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Originally Posted By: SrDriver
My wife and I cut the cable a couple of years ago. We use a Roku 3 and pay only for Hulu + the non advertising version. Have an indoor antenna and get 11 local channels. If you want more then using Sling TV with a Roku or other streaming device. Check out the Sling TV web site. We find plenty of free stuff on the Roku and all we pay for is Hulu + ad free version.


^^^ we too cut the cable maybe almost 4 years ago and we still have WAY TO MUCH TV.
We get every major network TV station and their "side" channels, plus shopping channels, approx 25 channels in all, we use a Channel Master DVR+ and all the free local channels program EXACTLY like using a Cable box, complete with channel menu and record new episodes only.
In addition to the TV antenna we stream with 3 Roku players, subscribe to Hulu+ and Netflex, total TV cost is $20 a month plus the cost of internet which we would have any way.

The ONLY internet service you need for the above is basic 5 to 7 MB download and .5 to 1 MB upload.
We NEVER have any problem downloading or speed issues with this.

We have 2 desktops, 3 laptops, ipad, 2 to 3 cell phones, Ooma internet phone, 3 ruku players, 1 DVR player, connected to our wi-fi system at any time. We use TWC basic 6 MBPS service, dont overpay for service you do not need.
We use our own TP LINK DOCSIS 3 modem and TP LINK Archer 1750 router, great well performing devices at fantastic prices.

PS,. What A LOT of people do not know is my major network TV channels received through my attic TV antenna is FAR SUPERIOR HDTV compared to pay cable or satellite. People do not understand that statement. The reason why my FREE HDTV signals/picture is far superior to "their" pay HDTV signals/picture is I am receiving the signal DIRECTLY from the TV transmitting towers.

Your pay TV provider is taking all signals and compressing them which slightly deteriorates the picture quality compared to free antenna service. The reason they need to compress the signals is to squeeze in as many channels as they can into your home!

Also lets not forget, REDBOX! But by far, Ruku player is the device to have if nothing else.
 
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Originally Posted By: SrDriver
My wife and I cut the cable a couple of years ago. We use a Roku 3 and pay only for Hulu + the non advertising version. Have an indoor antenna and get 11 local channels. If you want more then using Sling TV with a Roku or other streaming device. Check out the Sling TV web site. We find plenty of free stuff on the Roku and all we pay for is Hulu + ad free version.


^^^ we too cut the cable maybe almost 4 years ago and we still have WAY TO MUCH TV.
We get every major network TV station and their "side" channels, plus shopping channels, approx 25 channels in all, we use a Channel Master DVR+ and all the free local channels program EXACTLY like using a Cable box, complete with channel menu and record new episodes only.
In addition to the TV antenna we stream with 3 Roku players, subscribe to Hulu+ and Netflex, total TV cost is $20 a month plus the cost of internet which we would have any way.

The ONLY internet service you need for the above is basic 5 to 7 MB download and .5 to 1 MB upload.
We NEVER have any problem downloading or speed issues with this.

We have 2 desktops, 3 laptops, ipad, 2 to 3 cell phones, Ooma internet phone, 3 ruku players, 1 DVR player, connected to our wi-fi system at any time. We use TWC basic 6 MBPS service, dont overpay for service you do not need.
We use our own TP LINK DOCSIS 3 modem and TP LINK Archer 1750 router, great well performing devices at fantastic prices.

PS,. What A LOT of people do not know is my major network TV channels received through my attic TV antenna is FAR SUPERIOR HDTV compared to pay cable or satellite. People do not understand that statement. The reason why my FREE HDTV signals/picture is far superior to "their" pay HDTV signals/picture is I am receiving the signal DIRECTLY from the TV transmitting towers.

Your pay TV provider is taking all signals and compressing them which slightly deteriorates the picture quality compared to free antenna service. The reason they need to compress the signals is to squeeze in as many channels as they can into your home!

Also lets not forget, REDBOX! But by far, Ruku player is the device to have if nothing else.



There are VERY FEW Internet users that could put up with such slow speeds. Have you ever had Internet that was faster? Do you know the difference?
 
Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
SrDriver said:
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There are VERY FEW Internet users that could put up with such slow speeds. Have you ever had Internet that was faster? Do you know the difference?


