Shoplifting, way out of hand here
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I have a good friend that is a lot of prevention guy for our local Kmart. He says internal theft is the big problem here. He rarely catches a customer Stealing. They want him to spend his time watching the employees. The employees dump stuff in the dumpster and then retrieve it later. he also said there is a law that prevents him from chasing a customer wants past the door
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me.
There are more ways to do shoplifting than to just walk out of the store without paying for an item.
A week or two ago, there was a thread on this site about how a person could destroy a WM battery so they could get a new battery before the warranty ran out. I was appalled by how many people posted how to do it, how at least one mod condoned it and how post after post was allowed to continue without the thread being locked. Yet, if a new thread would be started about how the prices of car batteries have risen significantly over the past couple of years, I'm sure a lot of these same posters would be jumping in and complaining about it. Doesn't anybody see any correlation here? I guess not.
It truly is a sign of the times and it is scary.
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me.
There are more ways to do shoplifting than to just walk out of the store without paying for an item.
A week or two ago, there was a thread on this site about how a person could destroy a WM battery so they could get a new battery before the warranty ran out. I was appalled by how many people posted how to do it, how at least one mod condoned it and how post after post was allowed to continue without the thread being locked. Yet, if a new thread would be started about how the prices of car batteries have risen significantly over the past couple of years, I'm sure a lot of these same posters would be jumping in and complaining about it. Doesn't anybody see any correlation here? I guess not.
It truly is a sign of the times and it is scary.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me. It matters not if another person has more than you as a way of excusing or shifting focus away from common theft. Plenty of wealthy folks got that way from hard work and exhibiting integrity on their way up the economic ladder. This garbage about the 'rich' (it's become a bad word) being any more unethical than the average American is pure bunk. I'm working class myself and harbor ZERO negativity toward the wealthy. I applaud them. They provide income for others, they actually PRODUCE things and contribute to our society. No, they are not all honest or ethical....but in proportion to the average citizen I would say that they are at least equal in ethical standards if not above. I just get so tired of this constant mantra that being highly successful means you are 'bad' some way or got where you are from ripping off people. It's hogwash.
Back on the direct point....stealing has no valid excuse. Shoplifters and thieves should suffer to the highest degree possible under the law.
Interesting perspective.
Since I was the person who posted up the article about the wealthy being less ethical, perhaps I should reveal that on paper, I would indeed be one of the wealthy.
The reason for posting up something scientific is to establish a truth that is less biased than personal perspective.
My own thoughts are that many rich people do work hard - perhaps it is better to say are more disciplined, and that is certainly an admirable trait to emulate when you're trying to make it.
But part of making it requires an understanding of the system and those that really make it use the system the best and often unethically.
I am afraid to say that some poorer people, not exposed as much to how things work, simplify things and equate all success to hard work alone. Many of those people work as hard but don't make it because they're not working hard at the right things or are unwilling to compromise their ethics.
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me. It matters not if another person has more than you as a way of excusing or shifting focus away from common theft. Plenty of wealthy folks got that way from hard work and exhibiting integrity on their way up the economic ladder. This garbage about the 'rich' (it's become a bad word) being any more unethical than the average American is pure bunk. I'm working class myself and harbor ZERO negativity toward the wealthy. I applaud them. They provide income for others, they actually PRODUCE things and contribute to our society. No, they are not all honest or ethical....but in proportion to the average citizen I would say that they are at least equal in ethical standards if not above. I just get so tired of this constant mantra that being highly successful means you are 'bad' some way or got where you are from ripping off people. It's hogwash.
Back on the direct point....stealing has no valid excuse. Shoplifters and thieves should suffer to the highest degree possible under the law.
Interesting perspective.
Since I was the person who posted up the article about the wealthy being less ethical, perhaps I should reveal that on paper, I would indeed be one of the wealthy.
The reason for posting up something scientific is to establish a truth that is less biased than personal perspective.
My own thoughts are that many rich people do work hard - perhaps it is better to say are more disciplined, and that is certainly an admirable trait to emulate when you're trying to make it.
But part of making it requires an understanding of the system and those that really make it use the system the best and often unethically.
I am afraid to say that some poorer people, not exposed as much to how things work, simplify things and equate all success to hard work alone. Many of those people work as hard but don't make it because they're not working hard at the right things or are unwilling to compromise their ethics.
