Quick oil change shop only has 5-30

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I was lazy plus the coupon was less than the cost of me doing the job. Went to a Valvoline oil change place to get a change done on the 1990 Jaguar. In customary nature of British type cars, my Jag tends to weep oil out of some aged gaskets.

Told the guy the oil I wanted and he said they only carry 5-30. They do have 10-30 high mileage but will need to charge extra for it. Hm? I guess it is back to me doing my own oil change because 5-30 would find every little pin hole that exists on my aged Jaguar. On the 95F days I have no idea what would happen on the sloping flat head cam cover gasket.

The guy said that the new cars need the lower weight oil and there isn't a need for the higher weights. Hm????? But they do have 10-30 but charge a premium for it. Could it all be a marketing thing? There are plenty of older cars on the road.
 
I take my S2000 to a quick lube place. I bring my own oil, filter, and crush washer then watch them closely through the window. They charge me $10 and I don't have to get under the car or dispose of oil.
 
urdrwho:

Sorry to hear about your issue with the quick lube, but I'm also glad that you refused to pay more for the 10w30 which is actually cheaper to produce and is still used by many cars today. I'm really surprised that they didn't simply give you the same price for that oil. Their loss. I wish more folks would walk if they don't like the way a business operates, especially service oriented types.
 
not to burst your 5w30 bubble but there isnt much difference at 95F between 5w30 or 10w30 and even less at 200F

or do you usually use something like 10w40?

your post doesnt include the necessary information..
like what you usually use.

I'd be far more worried about them stipping a drain plug
or damaging the filter.
 
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Originally Posted By: Rand
not to burst your 5w30 bubble but there isnt much difference at 95F between 5w30 or 10w30 and even less at 200F

or do you usually use something like 10w40?

your post doesnt include the necessary information..
like what you usually use.

I'd be far more worried about them stipping a drain plug
or damaging the filter.


Or not change the filter at all...
 
I've used at least 10-40 in the car since I bought it and I've put 100,000 miles on it using heavier oil. The tolerances in the XJ40 engine are not tight.

In the early 1990's I had a SIII Jaguar. It was in the beginning of the syn oil phase and in my infinite wisdom I decided to use syn oil. The stuff was great at leaking out of any and all gaskets. Ya can't just drop the bottom pan and install new gaskets, it becomes an expensive ordeal.

So yes I would be using at least 10-40.

Stripping a drain plug? Yes in 2002 they did that to my Jag. It cost them $350. I was kind and didn't go for a new pan but I took it to a good Jag mechanic and he fixed it for $350.
 
I take my old oil to a parts place. The problem is not spilling the stuff and making a mess.
 
Originally Posted By: urdrwho

The guy said that the new cars need the lower weight oil and there isn't a need for the higher weights.



Excluding all the German cars of the last 20 years, of course...

I would not be giving that place my money if I were you.
 
Is yours one of the older Jags that specs 20W50? I always pour my used oil into an empty 5 quart jug and save it till I have a reason to be near an AZ store. I saw a guy carrying in a full oil drain pan into the store one time. I dont see how he kept from spilling it all over the place.
 
It was a Valvoline Quick lube - the High Mileage oil they were trying to use was likely MaxLife. Being a semi synthetic - it does cost more. The 10w30 might have worked - OTOH 10W-40 MaxLife would probably be perfect. Print your $5 Walmart coupon and have at it. $11.27 + tax.
 
Most cars on the road today would be fine with a 5w30, so that's the default oil used.
Most Jag owners don't show up at the local quicky lube, so they don't stock an appropriate oil.
For most cars, there is no need for anything more than a thirty grade, so that's what the joint has in its bulk tank.
At least they told you what you'd actually be getting.
 
Yes 20-50 is in the owners manual it can be used and I did use it. It takes 7.5 quarts of oil, a thirsty cat,
 
Not true about jag owners showing up at quickie lube places. Older Jag owners are not the well heeled individuals that buy the new XF Jags. We also do a lot of our own work.
 
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
So they wanted to charge more for product that actually costs less. That's funny


Thats not quite correct. One wsa conventional 5w30 and the other was 10w30 HM, which for valvoline is Maxlife. Even it it was maxlife 10w30, maxlife is a more expensive oil to produce than conventional regardless if it was 10w30.
 
You went to VIOC... What did you expect. Try another shop if you want something different. I don't know how they run a business if they don't keep quarts of odd stuff on the shelf.
 
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: Clevy
So they wanted to charge more for product that actually costs less. That's funny


Thats not quite correct. One wsa conventional 5w30 and the other was 10w30 HM, which for valvoline is Maxlife. Even it it was maxlife 10w30, maxlife is a more expensive oil to produce than conventional regardless if it was 10w30.


Are you absolutely certain it costs valvoline more to produce maxlfe,or do we just assume it costs more.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: Clevy
So they wanted to charge more for product that actually costs less. That's funny


Thats not quite correct. One wsa conventional 5w30 and the other was 10w30 HM, which for valvoline is Maxlife. Even it it was maxlife 10w30, maxlife is a more expensive oil to produce than conventional regardless if it was 10w30.


Are you absolutely certain it costs valvoline more to produce maxlfe,or do we just assume it costs more.


Maxlife is part synthetic. It costs more to make group III and not to mention the better additive package costs more.
 
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