Please expand on that. What do you think the difference would be? Example, your going to stream a Netflex movie in HD. Please expand on what you would think is the difference. I click on a Netflex movie and in less then 5 seconds the movie is starting and plays through in HD with no buffering.

Now to answer your question. Note my user name. On a daily basis I install, service and troubleshoot on a relentless long work day in homes and small businesses, security systems, cloud web based security cameras, web based remote automation controls such as thermostats, lighting, door locks and garage door openers for a major private security firm. I am constantly accessing these customers internet systems.

By far, the biggest issue is in many cases the cheap garbage wifi routers and modems that the internet providers provide to their customers, this happens lately more so if that customer elects to use lower tier internet speeds. This benefits the internet provider as they may then elect to get faster service at higher cost, then low and behold they come in and give them a better but still not great modem and router.

If one elects to get their own equipment like the cost effective equipment I mentioned in the post abovethey can easily get buy with the speed I mentioned. Sometimes people also confuse latency with speed. If using garbage equipment with a garbage connection and possible electronic interference latency can climb so high as to make people think their connection is slow. I get a ping of 32 MS on my system.
You can test all the above at speedtest.net

Ok, now there is one catch. I didnt bring it up because we were talking about TV, not video cameras.
If you do have devices in your home that upload video, such as video cameras, with a 6 or 7 mb download and 1 mb upload you will be limited to one or two cameras as cameras use the upload end of your service not the download. ALso if your a photographer who is constantly uploading images of course a faster speed will help as the internet providers do not provide fast upload speeds at the lower prices and even at the higher prices they are not so great.

So answer your question, yes, I absolutely know what a fast internet connection is.

If people are having issues with their internet speed, here are some of the first things they should do.
1. Get that garbage tangle of wires straightened out by the modem and router.

2. If it is router and modem combination get rid of it and get separate modem and router such as the TP link I mentioned or a good Netgear etc.

3. Make sure the router is in an upright position (higher the better) and not sitting on top or right next to the modem.

4. Try to separate the power lines from the devices transformers instead of being in a tangled mess.

5. If the power lines for the devices do not have Ferrite Core filters on them (most do but some dont) buy a dozen or two and clip them on all the power lines. If you place two next to each other even better.
For such as simple basic filter results can be amazing. Heck, even my 60 inch Pana Plasma TV comes with them on the power line from the factory.
Here is an example of the filters I didnt buy these particular filters, got a bunch on ebay, though these look fine to, just did a FAST internet search as an example.
Its amazing the difference, when things dont seem to work quite right that these devices can make, even more so on a security system. Needless to say, I have them on EVERYTHING related to my internet and security system.

6. If your router is tucked behind that nice shiney big screen TV, MOVE IT AWAY from it, and get it out from behind the TV.
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That's what I get. the wife's on her phone (facebook) and the daughter on her tablet watching youtube clips as I did this test.

modem provided by the ISP, no special equipment anywhere.

I'm happy with that, the test server was quite a ways off too, well over 100 miles.

I'm on the cheap contract, DSL, not cable.
 
Originally Posted By: CKN
While I have respect for what you do-there is a lot besides your explanation-

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/routing-information-protocol-rip/13769-5.html

BTW-I sold RAID systems all over the Western U.S. Sold one of my last ones to R.E.I. sporting goods in Seattle.


Im not sure if this is a reply to me but my reply was to a person challenging if a simple 7 MBS internet connection can satisfy a pay TV free home and the answer is yes it can and I would suggest this route (mentioned above in my other post) to anyone looking to save money by cutting the cable.
Or put another way, many people pay for a higher speed, sometimes WAY higher cost, but because of a basic garbage set up they do not get what they are paying for, where someone with a borderline (not really that borderline) lower speed with an optimized set up can and will be completely satisfied.
All I am saying is, make sure your set up is where it needs to be before wasting money on higher speed.

Look at it this way, We can try driving a Mustang GT through town as fast as possible with the emergency brake on or we can drive through town in a Prius with the Emergency brake off. The Mustang will still be faster but the Pruis will still be satisfying compared to the Mustang with the emergency brake on..
 
