https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2244.pdf
Amsoil is a fine product but... That is an advertisement, not a "field trial".
Why was that post locked? To keep it a pure advertisement with no chance for rebuttal? If you want to call it a field study then it should be open for discussion.
There were a few, shall we say, exagerations I had trouble with when portraying the cost of a conventional oil change. Especially when they used commercial pricing for the cost of Amsoil. Wouldn't the company qualify for commercial pricing for conventional oil? Why would a company pay $1.85 a quart for conventional oil that caused the engines to be worn out in 150,000 miles? And $4.88 for a 5000 mile filter? With a fleet of 60 vehicles I would think they would be able to swing a little better deal than that. Any Joe off the street with no bulk purchasing power can purchase oil at RETAIL for $1.57/qt and $2.07 for a filter that will easily last 5000 miles.
Re-run the numbers on page 2 using 5000 mile OCI for the conventional oil and the retail prices of $1.57/qt of oil and $2.07 per filter.
Oil&filter cost $11.49
Labor cost: $10.00
cost to change oil per truck: $21.49
multiplied by number of yearly oil changes: 7.2 (5000 mile OCI)
Cost to change oil per truck per year: $154.73
multiplied by 60 vehicles: $9283.80
minus Amsoil cost (Commercial pricing) $9657.00
Total additional cost for Amsoil: $373.20
And what happened to the other "routine maintenance" that the trucks were in for supposedly monthly when they had conventional oil? It suddenly isn't necessary? They tout that the trucks had 12 days of down time per year before, and only 3 now. They suddenly don't need brakes, tire rotations, chassis lubes, etc now that they have Amsoil?
Finally, the trucks lasting an additional 50,000 miles when the mechanic was only looking at the trucks 3 times per year vs. 12 times per year seemed a little far fetched. Since the only thing they changed was the engine oil, the implication is that the engine wore out and was the limiting factor on the life of the truck. I don't buy that synthetic changed at 12k will give 33% more engine life than conventional changed at (their claim) 3k miles.
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Sorry if this sounded like a rant against Amsoil the product. It's really not. What set me off was seeing the ADVERTISEMENT posted and called a "field trial" with no chance to reply.
Amsoil is a fine product but... That is an advertisement, not a "field trial".
Why was that post locked? To keep it a pure advertisement with no chance for rebuttal? If you want to call it a field study then it should be open for discussion.
There were a few, shall we say, exagerations I had trouble with when portraying the cost of a conventional oil change. Especially when they used commercial pricing for the cost of Amsoil. Wouldn't the company qualify for commercial pricing for conventional oil? Why would a company pay $1.85 a quart for conventional oil that caused the engines to be worn out in 150,000 miles? And $4.88 for a 5000 mile filter? With a fleet of 60 vehicles I would think they would be able to swing a little better deal than that. Any Joe off the street with no bulk purchasing power can purchase oil at RETAIL for $1.57/qt and $2.07 for a filter that will easily last 5000 miles.
Re-run the numbers on page 2 using 5000 mile OCI for the conventional oil and the retail prices of $1.57/qt of oil and $2.07 per filter.
Oil&filter cost $11.49
Labor cost: $10.00
cost to change oil per truck: $21.49
multiplied by number of yearly oil changes: 7.2 (5000 mile OCI)
Cost to change oil per truck per year: $154.73
multiplied by 60 vehicles: $9283.80
minus Amsoil cost (Commercial pricing) $9657.00
Total additional cost for Amsoil: $373.20
And what happened to the other "routine maintenance" that the trucks were in for supposedly monthly when they had conventional oil? It suddenly isn't necessary? They tout that the trucks had 12 days of down time per year before, and only 3 now. They suddenly don't need brakes, tire rotations, chassis lubes, etc now that they have Amsoil?
Finally, the trucks lasting an additional 50,000 miles when the mechanic was only looking at the trucks 3 times per year vs. 12 times per year seemed a little far fetched. Since the only thing they changed was the engine oil, the implication is that the engine wore out and was the limiting factor on the life of the truck. I don't buy that synthetic changed at 12k will give 33% more engine life than conventional changed at (their claim) 3k miles.
My
Sorry if this sounded like a rant against Amsoil the product. It's really not. What set me off was seeing the ADVERTISEMENT posted and called a "field trial" with no chance to reply.
