Ruger LCP .380

[Al]

Originally Posted By: Tom NJ

People criticize these little guns for their small sights and snappy recoil, but hey, this is not a range gun. It is intended for up close personal defense, especially when dressing light, and it fills that purpose well.

Ultimately why I stopped carrying the LCP and carry the G-42. I shoot the 42 as accurately as the 26. Not that hard to put all rounds in a 5" circle at 25 ft. I just can't do that with the LCP.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: bubbatime
The Ruger is a better copy of the Kel-Tec P3AT. The Taurus TCP is a copy of the same design as well. I have a very old, early model Ruger LCP and it has been flawless. 3500ish rounds down range, not one jam or problem ever. It’s the gun that EVERYONE that carries guns should have in their collection. Why? Because it’s so small you can be sure to have a gun on you always. When I’m at the beach with a bathing suit or wearing athletic running shorts I can still have a gun on me. I usually carry a Glock 26, 42, or 43 (own and carry all three), but when I’m wearing light clothing, the LCP gets the nod. Great carry gun, beats your fist or a stick.


Exactly why i have one. When you are wearing minimal clothes i.e shorts and a t shirt, you can still carry. Its better than the gun you left at home.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted By: PW01
Looking for a smaller carry weapon for summer. I’m interested in something lightweight and pocket sized to carry when wearing shorts and a tee shirt. My FIL loves his LCP and recommends it. Any owners care to comment?


I had the Ruger LCP and it performed flawlessly. Gave it to my daughter, who loves it.
In the same size, I then purchased and prefer the Beretta Pico.
Slightly larger and a more comfortable shooter is my Glock 42. The LCP is the least comfortable of the 3 to shoot thou.

 

[DriveHard]

Mine has been flawless. Nope, not fun to shoot, nope, not that accurate, but you can't beat how easy it is to CC.

 

[bubbatime]

Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Kahr CW380 is smaller. That little bit can mean a big difference in concealment. Kahrs, in general, for their barrel/capacity size are smaller in length and width than a lot of other pistols.


The Kahr has a flawed design. The feed ramp angle is EXTREME. As in, the bullet hits the feed ramp hard and is shoved back in the case. There isn't a Kahr pistol made that I would buy and carry. The entire line is junk of the highest order. I objectively evaluated LIKE TEN of them, and always came away extremely underwhelmed. I'd forget how bad they were, buy another, and again, decide that they are terrible. I'm done with them. Thousands of dollars down the drain. No more.

 

[bigj_16]

Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Kahr CW380 is smaller. That little bit can mean a big difference in concealment. Kahrs, in general, for their barrel/capacity size are smaller in length and width than a lot of other pistols.


The Kahr has a flawed design. The feed ramp angle is EXTREME. As in, the bullet hits the feed ramp hard and is shoved back in the case. There isn't a Kahr pistol made that I would buy and carry. The entire line is junk of the highest order. I objectively evaluated LIKE TEN of them, and always came away extremely underwhelmed. I'd forget how bad they were, buy another, and again, decide that they are terrible. I'm done with them. Thousands of dollars down the drain. No more.

I have three. I ran 200 rounds through them, as suggested. One CW380 had a failure to feed during that break-in, the CT9 and other CW380 had none. Since then, no problems. I run Buffalo Bore with the Barnes Copper bullet in all three.

 

[funflyer]

Originally Posted By: jhs914
Glock 42. A little bigger but more ergonomic, easier to control, more accurate, never jams. If your father-in-law's LCP has jams with stove pipes or failure to feed when others shoot it, it is because the shooters are limp wristing the pistol. Not hard to do with such a small grip. Try the Glock 42 or the slighter larger 43 in 9mm.



A much better choice, if we're going to stray slightly from a true pocket pistol, would be a Sig P365.

 

[littleant]

My Sig P238 sport has been outstanding. Easy to conceal.

 

[bubbatime]

Originally Posted By: funflyer
Originally Posted By: jhs914
Glock 42. A little bigger but more ergonomic, easier to control, more accurate, never jams. If your father-in-law's LCP has jams with stove pipes or failure to feed when others shoot it, it is because the shooters are limp wristing the pistol. Not hard to do with such a small grip. Try the Glock 42 or the slighter larger 43 in 9mm.


A much better choice, if we're going to stray slightly from a true pocket pistol, would be a Sig P365.


