Looking for tires. What do you guys think of theses? Any other suggestions. The dealer is letting my have them for 159 a tire.
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Pirelli Scorpion ATR
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tire rack rates them #1 in there class
I heard some state the wear isn't very good. But that highly varies per customer, application, etc. for any tire. I had the older Scorpion ATs on an Explorer -- and really liked them. I would check out Destination ATs as well. They are also highly rated, and less expensive. I currently have Destination ATs on my Mariner. I like them better than the oolder Scorpion ATs.
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I heard some state the wear isn't very good. But that highly varies per customer, application, etc. for any tire. I had the older Scorpion ATs on an Explorer -- and really liked them. I would check out Destination ATs as well. They are also highly rated, and less expensive. I currently have Destination ATs on my Mariner. I like them better than the oolder Scorpion ATs.
They look pretty good. I am unsure about wear and perofrmance- as stated above they scored high on tirerack.
I've been looking at truck tire reviews for a few years now, and even with the same tire wear and performance varies a lot. Vehicle is one of the most important variables, but you still need to know type of tire selected (was the correct load range used, or more commonly was it just as big as one could possibly use), tire pressure (I need to add 10 lbs psi for extended driving over 65 mph but most seem to like lower psi for comfort), common temperature (driving 80 mph with a trailer in the SW in the summer will produce more wear), load (towing), and driving habits (yeee haaaah I can burn rubber all day long yeeee haaaah).
A lot of tires seem to have been designed for half ton trucks and vehicles but 3/4 ton (like mine) and 1 ton are pretty common these days, and diesels add lots of weight up front (my truck has something like 4k lbs on the front axle). Some people get good mileage from BFG A/Ts on their half ton trucks, but a friend with a 1 ton diesel only got 30k miles on his last set.
'Performance' is also all over the map, as some people think that 4wd is some sort of magic state of existance, where the laws of physics no longer apply to and crummy highway tires are supposed turn into mud and winter tires. Load range is also different from load index, which is why there are two different ratings.
In the end you just gotta read lots of reviews, hope that most aren't posted by shills, and use the reviews that are most applicable.
A lot of tires seem to have been designed for half ton trucks and vehicles but 3/4 ton (like mine) and 1 ton are pretty common these days, and diesels add lots of weight up front (my truck has something like 4k lbs on the front axle). Some people get good mileage from BFG A/Ts on their half ton trucks, but a friend with a 1 ton diesel only got 30k miles on his last set.
'Performance' is also all over the map, as some people think that 4wd is some sort of magic state of existance, where the laws of physics no longer apply to and crummy highway tires are supposed turn into mud and winter tires. Load range is also different from load index, which is why there are two different ratings.
In the end you just gotta read lots of reviews, hope that most aren't posted by shills, and use the reviews that are most applicable.
I just replaced the Michelin Cross Terrains on my truck with the ATRs last week, and this weekend I did a 500-mile road trip to Lake Tahoe on them. I'm quite happy with their performance. It was all dry weather travel, but they gripped just as well as the Cross Terrains and were just as quiet (surprisingly). There was only one brief stretch of pavement where I heard a bit of tire whine when doing 70-80 MPH. Steering effort is a bit lighter, and of course I could feel the full-depth tread squirm a bit on turn-in, but none of it was objectionable. The ATRs have a slightly higher weight rating, but I couldn't detect an increase in ride stiffness or any other ride discomfort.
I managed to get a touch over 58K miles out of the Cross Terrains, which have a UTQG of 420. The ATRs are 520's, so I should be able to get the same life or better out of them.
The only downside is that they're eight pounds heavier per tire than the Cross Terrains in my size. That won't help my fuel economy any, but so far I haven't noticed a meaningful difference in handling due to the weight.
It's supposed to be the rainy season (a/k/a California winter) now, so I'm guessing the rain will show up sometime soon and I'll get a chance to see how well these tires do in the wet. Same thing for snow. The Cross Terrains worked very well in both conditions, so I have great hopes for the ATRs.
I managed to get a touch over 58K miles out of the Cross Terrains, which have a UTQG of 420. The ATRs are 520's, so I should be able to get the same life or better out of them.
The only downside is that they're eight pounds heavier per tire than the Cross Terrains in my size. That won't help my fuel economy any, but so far I haven't noticed a meaningful difference in handling due to the weight.
It's supposed to be the rainy season (a/k/a California winter) now, so I'm guessing the rain will show up sometime soon and I'll get a chance to see how well these tires do in the wet. Same thing for snow. The Cross Terrains worked very well in both conditions, so I have great hopes for the ATRs.
I put them on my "old" truck, 2003 2wd Ram. They are very good tires. Had about 20000 miles on them, still looked like alot of tread left on them. I plan on replacing the Goodyears on my '07 Liberty with the Scorpion ATR tires when the time comes.
I have these tires on both my Navigator and my Mark LT. The ones on the Navigator were replacements for the Michelin Pilot M/S which I got 27k miles out of but this mileage was mostly around town and the Navigator is heavy. The ATR's are quieter than the Michelin's but to soon to tell about mileage. The ATR's on my Mark LT 4x4 have 10k miles on them on look new. So far, very good especially for the price.
I have a set of these...actually the second set. LT265x70R17 L.R. E.
The first set sold to me was already four years old (even though they were new)...and with around 35k (and more than half tread life left) started to form small cracks (dry-rot like) in the sidewalls. I had them replaced with another set (under warranty, and at no cost to me), which have seen less than 2k miles (been trying to wear some other tires out in the meantime.
They are very quiet, and ride nice. They do very well in water (including deep water) and do OK in snow for what they are, an all-season tire. For a summer tire in a northern climate, or a all-season tire in a non-northern climate, they would do very well.
The first set sold to me was already four years old (even though they were new)...and with around 35k (and more than half tread life left) started to form small cracks (dry-rot like) in the sidewalls. I had them replaced with another set (under warranty, and at no cost to me), which have seen less than 2k miles (been trying to wear some other tires out in the meantime.
They are very quiet, and ride nice. They do very well in water (including deep water) and do OK in snow for what they are, an all-season tire. For a summer tire in a northern climate, or a all-season tire in a non-northern climate, they would do very well.
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I have them as a factory tire on my 07 Ford KR 150..20" ..I have to keep them at 40# or else I get a flat spot overnight and they are not totally in balance..not bad but do shake slightly..great biting tire for it's size and should wear great..love 'em
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