People line up to buy pot in Co.

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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Number21
Originally Posted By: Trav
Some sort of complex going on there, are we supposed to be impressed? Most successful people keep a very low profile indeed.
I could care less if you created 2 or 200 jobs or how much you make or don't, drugs are a scourge on society and advocating them in any way to kids is just plain wrong.


So what is the point you are trying to make here? First it's about the children, and then marijuana is filthy...and now you just want to insult me. You're trying to say that I'm somehow a bad person for using marijuana and you are entirely wrong and completely out of line. Let's stick to the facts about marijuana here please...

I don't and never have advocated marijuana for children. Don't put stupid words in my mouth. I don't lie to children and tell them marijuana is the devil, because modern science has proven that it is not.


Your words not mine..
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My parents taught me there is nothing wrong with responsible use of marijuana among adults. Just like alcohol. That is exactly what I will teach my kids.


And no I am not out of line, IMO kids should be directed away from drugs at all cost and that includes drugs like THC.
Drugs are filth, they pollute and damage peoples mind.


Have you ever consumed any alcohol in your life? If so, you are a hypocrite!
 
Originally Posted By: Number21
Originally Posted By: Trav

And no I am not out of line, IMO kids should be directed away from drugs at all cost and that includes drugs like THC.

What happens when your kid needs to go to the dentist and have a tooth pulled? I bet you have a different attitude about narcotics then. Or tell your kid to tough it out painkillers are filthy?


Are you ACTUALLY equating Novocaine with a NARCOTIC?!?! Seriously?!
 
Originally Posted By: Mystic
It may be true that 'pretty much everywhere narcotics have been decriminalized crime has gone down...' But where I worked I saw a lot of people who had used heroin and meth. You want to legalize those too? Maybe be involved in the sale of those drugs to human beings? Not me. I will pass. I know what heroin and meth do to human beings. I have a conscious.


Meth was legal not that long ago. As in: it was legal in the lifetimes of people posting in this thread! Also note: many people are alive today because of advances in medicine thought up by a lifelong heroin addict!
 
Amazing that somebody would actually confuse Novocaine with narcotics. But hey, these drug users tell themselves they know more than anybody else and they are more clever than the rest of us by far.

I have never met a human being who knew everything. It has been my experience that people who think they know everything know a lot less than they think they do.

A lot of people who use drugs think they know everything. I am sure the prom queen girl thought she had it all figured out also. She looks very different today after about one year of meth abuse.

I don't really care how much drugs the drug users want to take. I worry about the kids. I want for the kids to have a chance in life. But many kids in families where illegal drugs are used are able to easily get illegal drugs. There are adequate studies that marijuana use affects learning ability. I guess if the drug users want their kids to fall behind there is no helping that.
 
Cocaine in Cola-Coca was also legal at one time and morphine was legal in various medications and snake oils. I have seen plenty of meth users. Been there-seen it. So what if it was once legal? Ever notice on the movie on TV (Breaking Bad) how the ex-chemistry teacher and his assistants were suiting up for their own safety?
 
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Originally Posted By: Number21
Originally Posted By: whip
See my comment above. Your inablity to prove your point speaks much louder than any link posted. *sigh* (Does that look as condescending as I think it does?)

I don't need to prove anything to you. You need to prove why something should be illegal, not the other way around. Do you know how Google works? Go find your own links, you can find the same ones I do. There are a million studies on both sides that prove each other wrong. Studies, in general, are useless for this reason.


Did you miss the part of THAT SAME POST YOU QUOTED where he CLEARLY states he is for LEGALIZING pot?

Selective vision much?

No, I read his post just fine, I'm not sure what your point is.
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Are you ACTUALLY equating Novocaine with a NARCOTIC?!?! Seriously?!

*sigh*
When you are done at the dentist you usually go home with a bottle of painkillers. Ever have a wisdom tooth pulled? You'll want some narcotics. Do you think Novocaine is the only drug a dentist uses? What does it matter what kind of drug it is, Novocaine is still a drug...

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I don't really care how much drugs the drug users want to take. I worry about the kids.

It will always be illegal for kids. Nobody wants anything different. Why are we still arguing about this? Please explain.

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Cocaine in Cola-Coca was also legal at one time and morphine was legal in various medications and snake oils. I have seen plenty of meth users. Been there-seen it. So what if it was once legal? Ever notice on the movie on TV (Breaking Bad) how the ex-chemistry teacher and his assistants were suiting up for their own safety?

What could that possibly have to do with anything? We aren't talking about cocaine or meth, and nobody wants that legalized.
 
Originally Posted By: Number21

We aren't talking about cocaine, and nobody wants that legalized.


Hey, I bet Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan would! LOL!

WINNING! LMAO!!!!
 
Originally Posted By: whip
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: whip
Originally Posted By: grampi
Believe what you want....

In other words, you can't prove your point........


No, in other words people believe what they want and they only believe info from sources that support their side of the argument. I could sit here and post links all day long that show marijuana use is not harmful, and people will just claim the information is biased.

You tasked me with finding links that prove cannabis is harmful. I did. I even found a link from a pro cannabis site. When I asked you to provide proof of your side, you chose not to. As I said before, I'm for legalizing pot, but saying it's harmless is ignorant.

Originally Posted By: Number21

Originally Posted By: whip
Can you show me any links stating it's harmless.

Of course, but I'm not going to waste my time, because you will just say those were form people trying to legalize... *sigh*

See my comment above. Your inablity to prove your point speaks much louder than any link posted. *sigh* (Does that look as condescending as I think it does?)


Now you're playing a game of semantics. Let's say for argument sake marijuana is harmful. Show me links to studies that tie long term marijuana use to lung cancer, brain cancer, emphysema, dementia, Alzheimer's, or any other life threating disease or illness. Like I said, nobody dies from using marijuana, so when you say it's harmful, you must mean it's harmful like say a hangnail, not like cancer or heart disease harmful...
 
Another thing to point out:

Cocaine is a Schedule II drug with some limited medical uses. That's right, there are pharmacies that stock cocaine. That also means there are factories licensed by the federal government to make cocaine.

Marijuana is still a Schedule I drug with "no accepted medical use". The worst of the worst. If you believe that I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

Like I said before, I don't want to see marijuana in vending machines. It is stupid to make it as illegal or say that it is as addictive or useless as heroin or meth.
 
Originally Posted By: Number21
Originally Posted By: whip
See my comment above. Your inablity to prove your point speaks much louder than any link posted. *sigh* (Does that look as condescending as I think it does?)

I don't need to prove anything to you. You need to prove why something should be illegal, not the other way around. Do you know how Google works? Go find your own links, you can find the same ones I do. There are a million studies on both sides that prove each other wrong. Studies, in general, are useless for this reason.


Don't you just love people who refuse to believe anything that goes against their point of view, and then they want you to spoon feed them links? People are too lazy to do their own research...
 
Each one of us have their own view concerning narcotics. We can discuss it until the end of time and still not come to a complete agreement. There are people like me that do not know all their allergy's. It is frightening to get a shot for pain and 2 hours the doctor is asking for permission to call the family in. This happened to me twice (different drugs). Recreational drug users may not know their allergy's and not get to a doctor soon enough.

I am locking this thread due to the fact it is going nowhere.

Helen
 
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