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Oh ..did I forget Water, Sewer, and Trash. Add $210+/month
Please post your utility bill
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Average temperature: 38°F
Gas: 129CCF = 141 therms
Electric: 670kwh
Total bill (gas and electric and all taxes)= $233
Gas = $170
Electric = $63
I must note this is a 2200 sq ft house, with 3-car garage that needs lots of 100 watt light bulbs to see anything at night, plus this electric bill included Christmas lights (oops). Two PC's running, TV's on, lots of lights during the winter months. Gas furnace, water heater and cook top. Electric range.
Water is about $100-$120/month (seasonal), trash is $65 or so.
Average temperature: 38°F
Gas: 129CCF = 141 therms
Electric: 670kwh
Total bill (gas and electric and all taxes)= $233
Gas = $170
Electric = $63
I must note this is a 2200 sq ft house, with 3-car garage that needs lots of 100 watt light bulbs to see anything at night, plus this electric bill included Christmas lights (oops). Two PC's running, TV's on, lots of lights during the winter months. Gas furnace, water heater and cook top. Electric range.
Water is about $100-$120/month (seasonal), trash is $65 or so.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
My FIL gave me a device, commonly used on boats, which uses inductive coils on the two main legs into the house, and sends the signal to two ammeters in my kitchen.
CTs, or current transformers, are commonly used on larger electrical services (400 amp or greater, as I recall). The electric meter is connected to a CT which is inductively connected to the legs of the electrical services.
http://www.electricsubmeter.com/nationalmeter/cts/lx.htm
My FIL gave me a device, commonly used on boats, which uses inductive coils on the two main legs into the house, and sends the signal to two ammeters in my kitchen.
CTs, or current transformers, are commonly used on larger electrical services (400 amp or greater, as I recall). The electric meter is connected to a CT which is inductively connected to the legs of the electrical services.
http://www.electricsubmeter.com/nationalmeter/cts/lx.htm
On my 2-Story Traditional house being home all day since I am laid off. I also use Oak to heat my house on occasion.
Avg Temp = 12F !!
Electric = 409 KWh $23
Natural Gas = 94 Therms $77
Water = Well - no extra charge
Sewer = Septic System - no extra charge
Not bad, eh?
Avg Temp = 12F !!
Electric = 409 KWh $23
Natural Gas = 94 Therms $77
Water = Well - no extra charge
Sewer = Septic System - no extra charge
Not bad, eh?
People seem to be paying around 3.8 cents/kw-hr for gas heat, and maybe 15 for electricity. If a 10kW gas fired generator costs $3000 and lasts 10,000 hours, it should cost about 30 cents per hour to run, in machine cost. The gas cost will be about $1.52 per hour, for a total of $1.82/hour. The setup will put out 10 kW of electricity, worth $1.50 an hour, plus 30kW of heat, worth (30x3.8) $1.14 per hour. This setup will save 1.14+1.5-1.82 = 0.82 per hour, over a separate furnace and electric utility connection.
Instead of a generator, you can connect the gas fired engine to the shaft of a ground source heat pump, and get 1.6 units of heat energy out of the ground for every unit of natural gas energy. That would put out 64,000 watts of warm air, worth $2.43 per hour, at a cost of $1.82 per hour, saving you 61 cents per hour. But I forgot the machine cost of the heat pump.
Cogen is the way to go.
Instead of a generator, you can connect the gas fired engine to the shaft of a ground source heat pump, and get 1.6 units of heat energy out of the ground for every unit of natural gas energy. That would put out 64,000 watts of warm air, worth $2.43 per hour, at a cost of $1.82 per hour, saving you 61 cents per hour. But I forgot the machine cost of the heat pump.
Cogen is the way to go.
I avg. $130 winter and summer 2,000sf house. 2,000sf shop in basement. House heated with heat pump (new). Shop heated with KeroSun heater.( About $100 for kerosene)
I built the house in 1983 to be super efficient.
Power comes from TVA. Just got a notice that our bill will be going up 10.8% in April.
40ford
I built the house in 1983 to be super efficient.
Power comes from TVA. Just got a notice that our bill will be going up 10.8% in April.
40ford
Cant really separate winter/summer as the temp. varies so wildly here in South Louisiana. Anyhow, 1100 sq. ft. apartment, all electric with the thermostat set on 70 either heat or cold, average bill runs $165. Highest was $180, lowest was the half month when we moved in $78.
2700 Square Foot Two Story w Finished Basement
Major Gas: Range, Dryer, Furnace, Basement Fireplace, and Hot Water
Major Electric: Hot Tub
Thermostat @ 70F (baby home all day)
Gas 1/9 to 2/7: 183CCF/206 Therms $213.29
Average Temp: 13F
Electric: 1/2 to 1/29: 890kwh $87.75
Gas bill was our highest ever - prior to baby we were a 65F/58F Setback house and our previous high gas bill was $145 during an average temp month of 11F. Gas bill bottoms out around $30 in the summer, while electric varies from $55 (usually in the fall) to over $120 (summer - Air Conditioner and heavy hot tub usuage).
Major Gas: Range, Dryer, Furnace, Basement Fireplace, and Hot Water
Major Electric: Hot Tub
Thermostat @ 70F (baby home all day)
Gas 1/9 to 2/7: 183CCF/206 Therms $213.29
Average Temp: 13F
Electric: 1/2 to 1/29: 890kwh $87.75
Gas bill was our highest ever - prior to baby we were a 65F/58F Setback house and our previous high gas bill was $145 during an average temp month of 11F. Gas bill bottoms out around $30 in the summer, while electric varies from $55 (usually in the fall) to over $120 (summer - Air Conditioner and heavy hot tub usuage).
Wow, seeing these other bills is showing me just how ineffecient my house actually is. Can't wait to get my new windows in! Hopefully the furnace will last a while longer, until I can afford to get a good, high efficiency model. My current one is a 36-year-old Rheem.
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