. You can move a tire anywhere on the car and the system figures it out in seconds as you start driving.

Same with our RAM.

Nothing to complain about here...


Where did you buy the product for $20? I am looking for a relearn tool for my terrain


So sorry I bought it in 2013 and cannot remember. Likely an Amazon purchase...
 
I don't have the sensors in the wheels on my Gen Coupe. Took the instrument cluster out and clipped the LED for the TPMS light.
 
It's almost a certainty that any CANBUS vehicle can have the TMPS turned off if you really want to. However you will likely not find any reputable shop or dealership willing to do so...you'll have to find the scan tool to DIY.
 
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