Redline releases Professional Series

[burla]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Been around for a while, I believe not all that long after CP acquired them. These are just your typical primarily group III products with OEM approvals, a lot like AMSOIL's XL line in some respects.


LOL, try emailing because unlike other companies they will tell you exactly what it is.

 

[burla]

All joking aside, all they need now is a lspi quencher oil and literally run the market for that segment. Nobody has a 500ppm moly, ester/pao based low calcium high mag oil. Eventually redline will, and people with di turbo's will have something much better then ANYTHING on the market, if you beleive what has been said about what quenches lspi. But I can see how true oil guys would hate the fact that an oil like this would exist, much better to swoon over group 3 stuff, yeah team.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by burla
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Been around for a while, I believe not all that long after CP acquired them. These are just your typical primarily group III products with OEM approvals, a lot like AMSOIL's XL line in some respects.


LOL, try emailing because unlike other companies they will tell you exactly what it is.


I'm not sure why you felt that warranted an "LOL"

The Professional Series 0w-20, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w-20, ~90% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w30, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w-40 Diesel oil, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w30 Turbo Diesel Euro oil, ~55% Group III, ~20% PAO:

The Professional Series 5w-40 Euro Oil, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

There's literally ONE OIL in the entire lineup that has PAO in it, and it isn't a lot.

 

[claluja]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by burla
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Been around for a while, I believe not all that long after CP acquired them. These are just your typical primarily group III products with OEM approvals, a lot like AMSOIL's XL line in some respects.


LOL, try emailing because unlike other companies they will tell you exactly what it is.


I'm not sure why you felt that warranted an "LOL"

The Professional Series 0w-20, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w-20, ~90% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w30, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w-40 Diesel oil, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

The Professional Series 5w30 Turbo Diesel Euro oil, ~55% Group III, ~20% PAO:

The Professional Series 5w-40 Euro Oil, ~85% Group III, no PAO:

There's literally ONE OIL in the entire lineup that has PAO in it, and it isn't a lot.


Ester?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by claluja


Ester?


Not sure what your question is? The MSDS's show one product in the entire Professional line to have PAO in it. The rest of the oils are entirely Group III based. I doubt this product line, being cheaper than their premium one, uses much, if any, esters.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by oil_film_movies
This Redline stuff is about comparable to walmart SuperTech dexos1 oil.

That's mouth-dropping news, if correct.



I don't agree RP has done this with its API line since it's induction.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted by burla
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Been around for a while, I believe not all that long after CP acquired them. These are just your typical primarily group III products with OEM approvals, a lot like AMSOIL's XL line in some respects.


LOL, try emailing because unlike other companies they will tell you exactly what it is.



No Red Line does not.

 

[claluja]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by claluja


Ester?


Not sure what your question is? The MSDS's show one product in the entire Professional line to have PAO in it. The rest of the oils are entirely Group III based. I doubt this product line, being cheaper than their premium one, uses much, if any, esters.


Ester is around 5% in the 5w 40 based on oxidation. Don't know about the others in the professional series.

 

[nthach]

Something tells me this is re-labeled Kendall GT-1 Max or P66 Synthetic.

 

[burla]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Been around for a while, I believe not all that long after CP acquired them. These are just your typical primarily group III products with OEM approvals, a lot like AMSOIL's XL line in some respects.


This was your post, is that correct information? You just put forward the proof this isn't correct, cool.

 

[oil_film_movies]

Problem is, this Redline Professional Series is like walmart's SuperTech, and priced 3 times as much. Trading on the "Redline" racing name. Their other Redline oils are good, yet Pro Series are just average, from a lack of PAO and/or POE. PAO is in one flavor, but not that much in just that one weight.
For example, if given the choice of cheap Castrol Magnatec 0w20 vs. running this expensive Redline Pro Series 0w20, I'd pick Magnatec every time.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by burla
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Been around for a while, I believe not all that long after CP acquired them. These are just your typical primarily group III products with OEM approvals, a lot like AMSOIL's XL line in some respects.