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Originally Posted By: CKN
While I have respect for what you do-there is a lot besides your explanation-

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/routing-information-protocol-rip/13769-5.html

BTW-I sold RAID systems all over the Western U.S. Sold one of my last ones to R.E.I. sporting goods in Seattle.


Im not sure if this is a reply to me but my reply was to a person challenging if a simple 7 MBS internet connection can satisfy a pay TV free home and the answer is yes it can and I would suggest this route (mentioned above in my other post) to anyone looking to save money by cutting the cable.
Or put another way, many people pay for a higher speed, sometimes WAY higher cost, but because of a basic garbage set up they do not get what they are paying for, where someone with a borderline (not really that borderline) lower speed with an optimized set up can and will be completely satisfied.
All I am saying is, make sure your set up is where it needs to be before wasting money on higher speed.

Look at it this way, We can try driving a Mustang GT through town as fast as possible with the emergency brake on or we can drive through town in a Prius with the Emergency brake off. The Mustang will still be faster but the Pruis will still be satisfying compared to the Mustang with the emergency brake on..

Alarmguy, Thanks for the posting. I recently switched fromm AT&T DSL to Xfinity(Comcast) internet service. My speed tests are always 10mps or just slightly better. I have Motorolla Arris SBG6580 modem/router all in one unit. I did extensive research on reviews for modem routers before I picked this one and pretty much all reviews were darn good. Once my contract is up with Direct TV(which I`ve had for many years)I plan on going with Sling TV. I also have a Roku 3 on the upstairs bedroom that I will bring down and install on my family room tv. I just don`t use it much up there in the bedroom. I mostly watch You Tube videos on occasion up there. My signal is good but should be even better on the Family room TV because it`s only about 10feet from my computer. OK, after all that my question is do you think my set-up will work good on Sling TV once I get that set up?
 
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
I suspect you do not live in the USA


I suspect you are right.


Why do folks like you keep your location hidden? Are you a criminal on the run? Really - if not, what's there to hide?

The other day you told members here about your weather. Why?..... since we haven't a clue where you live.
I should block your posts, for they bring little real-world info. Better-yet, this website should make it a rule to at least show the member's geographical area, in order to be an active member here.
 
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Yes I think your sling should work fine. As you may know you can get sling through the Ruku now.

For others reading my posts, I am not proclaiming to be a networking expert, NOT at all, I am not saying having fast Internet is a waste of money. I am only answering common sense posts on what some people should do first before deciding to upgrade their speed. Through experience I run into the topics I mentioned many times a week. Sloppy connections, bad router positioning, interference etc, should be looked at first. Yet at my home, my 7Mb speed fills all our needs.

Last week I ran I to a perfect example and I still do not know the reason, guy just got a job with Intel, having constant issues with his 2 cameras losing contact with the router which was nearby, I noticed his apple desktop was sluggish and slow. I tested his Internet speed, my god, I never saw faster speed in my life on speedtest.net. The needle gauge for both upload and download was so fast it got buried to the max speed, yet for some reason his network was sluggish.
All was supplied to him was a netgear all in one router/modem and I still do not know the issue. Except to advise him to get a new router but I also told him, I just do not know.
 
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
I suspect you do not live in the USA


I suspect you are right.


Why do folks like you keep your location hidden? Are you a criminal on the run? Really - if not, what's there to hide?

The other day you told members here about your weather. Why?..... since we haven't a clue where you live.
I should block your posts, for they bring little real-world info. Better-yet, this website should make it a rule to at least show the member's geographical area, in order to be an active member here.


Yes! It would have helped to have know he didnt live in the USA when discussing Internet speeds. I'm pretty sure, again not saying I'm an expert, just everyday knowledge, that the USA has some of the slowest and most expensive Internet speeds in the free world. I may go out on a limb here saying most people in the USA who claim to have DSL, just have consumer ADSL where by the looks of that post he has true DSL and the speed to go with it.
 
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Please expand on that. What do you think the difference would be? Example, your going to stream a Netflex movie in HD. Please expand on what you would think is the difference. I click on a Netflex movie and in less then 5 seconds the movie is starting and plays through in HD with no buffering.