So much balderdash, so little time.
I run my own biz. I am considered "successful" and have a nice comfortable lifestyle.
I have NEVER "used the system unethically" nor have I compromised my own personal ethics in any way during my career. I would not even consider it, and have left other jobs I had prior to my own biz because they wanted me to do something I did not believe in.
It always amazes me how the media drives people before them like leaves in the wind...
I run my own biz. I am considered "successful" and have a nice comfortable lifestyle.
I have NEVER "used the system unethically" nor have I compromised my own personal ethics in any way during my career. I would not even consider it, and have left other jobs I had prior to my own biz because they wanted me to do something I did not believe in.
It always amazes me how the media drives people before them like leaves in the wind...
Originally Posted By: Gabe
Originally Posted By: NightRiderQ45
At least I do have my e-mails registered to four homes that's in my family, non-fake addresses haha. How ironic...
Since you brought it up: if somebody here is living at 123 Fake Street, Beverly Hills, California, I would like my gift card, please.
lol! You are funny!!!
Originally Posted By: NightRiderQ45
At least I do have my e-mails registered to four homes that's in my family, non-fake addresses haha. How ironic...
Since you brought it up: if somebody here is living at 123 Fake Street, Beverly Hills, California, I would like my gift card, please.
lol! You are funny!!!
Originally Posted By: Kruse
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me.
There are more ways to do shoplifting than to just walk out of the store without paying for an item.
A week or two ago, there was a thread on this site about how a person could destroy a WM battery so they could get a new battery before the warranty ran out. I was appalled by how many people posted how to do it, how at least one mod condoned it and how post after post was allowed to continue without the thread being locked. Yet, if a new thread would be started about how the prices of car batteries have risen significantly over the past couple of years, I'm sure a lot of these same posters would be jumping in and complaining about it. Doesn't anybody see any correlation here? I guess not.
It truly is a sign of the times and it is scary.
I understand that rising costs of many products can and does seem to sanction (in some minds) the act of thievery. But I would be willing to guess the most stolen items are not in fact things that are necessary to sustain life. Regardless of price, in my mind there simply is no excuse for stealing in this country.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me.
There are more ways to do shoplifting than to just walk out of the store without paying for an item.
A week or two ago, there was a thread on this site about how a person could destroy a WM battery so they could get a new battery before the warranty ran out. I was appalled by how many people posted how to do it, how at least one mod condoned it and how post after post was allowed to continue without the thread being locked. Yet, if a new thread would be started about how the prices of car batteries have risen significantly over the past couple of years, I'm sure a lot of these same posters would be jumping in and complaining about it. Doesn't anybody see any correlation here? I guess not.
It truly is a sign of the times and it is scary.
I understand that rising costs of many products can and does seem to sanction (in some minds) the act of thievery. But I would be willing to guess the most stolen items are not in fact things that are necessary to sustain life. Regardless of price, in my mind there simply is no excuse for stealing in this country.
Its amazing to me that the police would even respond to a shoplifting in progress call. They surely wouldn't do that around here. I not a security guard, but I work retail and people who shoplift are not limited to one class. Most retailers in this area lose a lot to theft, it has simply become the cost of doing business.
Originally Posted By: EType
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me. It matters not if another person has more than you as a way of excusing or shifting focus away from common theft. Plenty of wealthy folks got that way from hard work and exhibiting integrity on their way up the economic ladder. This garbage about the 'rich' (it's become a bad word) being any more unethical than the average American is pure bunk. I'm working class myself and harbor ZERO negativity toward the wealthy. I applaud them. They provide income for others, they actually PRODUCE things and contribute to our society. No, they are not all honest or ethical....but in proportion to the average citizen I would say that they are at least equal in ethical standards if not above. I just get so tired of this constant mantra that being highly successful means you are 'bad' some way or got where you are from ripping off people. It's hogwash.
Back on the direct point....stealing has no valid excuse. Shoplifters and thieves should suffer to the highest degree possible under the law.
Interesting perspective.
Since I was the person who posted up the article about the wealthy being less ethical, perhaps I should reveal that on paper, I would indeed be one of the wealthy.
The reason for posting up something scientific is to establish a truth that is less biased than personal perspective.
My own thoughts are that many rich people do work hard - perhaps it is better to say are more disciplined, and that is certainly an admirable trait to emulate when you're trying to make it.
