QSGB and QSUD users

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Originally Posted By: Tomcat_80
Hello folks and how many of you folks here use either the QSGB and QSUD and like or dislike it? I have been using the QSGB 5W20 in a friends car for oil changes. No complaints from him. My father will NEVER use it or PYB for some reason, as he uses Valvoline. Anyways, I did some looking and cant believe the "stories and old wives tales" bout it causing sludge etc. Thanks in advance for the replies guys.


The Pennsylvania brand oils used to use paraffinic Pennsylvania crude as its base, which was a very good oil for hot weather, but tended to get waxy or sludgy when exposed to cold and water. Indeed the whole concept of a conventional oil Viscosity Index exceeding 100 is based on the superior hot qualities of QS and Pennzoil.

It's been more than 2 decades since either brand has used Pennsylvania crude, but some folks haven't caught on yet.
 
Originally Posted By: sevenznuf
what is in this oil that quiets motors more than most oils? thinking about trying this.


QSGB has high boron content, which from what I understand is an additive that acts as a friction modifier to make the oil more slippery and also has some cleaning ability. But boron also provides a "cushion" between parts that quiets down engine operation. I have no personal experience with it yet but I wanna try it soon and see for myself. Many members here swear by it. As proof of the boron content, if you click the link below you'll see for yourself in this virgin oil analysis that compared to the other popular name-brand conventionals on the market it beats them all in boron level. The test is from two years ago but those are still current SN spec.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresultssep2011.html
 
Hey cheesepuffs thanks for the explanation, I think I'm gonna try the 5w30 qsgb. Like I said in another post on this thread I've heard for yrs to stay away from qs but I figured all oil brands had probly improved
 
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Originally Posted By: sevenznuf
Hey cheesepuffs thanks for the explanation, I think I'm gonna try the 5w30 qsgb. Like I said in another post on this thread I've heard for yrs to stay away from qs but I figured all oil brands had probly improved


Oh yeah, nothing to worry about at all with QS man. The way these formulations change over the years (to meet newer specs) they aren't even close to the same oil as they were in generations past. Pennzoil had the same "wax/sludge" reputation too back in the day but you'll find that Pennzoil is one of this forums' favorite brands, generally speaking and is a great product.

The current SN spec oils are all really close in performance anyway, realistically speaking. Even if you just picked the bottle that looked the coolest to you, you'd still be getting a good product. There's really no bad option among the name-brands. But try QS, see if it does quiet your engine down. You might not notice a different but even still you're getting a great oil and at least you'll know. Or it might make a big difference and you might never wanna go back!
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Either way QS is not going to hurt anything.
 
Originally Posted By: sevenznuf
Hey cheesepuffs thanks for the explanation, I think I'm gonna try the 5w30 qsgb. Like I said in another post on this thread I've heard for yrs to stay away from qs but I figured all oil brands had probly improved

Even back in the reputed "sludge days" it was used in our taxis for 6,000 mile OCIs. One example went 600,000 miles soley on QS conventional.
 
Originally Posted By: mclasser
QS oil is known to help quiet down noisy engines and is a good product. Run it with confidence
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Indeed! This is one of the several reasons that I've been staying with the QS oils. Price being another.
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I have been using QSGB, QSUD & DEFY and they do indeed keep the engines quiet/smooth in all cases. And yes, I still use other brands of oil that I have in my stash...Valv, Havl etc.
 
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
Originally Posted By: mclasser
QS oil is known to help quiet down noisy engines and is a good product. Run it with confidence
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Indeed! This is one of the several reasons that I've been staying with the QS oils. Price being another.
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I have been using QSGB, QSUD & DEFY and they do indeed keep the engines quiet/smooth in all cases. And yes, I still use other brands of oil that I have in my stash...Valv, Havl etc.


21 a jug over the weekend. I've got 10 more jugs to add to my stash.
 
$21.00 a jug is just about the most i will pay for quaker state synthetic the price is slowly creeping up when it hits $22.00 i drop it like a hot iron..
 
I have been running QSGB I buy on sale at Menards in my three cars. I run QSUD I get on sale at Menards in my 07 F-150. I am completely satisfied with it's performance.
 
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
$21.00 a jug is just about the most i will pay for quaker state synthetic the price is slowly creeping up when it hits $22.00 i drop it like a hot iron..


Well considering regular conventional oil's regular price per 5L jug is never less than 25 bucks,21 for synthetic is a dream price that just doesn't come around often.
Walmarts regular price for M1 is around 50 bucks for a 4.4L jug,so typically our prices are double what can be had down south.
Rotella t 15w40 in a 5 gallon pail is 80 bucks or so here,so do the math comparing American vs Canadian oil prices.
21 for qsud is dream prices. I'd have bought a flat if I'd had the money.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Walmarts regular price for M1 is around 50 bucks for a 4.4L jug


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You're right about prices being double. A 5 quart jug (4.7L) of M1 from Walmart is currently $24.97 here.
 
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And that's why I may stick with Delvac 1 for a little while. It sells for much the same as synthetic down there/conventional up here. Walmart and Canadian Tire are getting stingy with their rollback stock, too.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
And that's why I may stick with Delvac 1 for a little while. It sells for much the same as synthetic down there/conventional up here. Walmart and Canadian Tire are getting stingy with their rollback stock, too.


I got those 21 buck jugs at part source.
 
I've been paying a little more attention to the Partsource guys. Their deals aren't usually as deep as Walmart, of course, but unlike their sister CT, it's easier to find something in stock there.
 
I've been using SOPUS products exclusively in our Hyundai since new and it's now got over 65,000 miles on it. Early on, I used PP 5w-20 and for the last several OCIs I've run QSUD 5w-20--It works well in this application and I intend to keep using it for 5000 mile OCIs. I think it's one of the best oil values going.
 
sopus is not so cheap these days but it is good oil
i think they learned from ultra when the price went way up so did the dust on the oil containers.
 
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I was at a Walmart tonight and they had the guts to advertise PP on a prominent shelf end cap for $42! On the opposite cap was the same bottles of Castrol Edge with Titanium in SM/GF-4 at $13.99 that I've mentioned a number of times here. They keep moving them around, but they never move out the door.

The distributors price the SOPUS stuff much better up here, at least when talking regular prices.
 
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