This was your post, is that correct information? You just put forward the proof this isn't correct, cool.


Please highlight the specific section are you having difficulty with.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by oil_film_movies
Problem is, this Redline Professional Series is like walmart's SuperTech, and priced 3 times as much. Trading on the "Redline" racing name. Their other Redline oils are good, yet Pro Series are just average, from a lack of PAO and/or POE. PAO is in one flavor, but not that much in just that one weight.
For example, if given the choice of cheap Castrol Magnatec 0w20 vs. running this expensive Redline Pro Series 0w20, I'd pick Magnatec every time.


Exactly

 

[buster]

Smaller companies like Redline simply can not achieve the economies of scale the larger companies can. For many consumers it's often not understood why smaller businesses charge more for a competitive product from a larger company. And when you look at the oil industry and see how there are only several major additive and base oil suppliers. So if you are a small boutique blender you have to offer something very unique and specific or really make it perform better than what is available. Now that RL is owned by CP I don't know how much control and change has affected RL's approach. I mean essentially these oils could be just called CP's top tier OEM approved oils sold under the RL label to make people "think" they are getting something that is better than it really is.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted by burla
All joking aside, all they need now is a lspi quencher oil and literally run the market for that segment. Nobody has a 500ppm moly, ester/pao based low calcium high mag oil. Eventually redline will, and people with di turbo's will have something much better then ANYTHING on the market, if you beleive what has been said about what quenches lspi. But I can see how true oil guys would hate the fact that an oil like this would exist, much better to swoon over group 3 stuff, yeah team.


Actually, Ravenol DOES, in their 5w30 DXG, and 0W-20 DFE offerings (but I am not sure on their actual moly PPM content, nor whether they are using the older dimer type stuff like Red LIne does, or the newer Infineum trimer type stuff like Mobil 1) .

But yes, I would use Red Line in a tenth of a heartbeat if they came up with a D1G2/SN+ oil with the moly levels, and at least the PAO/POE base stock contents of their racing/'regular' street oils.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by dailydriver
Originally Posted by burla
All joking aside, all they need now is a lspi quencher oil and literally run the market for that segment. Nobody has a 500ppm moly, ester/pao based low calcium high mag oil. Eventually redline will, and people with di turbo's will have something much better then ANYTHING on the market, if you beleive what has been said about what quenches lspi. But I can see how true oil guys would hate the fact that an oil like this would exist, much better to swoon over group 3 stuff, yeah team.


Actually, Ravenol DOES, in their 5w30 DXG, and 0W-20 DFE offerings.

But yes, I would use Red Line in a tenth of a heartbeat if they came up with a D1G2/SN+ oil with the moly levels, and at least the PAO/POE base stock contents of their racing/'regular' street oils.

Yes, Ravenol seems to be a pretty unique player here, offering OEM certified lubricants that are formulated using only premium base oils in a dedicated series.

 

[Revving2Redline]

I am a little disappointed that the pro series is what it is. I liked it when had race oil/street oil only. Now we have did like Amsoil and stooped to a Grp3 like their xl and oe.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted by burla
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Been around for a while, I believe not all that long after CP acquired them. These are just your typical primarily group III products with OEM approvals, a lot like AMSOIL's XL line in some respects.


LOL, try emailing because unlike other companies they will tell you exactly what it is.



No Red Line does not.

 

[burla]

yes, redline does too. Anyone not an Amsoil shill try emailing them with any reasonable question about any of their products. find out for yourself. Other forums I am on have asked near 50 questions about formula, always straight forward answer, they are KNOWN for it. Every single person not an amsoil shill is blwon away by their honesty. But there is a group here that hardly matters what the truth is they are invested in thier disinformation campaign. like I said, email dave with a question, Ill eat my hat if he doesn't answer. We have a thread where at least 50 of his posted about formula, stuff no other oil company does. Anything from levels to vii's, to level of ester, whatever. It is embarassing to suggest they don't.

 

[buster]

Dave G. from RL is pretty straightfoward. When I would ask him questions he never dodged them and was direct. FWIW.