But part of making it requires an understanding of the system and those that really make it use the system the best and often unethically.
I am afraid to say that some poorer people, not exposed as much to how things work, simplify things and equate all success to hard work alone. Many of those people work as hard but don't make it because they're not working hard at the right things or are unwilling to compromise their ethics.
I didn't mean to attack your post in particular, but I certainly take issue with the overwhelming slant in our current culture that demonizes the wealthy as somehow evil or unethical. That was my main point about your post. It's really not the poor vs. the wealthy when it comes to right and wrong. Today, many things that used to be black and white....are suddenly subjective and permeated with excuses or blame upon somebody that has achieved more. I have known MANY lower income people that are entirely without regard when it comes to ethics....far more in proportion than the upper class folks I have known. The excuse is always something like..."Oh, they are rich....they can afford it...I deserve it anyway.....the company will never notice....they won't even notice what I take"....etc. Simply put....I honestly find that upper class folks have retained more of the traditional values that I was raised with. Manners, cleanliness, decency, ethics...all seem to be in better form with the upper class.
Just my opinion....I'm sure many will flame me here.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me. It matters not if another person has more than you as a way of excusing or shifting focus away from common theft. Plenty of wealthy folks got that way from hard work and exhibiting integrity on their way up the economic ladder. This garbage about the 'rich' (it's become a bad word) being any more unethical than the average American is pure bunk. I'm working class myself and harbor ZERO negativity toward the wealthy. I applaud them. They provide income for others, they actually PRODUCE things and contribute to our society. No, they are not all honest or ethical....but in proportion to the average citizen I would say that they are at least equal in ethical standards if not above. I just get so tired of this constant mantra that being highly successful means you are 'bad' some way or got where you are from ripping off people. It's hogwash.
Back on the direct point....stealing has no valid excuse. Shoplifters and thieves should suffer to the highest degree possible under the law.
Interesting perspective.
Since I was the person who posted up the article about the wealthy being less ethical, perhaps I should reveal that on paper, I would indeed be one of the wealthy.
The reason for posting up something scientific is to establish a truth that is less biased than personal perspective.
My own thoughts are that many rich people do work hard - perhaps it is better to say are more disciplined, and that is certainly an admirable trait to emulate when you're trying to make it.
But part of making it requires an understanding of the system and those that really make it use the system the best and often unethically.
I am afraid to say that some poorer people, not exposed as much to how things work, simplify things and equate all success to hard work alone. Many of those people work as hard but don't make it because they're not working hard at the right things or are unwilling to compromise their ethics.
I didn't mean to attack your post in particular, but I certainly take issue with the overwhelming slant in our current culture that demonizes the wealthy as somehow evil or unethical. That was my main point about your post. It's really not the poor vs. the wealthy when it comes to right and wrong. Today, many things that used to be black and white....are suddenly subjective and permeated with excuses or blame upon somebody that has achieved more. I have known MANY lower income people that are entirely without regard when it comes to ethics....far more in proportion than the upper class folks I have known. The excuse is always something like..."Oh, they are rich....they can afford it...I deserve it anyway.....the company will never notice....they won't even notice what I take"....etc. Simply put....I honestly find that upper class folks have retained more of the traditional values that I was raised with. Manners, cleanliness, decency, ethics...all seem to be in better form with the upper class.
Just my opinion....I'm sure many will flame me here.
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
So much balderdash, so little time.
I run my own biz. I am considered "successful" and have a nice comfortable lifestyle.
I have NEVER "used the system unethically" nor have I compromised my own personal ethics in any way during my career. I would not even consider it, and have left other jobs I had prior to my own biz because they wanted me to do something I did not believe in.
It always amazes me how the media drives people before them like leaves in the wind...
You seemed to take this personally for some reason. The fact that you said you worked for someone who wanted you to do something unethical kind of proves the point that you have also seen unethical behavior.
Are the media also responsible for our experiences with car dealers, repair shops, realtors, the medical industry, the financial sector?
The media itself is quite unethical and many who have made money in media have done so with questionable ethics.
There are plenty of investigations into quick lube places, mortgage brokers etc etc.
It's great that you're providing your customers with goods and services in an ethical manner. You're exactly the kind of business I seek out and use.
So much balderdash, so little time.
I run my own biz. I am considered "successful" and have a nice comfortable lifestyle.