Now to answer your question. Note my user name. On a daily basis I install, service and troubleshoot on a relentless long work day in homes and small businesses, security systems, cloud web based security cameras, web based remote automation controls such as thermostats, lighting, door locks and garage door openers for a major private security firm. I am constantly accessing these customers internet systems.

By far, the biggest issue is in many cases the cheap garbage wifi routers and modems that the internet providers provide to their customers, this happens lately more so if that customer elects to use lower tier internet speeds. This benefits the internet provider as they may then elect to get faster service at higher cost, then low and behold they come in and give them a better but still not great modem and router.

If one elects to get their own equipment like the cost effective equipment I mentioned in the post abovethey can easily get buy with the speed I mentioned. Sometimes people also confuse latency with speed. If using garbage equipment with a garbage connection and possible electronic interference latency can climb so high as to make people think their connection is slow. I get a ping of 32 MS on my system.
You can test all the above at speedtest.net

Ok, now there is one catch. I didnt bring it up because we were talking about TV, not video cameras.
If you do have devices in your home that upload video, such as video cameras, with a 6 or 7 mb download and 1 mb upload you will be limited to one or two cameras as cameras use the upload end of your service not the download. ALso if your a photographer who is constantly uploading images of course a faster speed will help as the internet providers do not provide fast upload speeds at the lower prices and even at the higher prices they are not so great.

So answer your question, yes, I absolutely know what a fast internet connection is.

If people are having issues with their internet speed, here are some of the first things they should do.
1. Get that garbage tangle of wires straightened out by the modem and router.
2. If it is router and modem combination get rid of it and get separate modem and router such as the TP link I mentioned or a good Netgear etc.
3. Make sure the router is in an upright position (higher the better) and not sitting on top or right next to the modem.
4. Try to separate the power lines from the devices transformers instead of being in a tangled mess.
5. If the power lines for the devices do not have Ferrite Core filters on them (most do but some dont) buy a dozen or two and clip them on all the power lines. If you place two next to each other even better.
For such as simple basic filter results can be amazing. Heck, even my 60 inch Pana Plasma TV comes with them on the power line from the factory.
Here is an example of the filters I didnt buy these particular filters, got a bunch on ebay, though these look fine to, just did a FAST internet search as an example.
Its amazing the difference, when things dont seem to work quite right that these devices can make, even more so on a security system. Needless to say, I have them on EVERYTHING related to my internet and security system.

6. If your router is tucked behind that nice shiney big screen TV, MOVE IT AWAY from it, and get it out from behind the TV.


Lots of good stuff here I agree with.

1. I use ATT ADSL 5MB/s and have no issues with streaming HD content. Cost for this service? $20-24/mo. depending on what deal ATT offers. They usually try to upsale me, but why pay more? I think most consumers are way OVERSOLD on faster & faster speeds for more and more $$$$/mo.

2. I'm currently using an ATT Westell ADSL modem/router/4-port switch. They sent it to me free a few years ago, when the last one they sent me free, died. They wanted to initially charge me $100 for it. I reminded them of how long I'd been a ADSL customer, so they waived the fee. It always pays to ask what specials, programs, promotions, and benefits they have that you're eligible for. Don't rely on them to tell you. ASK! I absolutely agree it's in your favor to BUY a good one, rather than pay rent every month.

Mounted the ATT modem/router high up on the wiring closet wall to increase the range, improve air circulation and get it away from multiple AC cords. Greatly improves its existing wireless capability.

3. $150/mo + for TV?? That's just nuts. I'm old enough to remember decades ago when there were NO COMMERCIALS on pay-for-TV. Now? It's just clogged with them. Threads such as this are a sure sign the frogs are waking up and jumping out of the boiling pots.

4. A few years ago I re-wired my house with homerun CAT5 cable throughout. Split VOICE & DATA at the demarc-box. Set it up on a punch-block. I now have 8-pairs to multiple locations throughout. This gives me lots of flexibility. BTW, wire is by no means obsolete. It's very fast, quiet, secure and reliable. No new home (especially) should be without it. Especially large, multi-story houses. Further, wire can easily connect your head-end to another part of the house to broadcast WiFi there, locate a server or printer, etc....reliably.

