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Quick question for any avid vaping enthusiasts here.

I recently picked up vaping again after many years of absence (went back to cigarettes, but now kicked them for the past 2 weeks!)

It looks like things have changed A LOT in 5 years I have been out.

Back in the day the Efest and MNKE batteries were the go to batteries for high amperage applications. I just bought a new 200w PV that I plan on running a sub ohm RDA. I purchased 2 of the 2016 Efest 3000mAh 35A 18650s and have now been doing some research and found that many people are saying these are unsafe and run the risk of venting / runaway reaction / catastrophic failure. Is this all paranoia or are these batteries any more dangerous than any others? Anyone have any first hand experience with these Efest batteries? Should I just trash them or give them a shot?
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Can you explain "vaping"?

From what I understand one uses a battery powered device that creates vapor and then sucks on the device causing these vapors to enter the lungs.

Is there something I'm missing, here?
 
No you are pretty spot on. It's a water vapor that is flavored in thousands of different awesome flavors. You inhale the water vapor with nicotine and exhale just nice smelling vapor minus the nicotine because it has entered your body through the lungs of course. I've been vaping for almost a year even though I wasn't a prior smoker. I chewed upwards of two cans of dip a day and now the smell of the chew alone makes me gag. I wouldn't go back for anything.
 
While I can't comment on the batteries, the stuff you inhale is definitely not "just" flavored water. The substance is totally uncontrolled for now. Just looking at the food industry, their artificial colorants and flavors are some of the nastiest chemicals for our bodies, I can't imaging the vaping chemical being any better.
 
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i won't comment on the vaping, but would comment that you shouldn't cheap out on the batteries in this application
This is a device that you're putting it right on your face at the time that you're activating it.

If it's a flashlight or a hoverboard or even your smart phone, chances are you won't get burned if the battery catches fire.
But if this thing blows up, chances are it's when you're sucking on it.
 
Originally Posted By: jk_636
Quick question for any avid vaping enthusiasts here.

I recently picked up vaping again after many years of absence (went back to cigarettes, but now kicked them for the past 2 weeks!)

It looks like things have changed A LOT in 5 years I have been out.

Back in the day the Efest and MNKE batteries were the go to batteries for high amperage applications. I just bought a new 200w PV that I plan on running a sub ohm RDA. I purchased 2 of the 2016 Efest 3000mAh 35A 18650s and have now been doing some research and found that many people are saying these are unsafe and run the risk of venting / runaway reaction / catastrophic failure. Is this all paranoia or are these batteries any more dangerous than any others? Anyone have any first hand experience with these Efest batteries? Should I just trash them or give them a shot?
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I know that some of the vape batteries are prohibited as checked luggage on airlines, so yes there is some danger in those high energy applications. Hate for one of them to go off in your car on a hot day for example.


Originally Posted By: KrisZ
While I can't comment on the batteries, the stuff you inhale is definitely not "just" flavored water. The substance is totally uncontrolled for now. Just looking at the food industry, their artificial colorants and flavors are some of the nastiest chemicals for our bodies, I can't imaging the vaping chemical being any better.


Don't like being a party pooper, but this is 100%. Recent article (in print, not online) had a lab analysis showing several carcinogens contained in the vapor.
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
While I can't comment on the batteries, the stuff you inhale is definitely not "just" flavored water. The substance is totally uncontrolled for now. Just looking at the food industry, their artificial colorants and flavors are some of the nastiest chemicals for our bodies, I can't imaging the vaping chemical being any better.


Most of the vapor solutions contain propylene glycol or glycerin. There haven't yet been any long term studies to determine if inhaling vapor from these solutions causes health problems. On the surface it seems like vaping is less harmful than smoking, but only time will tell.
 
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
While I can't comment on the batteries, the stuff you inhale is definitely not "just" flavored water. The substance is totally uncontrolled for now. Just looking at the food industry, their artificial colorants and flavors are some of the nastiest chemicals for our bodies, I can't imaging the vaping chemical being any better.