I have NEVER "used the system unethically" nor have I compromised my own personal ethics in any way during my career. I would not even consider it, and have left other jobs I had prior to my own biz because they wanted me to do something I did not believe in.
It always amazes me how the media drives people before them like leaves in the wind...
You seemed to take this personally for some reason. The fact that you said you worked for someone who wanted you to do something unethical kind of proves the point that you have also seen unethical behavior.
Are the media also responsible for our experiences with car dealers, repair shops, realtors, the medical industry, the financial sector?
The media itself is quite unethical and many who have made money in media have done so with questionable ethics.
There are plenty of investigations into quick lube places, mortgage brokers etc etc.
It's great that you're providing your customers with goods and services in an ethical manner. You're exactly the kind of business I seek out and use.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: EType
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me. It matters not if another person has more than you as a way of excusing or shifting focus away from common theft. Plenty of wealthy folks got that way from hard work and exhibiting integrity on their way up the economic ladder. This garbage about the 'rich' (it's become a bad word) being any more unethical than the average American is pure bunk. I'm working class myself and harbor ZERO negativity toward the wealthy. I applaud them. They provide income for others, they actually PRODUCE things and contribute to our society. No, they are not all honest or ethical....but in proportion to the average citizen I would say that they are at least equal in ethical standards if not above. I just get so tired of this constant mantra that being highly successful means you are 'bad' some way or got where you are from ripping off people. It's hogwash.
Back on the direct point....stealing has no valid excuse. Shoplifters and thieves should suffer to the highest degree possible under the law.
Interesting perspective.
Since I was the person who posted up the article about the wealthy being less ethical, perhaps I should reveal that on paper, I would indeed be one of the wealthy.
The reason for posting up something scientific is to establish a truth that is less biased than personal perspective.
My own thoughts are that many rich people do work hard - perhaps it is better to say are more disciplined, and that is certainly an admirable trait to emulate when you're trying to make it.
But part of making it requires an understanding of the system and those that really make it use the system the best and often unethically.
I am afraid to say that some poorer people, not exposed as much to how things work, simplify things and equate all success to hard work alone. Many of those people work as hard but don't make it because they're not working hard at the right things or are unwilling to compromise their ethics.
I didn't mean to attack your post in particular, but I certainly take issue with the overwhelming slant in our current culture that demonizes the wealthy as somehow evil or unethical. That was my main point about your post. It's really not the poor vs. the wealthy when it comes to right and wrong. Today, many things that used to be black and white....are suddenly subjective and permeated with excuses or blame upon somebody that has achieved more. I have known MANY lower income people that are entirely without regard when it comes to ethics....far more in proportion than the upper class folks I have known. The excuse is always something like..."Oh, they are rich....they can afford it...I deserve it anyway.....the company will never notice....they won't even notice what I take"....etc. Simply put....I honestly find that upper class folks have retained more of the traditional values that I was raised with. Manners, cleanliness, decency, ethics...all seem to be in better form with the upper class.
Just my opinion....I'm sure many will flame me here.
Not at all. You make many points I agree with. In an earlier post you mentioned that what is being stolen is often not necessary to sustain life. I agree. It's all about consumer status symbols.
Just as you have great insights and those insights matter more because they are part of your daily reality, I have some other insights through my daily realities as well as other things I investigate.
That means that if we judge this through our perspectives only, we will have definite bias.
Therefore, a scientific study is more likely to have less bias. Of course, studies can be flawed and set up in a biased way as well.
Originally Posted By: EType
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Why is it that whenever there is mention of shoplifting or thievery of any kind.....so many of you do everything you can to make excuses by blaming business owners and the wealthy?? It sickens me. It matters not if another person has more than you as a way of excusing or shifting focus away from common theft. Plenty of wealthy folks got that way from hard work and exhibiting integrity on their way up the economic ladder. This garbage about the 'rich' (it's become a bad word) being any more unethical than the average American is pure bunk. I'm working class myself and harbor ZERO negativity toward the wealthy. I applaud them. They provide income for others, they actually PRODUCE things and contribute to our society. No, they are not all honest or ethical....but in proportion to the average citizen I would say that they are at least equal in ethical standards if not above. I just get so tired of this constant mantra that being highly successful means you are 'bad' some way or got where you are from ripping off people. It's hogwash.
