People line up to buy pot in Co.

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Originally Posted By: dishdude
The lobbyists are finally losing this one. The entire war on drugs has been a disaster, and it's about time this country goes in an entirely different direction.

The inner city gangs are funded by drugs, and are basically the modern day Mafia. The fact that we're clogging up our legal system with pot and drug users is insane.


It will definitely save a lot of money on "the war on drugs" and I'm willing to bet, as it becomes more and more legal, there will be less gang activity in the larger cities ... or at least less gang activity driven by drugs

I'm surprised big pharma couldn't keep Marajuana at bay for longer.

There is still a federal ban. I never see that getting lifted.
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Originally Posted By: dishdude
The lobbyists are finally losing this one. The entire war on drugs has been a disaster, and it's about time this country goes in an entirely different direction.

The inner city gangs are funded by drugs, and are basically the modern day Mafia. The fact that we're clogging up our legal system with pot and drug users is insane.


It will definitely save a lot of money on "the war on drugs" and I'm willing to bet, as it becomes more and more legal, there will be less gang activity in the larger cities ... or at least less gang activity driven by drugs

I'm surprised big pharma couldn't keep Marajuana at bay for longer.

There is still a federal ban. I never see that getting lifted.


I don't foresee any decrease on gang activity honestly, just a shift of focus on which drugs they'll want to sell.

Prisons are very overcrowded, I think having it legalized will allow for more hardcore criminals to be locked up than your casual pot smoker.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Originally Posted By: grampi
Now that the ice has been broken, I see many states legalizing pot for recreational use...especially considering the huge tax base its sales will create....


I agree, massive tax base. It will also lead to a lot more employment terminations because the law allows employers to still drug test.


For what reason will they be fired? If they test positive for THC, that's now legal...I don't see how they can fire someone unless that person tests positive for an illegal drug...

Same reason they can fire cigarette smokers if the company has a no smoking policy.
 
Originally Posted By: mikered30
Over a million dollars in sales on the first day.


Which is $250,000 in state tax. That is amazing.

I hope my state which does very well with their liquor, cigarette(lower than neighbors) gets into this boat fast. They really need to fund education better as our state university's/colleges are very expensive. Also my property taxes are high funding local schools.

As a bonus DIY in CO you can legally have 6 marijuana plants on your property too!!!
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Originally Posted By: grampi
Now that the ice has been broken, I see many states legalizing pot for recreational use...especially considering the huge tax base its sales will create....


I agree, massive tax base. It will also lead to a lot more employment terminations because the law allows employers to still drug test.


For what reason will they be fired? If they test positive for THC, that's now legal...I don't see how they can fire someone unless that person tests positive for an illegal drug...

Until Congress acts, marijuana is illegal in the United States, like it or not. So, someone can still be fired for testing positive for an illegal controlled substance if their company's policy allows.
 
Originally Posted By: Umibozu
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Originally Posted By: grampi
Now that the ice has been broken, I see many states legalizing pot for recreational use...especially considering the huge tax base its sales will create....


I agree, massive tax base. It will also lead to a lot more employment terminations because the law allows employers to still drug test.


For what reason will they be fired? If they test positive for THC, that's now legal...I don't see how they can fire someone unless that person tests positive for an illegal drug...


You can't be serious....

It's the same reason someone can be fired for being drunk on the job....

Alcohol is legal too and just because it is legal doesn't matter.

Any business in colorado can and will be able to set their own policy on pot similar to alcohol and will have FULL authority to terminate an employee.


Are any of you reading and comprehending my posts? I will say this one more time for those of you who just aren't getting it. No employers should allow any of their employees TO COME TO WORK UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ANYTHING. However, if a person smokes pot on a Monday afternoon, he or she is not still going to be under the influence the next day. It's like alcohol...you only stay drunk until your body filters it out...it's the same for pot.
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Originally Posted By: grampi
Now that the ice has been broken, I see many states legalizing pot for recreational use...especially considering the huge tax base its sales will create....


I agree, massive tax base. It will also lead to a lot more employment terminations because the law allows employers to still drug test.


For what reason will they be fired? If they test positive for THC, that's now legal...I don't see how they can fire someone unless that person tests positive for an illegal drug...

Same reason they can fire cigarette smokers if the company has a no smoking policy.


I suppose a business has the right to hire and fire who they want, but I've never heard of any company that disallows their employees to smoke at all...and how are they gonna enforce that one, drug testing for nicotine?
 
If a person smokes pot on a Monday afternoon, they are in violation of federal law for possessing a schedule 1 controlled substance. If they test positive thereafter, their employer does have cause to fire them.

Don't like it? Write your Congressman.
 
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
If a person smokes pot on a Monday afternoon, they are in violation of federal law for possessing a schedule 1 controlled substance. If they test positive thereafter, their employer does have cause to fire them.

Don't like it? Write your Congressman.


You're off the track...my scenario assumed the person smoking pot was in a state where it was legal...
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Ya you cant walk across a parking lot and not smell it here. Yuck


Do you drink alcohol?
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Now that the ice has been broken, I see many states legalizing pot for recreational use...especially considering the huge tax base its sales will create....


Do you smoke pot grampi? Since most of your posts are layed back and casual.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
If a person smokes pot on a Monday afternoon, they are in violation of federal law for possessing a schedule 1 controlled substance. If they test positive thereafter, their employer does have cause to fire them.

Don't like it? Write your Congressman.


You're off the track...my scenario assumed the person smoking pot was in a state where it was legal...

I'm trying to point out that marijuana is illegal in the entire United States under federal law. Marijuana is still an illegal schedule 1 controlled substance in Colorado, although not under state law.
 
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I suppose a business has the right to hire and fire who they want, but I've never heard of any company that disallows their employees to smoke at all...and how are they gonna enforce that one, drug testing for nicotine?


A lot of sheriffs offices in Florida are now tobacco free workplaces, the only ones allowed to smoke, dip, chew tobacco are grandfathered in.

I know the county I'm from is tobacco free, as well as the county below us.
They ask you while applying even as a operator, if you use it. Say yes? Disqual, say no and get caught? Fired.
Trick is not getting caught, issue is, those 911 operators can work overnights and up to 16-18 hours straight as can guards, officers, etc. Try doing that if you're a big time tobacco user, I couldn't.

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Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Originally Posted By: grampi
Now that the ice has been broken, I see many states legalizing pot for recreational use...especially considering the huge tax base its sales will create....


Do you smoke pot grampi? Since most of your posts are layed back and casual.


I used to, but I haven't in a long time...
 
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Originally Posted By: Bandito440
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
If a person smokes pot on a Monday afternoon, they are in violation of federal law for possessing a schedule 1 controlled substance. If they test positive thereafter, their employer does have cause to fire them.

Don't like it? Write your Congressman.


You're off the track...my scenario assumed the person smoking pot was in a state where it was legal...

I'm trying to point out that marijuana is illegal in the entire United States under federal law. Marijuana is still an illegal schedule 1 controlled substance in Colorado, although not under state law.


If it's legal in a state, you can't be arrested for using or possessing it in that state, so why then should employees be allowed to fire employees for using it in that state? There are a lot of things that are illegal federally, and legal in certain states, and vise versa...law enforcement always goes by the laws of the state, they don't go by federal law...
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Ya you cant walk across a parking lot and not smell it here. Yuck


Some places around here have rules where if you smoke within sight of the building you will be fired. Employees get in their car and drive around to be out of sight of the building.
 
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