Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by burla
Funny a lot of people suggest "modern" engine oil when modern engine oil has continuously taken out aw/ep additives. Lifter tick happens to be an extreme pressure condition. I guess 2 plus 2 equals 10 around here, or something along those lines. Look at the high moly additives and oils on the market if rislone ever stops working. I'd say oil soluble ones that are ester based are less risky then powdered moly in suspension, but many guys have had luck with both. But for now, if it aint broke don't fix it, seams like you found your winner, as long as it isn't corrosive like chlorinated paraffins chances are it is doing more good then harm. They also have none moly additives that attempt to do the same thing, molygen motor protect may be one. Turns out to be tungsten, but there are others as well, titanium and stuff. The paper out there suggests moly is still the gold standard.
But even your favorite oil doesn't contain "EP" additives other than ZDDP for anti-wear, correct? Not the same additives as in a gear oil, no responsible oil blender would do that.
So other than ZDDP what EP additives were present in the past that are not today?
I'm not sure what your hang up is other then trolling, but I was referring to lubegard's biotech not any oil. And moly is the EP additive, so I don't know what you are talking about there as well. Now to mention esters which by themselves can also EP additives. You seam hung up on brand and not formula. If someone has a condition that is causing extreme pressures and it is manifesting itself in "noise", then use science to come up with a strategy to address it if you can't and don't want to address it mechanically. As it turns out, this often works. But, if the engine is ticking on some random oil, just using super tech because all of the "oil guys" love it, aint gonna work. People around here refuse to add the constant testimonials to their knowledge base, they would literally rather attack the character of a forum member then accept the fact sometimes the science gets t right, that sometimes the additives that are meant to do a job actually do that job. Actually you guys are a broke joke and not helping anyone with this. Try accepting the fact that many guys are killing these ticks with good science and then figure out why and earn that oil guy designation you give yourselves.