Back on the direct point....stealing has no valid excuse. Shoplifters and thieves should suffer to the highest degree possible under the law.
Interesting perspective.
Since I was the person who posted up the article about the wealthy being less ethical, perhaps I should reveal that on paper, I would indeed be one of the wealthy.
The reason for posting up something scientific is to establish a truth that is less biased than personal perspective.
My own thoughts are that many rich people do work hard - perhaps it is better to say are more disciplined, and that is certainly an admirable trait to emulate when you're trying to make it.
But part of making it requires an understanding of the system and those that really make it use the system the best and often unethically.
I am afraid to say that some poorer people, not exposed as much to how things work, simplify things and equate all success to hard work alone. Many of those people work as hard but don't make it because they're not working hard at the right things or are unwilling to compromise their ethics.
I didn't mean to attack your post in particular, but I certainly take issue with the overwhelming slant in our current culture that demonizes the wealthy as somehow evil or unethical. That was my main point about your post. It's really not the poor vs. the wealthy when it comes to right and wrong. Today, many things that used to be black and white....are suddenly subjective and permeated with excuses or blame upon somebody that has achieved more. I have known MANY lower income people that are entirely without regard when it comes to ethics....far more in proportion than the upper class folks I have known. The excuse is always something like..."Oh, they are rich....they can afford it...I deserve it anyway.....the company will never notice....they won't even notice what I take"....etc. Simply put....I honestly find that upper class folks have retained more of the traditional values that I was raised with. Manners, cleanliness, decency, ethics...all seem to be in better form with the upper class.
Just my opinion....I'm sure many will flame me here.
Not at all. You make many points I agree with. In an earlier post you mentioned that what is being stolen is often not necessary to sustain life. I agree. It's all about consumer status symbols.
Just as you have great insights and those insights matter more because they are part of your daily reality, I have some other insights through my daily realities as well as other things I investigate.
That means that if we judge this through our perspectives only, we will have definite bias.
Therefore, a scientific study is more likely to have less bias. Of course, studies can be flawed and set up in a biased way as well.
Andrewg-
Could you please post some links where people are blaming the "rich" or have negativity towards the rich? I'm just becoming back active on this site so I would like to read these type of posts. I will assume that you are not talking about my post because I never stated to blame the "rich" for crimes or did I say I felt negativity about them. My dad is a successful business man and I grew up comfortable. Honestly my father is my role model because he came from another country, not knowing anyone to being the great person and provider he is today. I'm nowhere near rich, but I live a very comfortable life style at a ripe age of 31 (I'm a senior engineer with a major oil & gas company in Houston, so I'm blessed with a very great salary)....I only stated that the rich commit crimes too, typically with defrauding a lot of people as the main one. This isn’t envy, this is sad truth. I'm friends with a couple of millionaires and I do respect how a lot of them got to where they are today and love hearing their story. I have no envy, I try to match and exceed my own expectations.
If you are talking about my post, I'm sorry Madoff will forever be trash/thug in my eyes and there is nothing that you or anyone else can say to make me feel different. I like your fire in taking up for people you don't know or interact with. That’s noble of you. I break rich and wealthy out like this: Shaq, Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady those guys are rich, very rich. The man who is signing the checks, he is the wealthy one. As I stated in one of my previous post, I hate all lazy people who steal from hardworking people.
Could you please post some links where people are blaming the "rich" or have negativity towards the rich? I'm just becoming back active on this site so I would like to read these type of posts. I will assume that you are not talking about my post because I never stated to blame the "rich" for crimes or did I say I felt negativity about them. My dad is a successful business man and I grew up comfortable. Honestly my father is my role model because he came from another country, not knowing anyone to being the great person and provider he is today. I'm nowhere near rich, but I live a very comfortable life style at a ripe age of 31 (I'm a senior engineer with a major oil & gas company in Houston, so I'm blessed with a very great salary)....I only stated that the rich commit crimes too, typically with defrauding a lot of people as the main one. This isn’t envy, this is sad truth. I'm friends with a couple of millionaires and I do respect how a lot of them got to where they are today and love hearing their story. I have no envy, I try to match and exceed my own expectations.
