Pure Power filters claim fact or fiction??

[froggy47]

The $200. filter from Huntington Beach CA claims (at a car show today) that traditional oil filters do not "filter". The factory spokesman claims that the flow of the oil in traditional filters is "past" the filtering pleats and it never actually goes thru the pleat paper (or other medium)?

Is this true?

He also claimed that the additives get "stuck" in the paper of traditional filters??

I started to smell BS, but I am just curious about the "flow path" that the oil takes in traditional filters.
Anyone Know for sure?

I searched on Pure Power, but there wasn't much.

Apparently they mfg. for military and aircraft applications & are trying to expand into passanger cars & trucks.

Thanks

[ June 12, 2005, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: froggy47 ]

 

[Shannow]

being a 25um wire mesh, and claiming that it's better than 25um paper, I reckon that they are a bit suss to start with.

Also, how do you clean them and ensure that the bad stuff doesn't swap sides .

Then when you go to their information library, instead of finding what a great product they make, article 1 is the Magnuson Moss act, and "so you've been denied warranty".

 

[Jonny Z]

My 2 cents:
If the oil is bypassing the filter media, how does the additive gets stuck on the media. It is like saying "your filter catches the good stuff, and lets the bad stuff by..." Besides, the additves are liquid or soluble, how can they get stuck?

I wonder if their marketing guys checked with their engineers before making these statements...

 

[Ray H]

What engineers?

 

[Gary Allan]

This is just nature's way of saying that people make too much money. It may be a good idea ..if you strip away the BS and used it in conjunction with bypass filtration....but not at that cost. You can install a decent bypass for the same or less and forget about your ff for the most part. This thing is such a limited production item that it requires this rate of return (probably 10X the actual production costs) on investment just bringing it to market.

I would not buy this thing unless I had money to burn.

 

[Filter guy]

I remember when Slick 50 first came out. Champ did some lab tests to make sure that their "additive" package wasn't retained by the filter media. It wasn't.

Additive packages are below the filters capability to remove. Otherwise every filter,
especially the more efficient ones, would remove out the oil companies chemical package and you'd have nothing but a fluid running through the engine.

As for never going through the pleats..must be news to the GM boys where there isn't a by-pass in the filter can. So the oil HAS to get out somehow...lol

snake oil selling sounds like..

and fwiw, 25 micron wire mesh is used in the hydraulic industry. If you have stainless steel, then you can back flush it to clean it but eventually it still need to be replaced. And they are expensive.

 

[froggy47]

Thanks guys, sorry to be asking such basic questions. Filter guy was the only one who, sort of, answered my specific question.

So, with the exception of when the oil goes thru a bypass - due to cold start, or clogged filter, or high performance - you are all agreeing that the oil DOES pass THRU the paper media NOT flow BY it in the hopes that it'll catch a particle or so.

Thanks

 

[froggy47]

ttt

 

[TomH]

quote:

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Originally posted by Filter guy:
I remember when Slick 50 first came out. Champ did some lab tests to make sure that their "additive" package wasn't retained by the filter media. It wasn't.

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When Slick 50 first came out back in the mid 80s, the manufacturer of the product then was Petrolon. Petrolon was later purchased by Blue Coral, which was then later accquired by SOPUS Products. I don't think that Champ Labs ever had anything to do with Slick 50.

 

[Gary Allan]

quote:

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So, with the exception of when the oil goes thru a bypass - due to cold start, or clogged filter, or high performance - you are all agreeing that the oil DOES pass THRU the paper media NOT flow BY it in the hopes that it'll catch a particle or so.

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In a normal filter, used under typical conditions in an otherwise adaquately maintained automobile, the vast majority of the oil flow pass through the media.

 

[froggy47]

Thanks Gary,

That Pure Power guy at the car show was really slinging some poo.

 

[Filter guy]

They don't call the spin on filter on your car a "full flow" for nothing. As Gary says the oil will go through the media in the filter.

 

[Rhymingmechanic]

I recently cut open the $1.97 filter from an engine that's being Auto-RXed. There was gritty black crud in the can and the can side of the media pleats. There was only oil on the other side of the media.

 

[vettenuts]

There is an article on this filter in the most recent copy of "Vette" magazine. Since they tend to not do independent testing, the article is somewhat useless. It does state that an increase in oil pressure was observed with this filter.

 

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