Pentius PLXL1495P disappointment

[Pablo]

QC guy….

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Look like he ingested too many holes.

 

[cptbarkey]

Oil filters have more drama then soap operas.

 

[Pablo]

Oil filters have more drama then soap operas.

It's all fun and games until yer engines splodes

 

[Fair enough]

It has been said dp is too low at the holes to cause them to come loose and it works for glue the same way. Forget about the force of flowing oil.
This looks like it will be a ruined engine from an oil filter.

 

[Sayjac]

Tube hole punch out machine in "PRC" factory needs adjustment. It's good you inspected. I'd hope a refund possible.

 

[wemay]

We are like an elite commando group who give a poop about the actual quality of oil filters. Because no one else knows or even gives a hoot. Including labeling/selling contractors and manufacturers. Just a complete fail.

Gonna create a Halloween costume with this in mind.

 

[daman]

Very disappointing. Thanks for sharing.

Thats always the issue with punching a hole - you have to knock the slug all the way out. Probably why so many went to louvers. Easier to stamp.

E-core looking better and better.

Until the media blows out from over loading from less support because the cage openings are so big.

 

[rstcso]

It's all fun and games until yer engines splodes

And you'd never know your engine replacement quote is due to a defective filter, unless a complete teardown was done. Even then, it would depend on where "the hole" lodged, assuming the person doing the teardown even gave a rat's patootie.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Until the media blows out from over loading from less support because the cage openings are so big.

Except we have seen zero examples of that in what, 15 years?

Still better than a metal slug floating around in your oil galleries.

 

[rstcso]

I wonder if they are counterfeit? Has anyone reached out to Pentius?

 

[twX]

If they came through, where would they lodge in the system? I haven't gotten that far on disassembling things like that in all my years. Would it at least be able to drop into oil pan and get caught by magnetic drain plug if you have one?

If it goes to the heads or timing system, it would either settle there somewhere or make its way down to the sump. It wouldn't get back into the oiling system due to the oil pickup screen, so it wouldn't matter if you had a magnet.

However, there's about an equal chance that it ends up in the crankshaft. It's probably bigger than the main bearing oiling holes, so it will get stuck there, possibly causing enough of a pressure drop to damage the bearings.

 

[4WD]

Oil filters have more drama then soap operas.

Than

 

[Urshurak776]

I wonder if they are counterfeit? Has anyone reached out to Pentius?

See post #15.

 

[rstcso]

See post #15.

Now I remember reading that. I shouldn't be posting while in a work Teams' meeting.

 

[Chris142]

To be honest, I'd rather have a few nonexistent slits over die-punched pegs that come lose, bouncing around the media with sharp edges.

If one of those came loose it would go directly into the oiling system. Imagine the damage that would do. It could easily plug a hole leading to a main bearing and if it got through that hole right into a bearing, destroying the engine.

 

[twX]

It has been said dp is too low at the holes to cause them to come loose and it works for glue the same way. Forget about the force of flowing oil.

In the other thread, I estimated the dP across these holes to be ~0.03 psi, so there's almost no force on them, probably less than a gram. If it takes a pound of force to pop these things out, they aren't going to come loose.

I wasn't too concerned about that filter with the one unpunched hole. However, if >90% of the holes were unpunched, the dP would increase a lot, maybe enough to force some of them out.

 

[Chris142]

In a typical (if there's such a thing) automotive engine oil system, where is the filter in the grand scheme of things? What I've seen online showed the oil filter was after the pump, and oil then goes to the galleries. Does this mean these "holes", should they become dislodged, will end up somewhere in the engine and never make their way back to the sump? Or are there additional screens to prevent large particles from passing farther, like the screen in the sump before the oil goes to the pump?

The only way they could make it back to the pan is brought a bearing

 

[Urshurak776]

Now I remember reading that. I shouldn't be posting while in a work Teams' meeting.

Ironically, I'm in a Teams meeting also........Heat Exchanger theory and maintenance.....training for our young guys that just joined the engineering group.

 

[malibuguy79]

YIKES that is instant engine death

 

[ZeeOSix]

It has been said dp is too low at the holes to cause them to come loose and it works for glue the same way. Forget about the force of flowing oil.

The glue in question is adhered much more than these loose slugs may be. Another case of reality and where context matters in these discussions.