I disagree wholeheartedly. There are so many problems with the P365 right now. In actuality, anything made by Sig right now is likely to be problematic. The P320 is a joke. The P365 has serious flaws and needs a complete redesign. That gun isn't even close to ready for prime time.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/05/jeremy-s/gun-review-follow-up-sig-p365/

 

[853okg]

I don't own one, but several friends do and I've handled/shot with one. I agree with the guy who said it's a no-brainer. It's a Ruger that's cheap as chips. They seem quite reliable. One friend had trouble with lighter ammo and he ported it (just because) and lightened the slide with flutes and it worked flawlessly after that. I was in the middle of the country with my next door neighbor, at his buddy's hunting camp when, I swear to God, we were attacked by a rabid groundhog, frothing at the mouth. My neighbor emptied six rounds in the groundhog and it kept coming. We had to beat it with a shovel. I am NOT one of those "it has to be at least a forty" kind of guys, but I admit this did raise my eyebrows (it was ball ammo, BTW). I saw a silver cerakote model recently that looked good. They are deeply concealable, although I'd never put one in my back pocket. I wouldn't even put my wallet in my back pocket, let alone a firearm.

 

[funflyer]

Originally Posted By: bubbatime


I disagree wholeheartedly. There are so many problems with the P365 right now. In actuality, anything made by Sig right now is likely to be problematic. The P320 is a joke. The P365 has serious flaws and needs a complete redesign. That gun isn't even close to ready for prime time.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/05/jeremy-s/gun-review-follow-up-sig-p365/



Yep, and Sig has already started making design changes to those problematic parts. Just like Glock took over a year or longer to make the G42 dependable. Again, my point was that the P365 is and always will be, a better choice for pocket carry than a G42, or 43 will ever be.

 

[billt460]

Originally Posted By: funflyer
Again, my point was that the P365 is and always will be, a better choice for pocket carry than a G42, or 43 will ever be.


I would NEVER choose ANY Sig over any Glock from a dependability standpoint. And I own several of both.

 

[brianm_14]

Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
I got the chance to fire a magazine full from a Sig Sauer 938 at the range where I'm a member this week, I was highly impressed with it for a 9mm CCW option. Previously I'd been looking at Sig Sauer 238 .380 7 round mag.


Yes, the, the P938 is a class act. Just add the soft grips to tame recoil and improve handling if hands are wet or sweaty. I am very impressed by the new P365, if you can find one. I really like both the P938 and the P365.

Try to find a range that has each to try. I've also got the Ruger LCP II, so I can speak from experience: I may not be keeping it, although it is one step "deeper" in terms of concealment. Hard to justify any .380 ACP any longer!

 

[brianm_14]

This review (see link, or better yet, don't waste your time) and series of comments on the P365 is a joke, an example of the worst the Internet has to offer. It is rumor and innuendo, a Sig-bashing frenzy that sounds just like a bunch of teenagers whining. There is a whole lot of growing up needed there! Don't buy into it. The P365 is not a flawed pistol. That drivel Is anything BUT the truth about guns. It is a merely a group of people who want to hear only what they want to hear, and will filter out the rest.

My P365 shoots amazingly well, as do my other Sigs, whether of very recent or older vintage. Whatever problems there might or might not have been in other peoples' pistols were fixed by Sig - of course! Mine had none. The P938 and P365 are great, highly concealable, pistols in a great cartridge. The P320 is a great example of Internet shark feeding frenzy and urban myths.

 

[john_pifer]

I have the P938. It shoots great, but it's not without issues. It has a 2-piece guide rod that has the tendency to come unscrewed by the vibration and shock of recoil forces (which mine did). Why Sig didn't make this as a one-piece design, I'll never know. I had to send mine back to Sig for replacement, and the replacement rod is the same design. I fully expect that it will come apart again eventually after I shoot it enough. That said, I'm confident enough in the pistol that I rely on it as my EDC.

As for the P365, a highly-respected handgun reviewer (Tim Harmsen of the Military Arms Channel) has uncovered some serious problems with the P365:





As for the P320, it's pretty disgusting of Sig to have modified the non-drop-safe handguns that were destined for the US military, but didn't do the same for over 500,000 handguns that went to the commercial/law enforcement market:

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/06/investigates/sig-sauer-p320-drop-fire/