If you are talking about my post, I'm sorry Madoff will forever be trash/thug in my eyes and there is nothing that you or anyone else can say to make me feel different. I like your fire in taking up for people you don't know or interact with. That’s noble of you. I break rich and wealthy out like this: Shaq, Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady those guys are rich, very rich. The man who is signing the checks, he is the wealthy one. As I stated in one of my previous post, I hate all lazy people who steal from hardworking people.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Years ago I worked at a music/cd store and we had back in the breakroom what we called The Wall Of Shame,and we always took a Polaroid picture of the scum that shoplifted and put it on the wall,haha!
You worked at Empire Records? Did you actually apprehend Warren Beatty? I loved your policy of frying up the offending party and serving treats to your customers. That would be cool.
Years ago I worked at a music/cd store and we had back in the breakroom what we called The Wall Of Shame,and we always took a Polaroid picture of the scum that shoplifted and put it on the wall,haha!
You worked at Empire Records? Did you actually apprehend Warren Beatty? I loved your policy of frying up the offending party and serving treats to your customers. That would be cool.
Btw, as someone who many others would categorize in the "rich" segment, I don't feel the common culture of the country is against me.
I do think there is a huge issue in terms of personal responsibility and accountability. But this is across society and one thing I have learnt about leadership is that you need to lead by example if you want to see change. It is no coincidence that a lack of ethics amongst business, political and other fields such as sports and charities, leads to a wider issue in society.
On a day to day basis, I am more on my guard about being ripped off by businesses run by the wealthy than anything else.
I do think there is a huge issue in terms of personal responsibility and accountability. But this is across society and one thing I have learnt about leadership is that you need to lead by example if you want to see change. It is no coincidence that a lack of ethics amongst business, political and other fields such as sports and charities, leads to a wider issue in society.
On a day to day basis, I am more on my guard about being ripped off by businesses run by the wealthy than anything else.
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Originally Posted By: threeputtpar
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Years ago I worked at a music/cd store and we had back in the breakroom what we called The Wall Of Shame,and we always took a Polaroid picture of the scum that shoplifted and put it on the wall,haha!
You worked at Empire Records? Did you actually apprehend Warren Beatty? I loved your policy of frying up the offending party and serving treats to your customers. That would be cool.
Haha nah,nowhere near that cool! I worked at a Hastings music store way back in the day.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Years ago I worked at a music/cd store and we had back in the breakroom what we called The Wall Of Shame,and we always took a Polaroid picture of the scum that shoplifted and put it on the wall,haha!
You worked at Empire Records? Did you actually apprehend Warren Beatty? I loved your policy of frying up the offending party and serving treats to your customers. That would be cool.
Haha nah,nowhere near that cool! I worked at a Hastings music store way back in the day.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
What about business owners who take cash to not report their income on their taxes? Any different? Theft all the same.
I actually consider that to be theft prevention...
What about business owners who take cash to not report their income on their taxes? Any different? Theft all the same.
I actually consider that to be theft prevention...
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
THe "where's my handout" class thinks they're entitled...
This times a million!!!!!! Years ago I worked at a music/cd store and we had back in the breakroom what we called The Wall Of Shame,and we always took a Polaroid picture of the scum that shoplifted and put it on the wall,haha!
Uh, no, it is only that they are not as savvy as the more sophisticated high earner theft:
SAP Palo Alto vice president arrested for LEGO scam
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
THe "where's my handout" class thinks they're entitled...
This times a million!!!!!! Years ago I worked at a music/cd store and we had back in the breakroom what we called The Wall Of Shame,and we always took a Polaroid picture of the scum that shoplifted and put it on the wall,haha!
Uh, no, it is only that they are not as savvy as the more sophisticated high earner theft:
SAP Palo Alto vice president arrested for LEGO scam
Originally Posted By: NightRiderQ45
Andrewg-
Could you please post some links where people are blaming the "rich" or have negativity towards the rich? I'm just becoming back active on this site so I would like to read these type of posts. I will assume that you are not talking about my post because I never stated to blame the "rich" for crimes or did I say I felt negativity about them. My dad is a successful business man and I grew up comfortable. Honestly my father is my role model because he came from another country, not knowing anyone to being the great person and provider he is today. I'm nowhere near rich, but I live a very comfortable life style at a ripe age of 31 (I'm a senior engineer with a major oil & gas company in Houston, so I'm blessed with a very great salary)....I only stated that the rich commit crimes too, typically with defrauding a lot of people as the main one. This isn’t envy, this is sad truth. I'm friends with a couple of millionaires and I do respect how a lot of them got to where they are today and love hearing their story. I have no envy, I try to match and exceed my own expectations.