Most of the vapor solutions contain propylene glycol or glycerin. There haven't yet been any long term studies to determine if inhaling vapor from these solutions causes health problems. On the surface it seems like vaping is less harmful than smoking, but only time will tell.


exactly why i choose heroin, no nasty long term effects
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to stick that in their mouth and suck on it. What's the point?

When we were in Colorado in April I saw a couple people "vaping" (first time I'd ever seen it). Quite frankly I don't see the point. It can't taste all that great, it's a chemical soup of things like Diacetyl, 2,3-Pentanedione, and Acetoin, and "vaping" screams "I found an exciting new way to look just as foolish as tobacco users".
 
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exactly why i choose heroin, no nasty long term effects
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[/quote] Heh heh 'specially if it is cut with fentonyl
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Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
I can't imagine why anyone would want to stick that in their mouth and suck on it. What's the point?

When we were in Colorado in April I saw a couple people "vaping" (first time I'd ever seen it). Quite frankly I don't see the point. It can't taste all that great, it's a chemical soup of things like Diacetyl, 2,3-Pentanedione, and Acetoin, and "vaping" screams "I found an exciting new way to look just as foolish as tobacco users".


If you don't understand or see why people use it, then you have no chance to try to convince them not to use it.

Your post reads very much like the marie antoinette's anecdote, when told the people don't have bread to eat, replies "then let them eat cake", with a misunderstanding that there is just a temporary disruption of the baked goods supply chain and not comprehending poverty.

Back on topic, the whole point is that it is a drug delivery device that delivers a highly addictive drug that has a real effect, it's not because it just looks cool or provides nutrition or flavor.
 
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I Wasn't happy when some unqualified member of my department vaped around the other guys in a closed room. My problem: if I can smell the flavor, then what was he exhaling that I was then breathing in? I doubt the fumes were nicotine and chemical-free. Regardless of how little of the bad stuff I was breathing in, I was breathing in things that I didn't agree to. Any amount is unacceptable, right? I digress.

My mom smokes like a chimney. I'm interested in this thread to maybe talk her into something...safer?
 
It looks like there is some confusion here.

Thanks for the feedback, but I was hoping to hear from people with some first hand experience using these high drain batteries in high amperage applications, not to get into the politics of vaping or the health benefits over cigarettes.

Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Can you explain "vaping"?

From what I understand one uses a battery powered device that creates vapor and then sucks on the device causing these vapors to enter the lungs.

Is there something I'm missing, here?


No your pretty spot on. It is essentially a battery powered heating unit that vaporizes a liquid mixture of Vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol (or a mixture of the two) and nicotine (optional). It is primarily used by people who want to stop smoking and are looking for a healthier way to get steadily reduced levels of nicotine than smoking a traditional cigarette.
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
While I can't comment on the batteries, the stuff you inhale is definitely not "just" flavored water. The substance is totally uncontrolled for now. Just looking at the food industry, their artificial colorants and flavors are some of the nastiest chemicals for our bodies, I can't imaging the vaping chemical being any better.


It is hilarious to watch people eat a McDonald's Hamburger while preaching to others about the dangers of the chemicals in an ecigarette. There are more harmful, cancer causing compounds in that hamburger and that diet drink than I have in my little steam machine (not saying your one of those but it is funny to watch.) It reminds me of Rob Reiner in that South Park episode.
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FYI there are all organic lines of ejuices out there. They are definitely a better option, just more expensive.

Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
Unregulated vaping device
Unregulated vaping fluid
Unregulated batteries
No real testing for long term effects

...yeah...what can possibly go wrong?


Aspartame: Known neurotoxin. FDA Approved.
Fluoride: Also a known neurotoxin. FDA Approved.
Thiomersal: Mercury derivative. Another well known neurotoxin. FDA Approved.

Your diet cokes, water and vaccines are more dangerous than my little organic Vegetable Glycerin.

But feel free to trust whomever you like!

Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Could you use something like liquid cocaine?


No...just....no...
 
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