Purolator PL22821 oversize filter no longer avail?

[Blown347hatch]

Advance and Pep Boys stopped carrying it. I like it as an oversize filter for my Toyota.
Don't want to pay over $15 on EBay for one either.
Does Motorcraft FL-400-S cross reference as the same?
How about Bosch? What part number?

 

[Kruse]

My old NAPA book (dated 2001) shows it to cross to a 1394.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Blown347hatch
I like it as an oversize filter for my Toyota.


What year and model Toyota are you talking about? Once that it known, it will be easier to spec an over sized filter.

 

[notech47]

I wish the oil filter brands would show an interchange list within their brand of oil filters where size is the only technical difference. Anyone listening at Fram, Purolator, Wix, Mobil, K & N???

 

[sir1900]

Wix does

 

[Kruse]

Originally Posted By: notech47
I wish the oil filter brands would show an interchange list within their brand of oil filters where size is the only technical difference. Anyone listening at Fram, Purolator, Wix, Mobil, K & N???


My NAPA book (and NAPA filters are made by Wix) shows the principal application, the style (cartridge, spin-on, cartridge sock, etc.) element dimensions (filter height, filter O.D., filter I.D.) and gasket dimensions (gasket O.D., gasket I.D., and gasket thickness).
What more do you want?

 

[ZeeOSix]

If I go to Purolator's website, and see what vehicles the PL22821 fits, then go look up the filters that Purolator recommends for that vehicle, it comes out to the PL10241. The PL10241 isn't much smaller than the PL22821 (~1/2" shorter - see spec links on both below).

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/resources/Popup/Pages/PartDetailPopup.aspx?partnum=PL10241

Here's fit data for the PL22821:
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/reso...2821&page=1

PL22821 Specs:
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/resources/Popup/Pages/PartDetailPopup.aspx?partnum=PL22821

 

[rrounds]

I don't know if these filters are to big, but take a look at the Baldwin B2 or B2-HPG
3 11/16" X 5 13/32"
http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/

ROD

 

[jrtribology]

If you think that's bad ACdelco no longer makes the gorgeous classy A348C air filter that fits Rochester quadrajets on 75-81 corvettes and 77-90 full size GM cars some trucks and so on .Fram still makes the CA326 but it's not as pretty

Oh yeah and Fram Still makes the PH30 for 2nd gen Chevy small block V8's but they don't make an HM30, XE30, or TG30 and that isn't fair either ...

 

[Blown347hatch]

Thanks for the great suggestions. My car is a 99 Corolla. Always Mobil 1 and Amsoil Trans fluid. I will check into the suggestions posted here.

 

[notech47]

Just because an oil filter physically fits an engine doesn't mean it meets the specs reqd by the vehicle mfg. This relates to pressure, flow, etc that as a layman I can't possibly identify or approve. Anyone qualified?

 

[Blown347hatch]

Update: I found out using cross reference guides that the oversize Purolator filter is compatible with the Bosch part #D3330. Readily available at Walmart and made in USA. It is quite a bit larger than the factory size. I am using this Bosch part number in my 99 Corolla and no problems or leaks. I will say the gasket diameter (not thickness or width of the rubber itself) was slightly larger than the OEM sized filter I took off. However the machined flat surface in the engine block was plenty wide to accommodate this. Again zero leakage.

Regarding the comment above about oil pressure, I believe that to be a myth. Oil filters when clogged, cause the oil pump to go into bypass mode and circumvent the filter entirely. If they truly regulated pressure then a clogged filter would damage an engine from starvation. And if filters regulated pressure there would not be any pressure relief springs in oil pumps. Furthermore, it would make more sense that a bigger, free flowing filter would allow higher volume of filtered oil to pass through and get to the bearings. I am not an engineer but have been a high performance engine hobbyist, and have built a number if engines. In all the reading I have done over the years this is the first I have ever heard of an oil filter regulating pressure. In years past I read that shimming the spring in oil pumps affected pressure, but never anything to do with filters. They even sell oil filter relocation kits to run bigger or dual filters if you want to.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Blown347hatch

Regarding the comment above about oil pressure, I believe that to be a myth. Oil filters when clogged, cause the oil pump to go into bypass mode and circumvent the filter entirely.


Not really ... if an oil filter clogs then the filter's by-pass valve opens to allow unfiltered oil to the engine. The oil pump will still be pumping oil through the engine.

Originally Posted By: Blown347hatch

Furthermore, it would make more sense that a bigger, free flowing filter would allow higher volume of filtered oil to pass through and get to the bearings.


A bigger filter will not allow higher oil volume to flow unless the oil pump is hitting it's pressure relief point. Any time the oil pump is out of pressure relief, then ALL the oil coming out of the Positive Displacement Pump has to go through the filter and engine.

Bigger oil filters do however have a slightly smaller PSID and are able to hold more crud which keeps the PSID down over the OCI which helps reduce the likelihood of the filter by-pass valve opening due to increased PSID conditions.

 

[Blown347hatch]

Zeeosix I was responding to notech 47. Nothing you said in your post is much different from what I was saying. The main point is I found a readily available oversize filter that fits 99 Corolla which was the point if my original post. I am only concerned with, and trying to give the engine better protection than the tiny lawn mower sized filters they recommend.