If you are talking about my post, I'm sorry Madoff will forever be trash/thug in my eyes and there is nothing that you or anyone else can say to make me feel different. I like your fire in taking up for people you don't know or interact with. That’s noble of you. I break rich and wealthy out like this: Shaq, Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady those guys are rich, very rich. The man who is signing the checks, he is the wealthy one. As I stated in one of my previous post, I hate all lazy people who steal from hardworking people.
Not every point requires a post of links to support it, does it? I mean if you don't see that in the last several decades (or more) an increasing trend in popular culture (films, and other forms of media as well as educational institutions, government)to demonize American success and the wealthy....well, I don't know what to say. I was not addressing your post directly though.
Andrewg-
Could you please post some links where people are blaming the "rich" or have negativity towards the rich? I'm just becoming back active on this site so I would like to read these type of posts. I will assume that you are not talking about my post because I never stated to blame the "rich" for crimes or did I say I felt negativity about them. My dad is a successful business man and I grew up comfortable. Honestly my father is my role model because he came from another country, not knowing anyone to being the great person and provider he is today. I'm nowhere near rich, but I live a very comfortable life style at a ripe age of 31 (I'm a senior engineer with a major oil & gas company in Houston, so I'm blessed with a very great salary)....I only stated that the rich commit crimes too, typically with defrauding a lot of people as the main one. This isn’t envy, this is sad truth. I'm friends with a couple of millionaires and I do respect how a lot of them got to where they are today and love hearing their story. I have no envy, I try to match and exceed my own expectations.
If you are talking about my post, I'm sorry Madoff will forever be trash/thug in my eyes and there is nothing that you or anyone else can say to make me feel different. I like your fire in taking up for people you don't know or interact with. That’s noble of you. I break rich and wealthy out like this: Shaq, Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady those guys are rich, very rich. The man who is signing the checks, he is the wealthy one. As I stated in one of my previous post, I hate all lazy people who steal from hardworking people.
Not every point requires a post of links to support it, does it? I mean if you don't see that in the last several decades (or more) an increasing trend in popular culture (films, and other forms of media as well as educational institutions, government)to demonize American success and the wealthy....well, I don't know what to say. I was not addressing your post directly though.
Originally Posted By: EType
Btw, as someone who many others would categorize in the "rich" segment, I don't feel the common culture of the country is against me.
I do think there is a huge issue in terms of personal responsibility and accountability. But this is across society and one thing I have learnt about leadership is that you need to lead by example if you want to see change. It is no coincidence that a lack of ethics amongst business, political and other fields such as sports and charities, leads to a wider issue in society.
On a day to day basis, I am more on my guard about being ripped off by businesses run by the wealthy than anything else.
Understood. The leadership in this country is a far cry from what it could or should be. Across the board, from the wealthy to the poor, ethics and even morality has degraded equally. Still, I am far more comfortable around the upper crust (for lack of a better set of words) than my own class group. I prefer to be an individual and allow myself to be guided by my own set of ethics anyway. While current leadership in many areas is indeed poor these days....I find no excuse for myself or others to accept lower standards or to somehow blame poor leadership as the cause for poor behavior in themselves or others. Certainly doesn't help though.
Btw, as someone who many others would categorize in the "rich" segment, I don't feel the common culture of the country is against me.
I do think there is a huge issue in terms of personal responsibility and accountability. But this is across society and one thing I have learnt about leadership is that you need to lead by example if you want to see change. It is no coincidence that a lack of ethics amongst business, political and other fields such as sports and charities, leads to a wider issue in society.
On a day to day basis, I am more on my guard about being ripped off by businesses run by the wealthy than anything else.
Understood. The leadership in this country is a far cry from what it could or should be. Across the board, from the wealthy to the poor, ethics and even morality has degraded equally. Still, I am far more comfortable around the upper crust (for lack of a better set of words) than my own class group. I prefer to be an individual and allow myself to be guided by my own set of ethics anyway. While current leadership in many areas is indeed poor these days....I find no excuse for myself or others to accept lower standards or to somehow blame poor leadership as the cause for poor behavior in themselves or others. Certainly doesn't help though.
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