5. VOICE & DATA cables need to be kept seperate from AC cords & wall transformers to minimize interference & coupling. They should only cross at right angles.

6. Re: Cell phones. I'm amazed at the number of people I encounter who have lousy cell reception in their own homes. Made even worse given the amount of $$$$ some spend /month on service. There are antennas, boosters and repeaters available to improve reception & transmission. Do your family a favor. It will eliminate a great source of frustration in your daily life.

7. Finally, do yourself another favor by installing a UL-1449 3rd edition, whole-house surge arrestor on your primary breaker box. These are critical given the amount of electronics in use and will also protect your washer, dryer, stove, dishwasher, indoor air conditioner, refrig. wall switches, dimmers, transformers, etc. The local news has reported a neighborhood suffering from voltage spikes, taking out thousands in equipment in more than a few houses. One of these would have prevented that. Be sure to get one with LED's indicating it's working on both power legs. It will clamp anything over about 600 VAC and prevent it from entering your house's electrical wiring and doing damage. Most will require installation by an electrician. Consider it money well spent. This will also be an excellent opportunity to check the integrity & quality of your grounds. Phone, cable, satellite and power all need to be bonded together, outside, to a quality ground to ensure protection.
 
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
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Lots of good stuff here I agree with.

1. I use ATT ADSL 5MB/s and have no issues with streaming HD content. Cost for this service? $20-24/mo. depending on what deal ATT offers. They usually try to upsale me, but why pay more? I think most consumers are way OVERSOLD on faster & faster speeds for more and more $$$$/mo.

2. I'm currently using an ATT Westell ADSL modem/router/4-port switch. They sent it to me free a few years ago, when the last one they sent me free, died. They wanted to initially charge me $100 for it. I reminded them of how long I'd been a ADSL customer, so they waived the fee. It always pays to ask what specials, programs, promotions, and benefits they have that you're eligible for. Don't rely on them to tell you. ASK! I absolutely agree it's in your favor to BUY a good one, rather than pay rent every month.

Mounted the ATT modem/router high up on the wiring closet wall to increase the range, improve air circulation and get it away from multiple AC cords. Greatly improves its existing wireless capability.

3. $150/mo + for TV?? That's just nuts. I'm old enough to remember decades ago when there were NO COMMERCIALS on pay-for-TV. Now? It's just clogged with them. Threads such as this are a sure sign the frogs are waking up and jumping out of the boiling pots.

4. A few years ago I re-wired my house with homerun CAT5 cable throughout. Split VOICE & DATA at the demarc-box. Set it up on a punch-block. I now have 8-pairs to multiple locations throughout. This gives me lots of flexibility. BTW, wire is by no means obsolete. It's very fast, quiet, secure and reliable. No new home (especially) should be without it. Especially large, multi-story houses. Further, wire can easily connect your head-end to another part of the house to broadcast WiFi there, locate a server or printer, etc....reliably.

5. VOICE & DATA cables need to be kept seperate from AC cords & wall transformers to minimize interference & coupling. They should only cross at right angles.

6. Re: Cell phones. I'm amazed at the number of people I encounter who have lousy cell reception in their own homes. Made even worse given the amount of $$$$ some spend /month on service. There are antennas, boosters and repeaters available to improve reception & transmission. Do your family a favor. It will eliminate a great source of frustration in your daily life.

7. Finally, do yourself another favor by installing a UL-1449 3rd edition, whole-house surge arrestor on your primary breaker box. These are critical given the amount of electronics in use and will also protect your washer, dryer, stove, dishwasher, indoor air conditioner, refrig. wall switches, dimmers, transformers, etc. The local news has reported a neighborhood suffering from voltage spikes, taking out thousands in equipment in more than a few houses. One of these would have prevented that. Be sure to get one with LED's indicating it's working on both power legs. It will clamp anything over about 600 VAC and prevent it from entering your house's electrical wiring and doing damage. Most will require installation by an electrician. Consider it money well spent. This will also be an excellent opportunity to check the integrity & quality of your grounds. Phone, cable, satellite and power all need to be bonded together, outside, to a quality ground to ensure protection.


Very well written and good advice I am sure you know by my previous that post I agree.
No question in my mind that, gosh, I am willing to bet 75% of the consumers are buying faster access then they need just to overcome all the weaknesses in their set ups vs a well set up system with slower access.
Ahhh ... but "ain't that America" we pay through the nose for faster internet here compared to other free countries who have much higher speed at lower cost.

Anyway, much of my set up is similiar. Wiring closet with an OnQue panel (or however you spell it) Keep the wires separate, get some ferrite filters too. I recently added a pretty beefy UPS to the whole modem, router and Ooma set up.

Many times I have had a whole house surge in my hands, only to put it back on the shelf at Home Depot and Lowes, also on line. Yet, I do have soooo many on my appliances and walls in the house the whole house is most likely protected, everything is time, maybe Ill get to it one day. I have them on everything, refrigerator, microwave, washing machine! and every outlet that has an electronic on it.
Computers, TV s actually get two suppressors. 1 Wall one with a "power strip" type plugged into the Wall One. *L*

Im kind of passionate about this subject simply because I am in peoples homes all day long servicing security systems, some very affluent and some very poor. Its the poor I feel for, the wasted money which truly amounts to most likely $200 of after tax income a month on needless pay TV, needless higher then needed internet speeds and cell phones. (whole other subject but I posted about that on another thread here.*L*
(I had ATT DSL up until NOV 2015) but out of time to finish, have to get to work*L*)
 
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Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
I suspect you do not live in the USA


I suspect you are right.


Why do folks like you keep your location hidden? ...


I kind of think the part that says: Server: Luxembourg (~50 mi) and "Faster than 70% of BE" is what we call a clue around here.
grin.gif


Anyway >
 
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
I suspect you do not live in the USA


I suspect you are right.


Why do folks like you keep your location hidden? ...


I kind of think the part that says: Server: Luxembourg (~50 mi) and "Faster than 70% of BE" is what we call a clue around here.
grin.gif


Anyway >


The clue we all seek is placing the location in the profile. If someone doesn't agree to the process, they should not be allowed to post.
We're not asking for city or state, just relative geographic location...... even something like Southwest USA.

I mean c'mon! When a poster describes the (hypothetical) weather they're currently witnessing in a reply, at least give us a clue where you live. I should not have to go searching for it either.
 
Originally Posted By: 'alarmguy'
Many times I have had a whole house surge in my hands, only to put it back on the shelf at Home Depot and Lowes, also on line. Yet, I do have soooo many on my appliances and walls in the house the whole house is most likely protected, everything is time, maybe Ill get to it one day. I have them on everything, refrigerator, microwave, washing machine! and every outlet that has an electronic on it.
Computers, TV s actually get two suppressors. 1 Wall one with a "power strip" type plugged into the Wall One.


Common consumer protect strips usually do not clip spikes low enough. Two, they don't have indicator LEDs to warn you when one side is no longer protected. Three, much cheaper to buy ONE quality, rated unit, capable of protecting EVERYTHING inside, rather than MULTIPLE consumer-grade units, with various levels of protection & quality, strewn about your house. Four, mounting it on the service box clamps ALL spikes OUTSIDE, before they ever get a chance to travel over your internal house wiring, wrecking havoc. Finally, fifth...when a large enough surge comes through, these may catch fire and explode!

You definitely want that occuring outside!
 
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
I suspect you do not live in the USA


I suspect you are right.


Why do folks like you keep your location hidden? ...


I kind of think the part that says: Server: Luxembourg (~50 mi) and "Faster than 70% of BE" is what we call a clue around here.
grin.gif


Anyway >


they could've just asked aswell... but nobody did.
 
Mounted a big outdoor antenna with a rotor a couple years before digital went live. I get over 60 channels with some PBS stations being repeats. Like what they have done with the digital because they just keep adding more and more channels with the subs. I have a Firestick, and pay for Netflix monthly because it's the best for the money. Every now and then I will pay for HBO Now for a month to binge watch Game of Thrones, or what ever else the wife wants to watch. Tried the free trial of Sling last Fall, and it was a joke. The service was absolutely horrible. Have not tried it recently, and I don't think it's worth the money even if it did work right.
 
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