Pennzoil Conventional ok?

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Sounds like someone woke up and had a big glass of haterade. Did OP even say it was a V6? And do you have some proof against what everyone here recommends saying pennzoil products aren't all that good.
 
To the original poster, PYB, as well as any other name brand dino, will work perfectly in your new car. Change it every 5k, and the engine will be the last of your worries. It will rust out, or other parts of the car will wear out (transmission, etc.) long before you wear out that motor.
 
I just bought 6 qts of PYB Yesterday its what I have ran in our 2006 Sequoia for years.. I will run it till we get rid of the truck which will not be for another 5-6 years I have had zero issues with the oil 3000-4000 mile intervals
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
CAUTION: Non statistically valid personal observations:

I just ran the NEW PYB SN and the NEW Mobil Super SN back to back in the 09 forester (both 5w30). The PYB showed poorer fuel mileage after installation and somewhat rough engine operation. the Mobil Super showed an immediate 2 mpg improvement of weekly average mileage and the engine runs smoother. I am also having reasonable luck running MC-SS SN in the Yaris. New PYB is not the Old PYB.


do you think weather could have anything to do with that?
i bet it does, at the track times will very with the same car if temp changes a few degrees or if the sun comes out.
 
To each their own.....some like this and others like that....just use a quality oil that your happy with..... and change it when you need to change your oil.....or have someone do it for you.....just keep trucking. Cheers.
 
Originally Posted By: KieferS
Thank GOD. now that pennzoil sucks again - maybe now people will stop preaching this pyb on every thread.

there is no true basis for pyb and ultra getting all the recognition they do on this forum.

mediocre oil at a mediocre price. and no - i wouldn't trust a 5,000 mile oci on an altima with pyb. those japanese v6 engines can be rough on conventionals and like to sludge as it is.
i'd do valvolin synpower with 5,000 oci or any conventional at 3500. you just got a brand spankin' new car. put the good stuff in it. you have real potential here to mold an engine and wear it just the way you want. are you sure you want to waste that first opportunity on a pennzoil product?


Good job on coming to a completely incorrect conclusion
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Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Or winter versus summer gas between the PYB and Mobil Super 5000 OCI's ?
Nope. As soon as I did the OC the car ran funny. TWO major variables - oil and filter. Maybe the OCoD painted blue is to blame. Ran PGB 5w30 SN before that. PYB and Shell were somewht "magical" due to the high load of moly DTC if it doesnt have that, then it cant do the moly magic. Needs bucky fullerenes or coconut ester with whale brain oil to meet current low/mid saps trends ...
 
Originally Posted By: 1999nick






Do most of you bitoggers believe that different oils can cause an engine to run smoother or rougher?
Yes. Ask any GOOD mechanic or professional driver. I will say oil differences are more noticable during the first 25K miles after break in. Lot of ring heating and sticking during that time. On my wifes car I make oil choices on 1) Ambient temp, average Fuel mileage(DIC), and oil usage across the OCI. I will say the SN oils have showm markedly less oil consumption. First SN tried was Pennzoil Gold Bottle HM.
 
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Originally Posted By: oilchangeguy
Will Pennzoil conventional 5w30 be ok to run in my 2011 Altima with 3000 mile oci's? At those short oci's can I expect the same wear protection as Platinum?

Pennzoil Yellow Bottle is too good for 3k OCI's. If you want to keep doing the 3k/3mo OCI's then any house brand such as Supertech conventional will be more than good enough.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: oilchangeguy
Will Pennzoil conventional 5w30 be ok to run in my 2011 Altima with 3000 mile oci's? At those short oci's can I expect the same wear protection as Platinum?

Pennzoil Yellow Bottle is too good for 3k OCI's. If you want to keep doing the 3k/3mo OCI's then any house brand such as Supertech conventional will be more than good enough.


I totally agree with you. For those who like to change their oil every 3K to 4K the best suited oils would be those found in this link from API. You should save a lot of money, time and get some quality oil for frequent changes.....

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresultsNov2010.html

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults5w30April2010.html
 
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Originally Posted By: mongo161
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: oilchangeguy
Will Pennzoil conventional 5w30 be ok to run in my 2011 Altima with 3000 mile oci's? At those short oci's can I expect the same wear protection as Platinum?

Pennzoil Yellow Bottle is too good for 3k OCI's. If you want to keep doing the 3k/3mo OCI's then any house brand such as Supertech conventional will be more than good enough.


I totally agree with you. For those who like to change their oil every 3K to 4K the best suited oils would be those found in this link from API. You should save a lot of money, time and get some quality oil for frequent changes.....

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresultsNov2010.html

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults5w30April2010.html


I have to say I like the specs on the Warren oil in the link.

...but seriously I have no problem with someone picking ANY dino oil for 3k miles if they are sticking to 3k miles, just to save $1 per quart because they can. Use the better dino if you are using dino and go for it...

.02 cents...
 
Yes I agree all of that it needs but do not forget fozz for the ripple affect under _33 degrees.
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And most important do not forget to take your medicine!!!!
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Or winter versus summer gas between the PYB and Mobil Super 5000 OCI's ?
Nope. As soon as I did the OC the car ran funny. TWO major variables - oil and filter. Maybe the OCoD painted blue is to blame. Ran PGB 5w30 SN before that. PYB and Shell were somewht "magical" due to the high load of moly DTC if it doesnt have that, then it cant do the moly magic. Needs bucky fullerenes or coconut ester with whale brain oil to meet current low/mid saps trends ...
 
What's interesting is that the Auto Zone and Advance Auto Dino oils look very similar to the Valvoline White Bottle and Castrol GTX.

Just take a look at the additives.....notice the high Sodium in the Castrol and Valvoline......then look at the AZ and Advance Auto Dino oils. IMO.....they look very similar.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults5w30April2010.html

This might be the "missing link" for the similarities between the Store Brands and Valvoline/Castrol. Looks like they use the same ADDITIVE COMPANY for their add packs.
 
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Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Originally Posted By: mongo161
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: oilchangeguy
Will Pennzoil conventional 5w30 be ok to run in my 2011 Altima with 3000 mile oci's? At those short oci's can I expect the same wear protection as Platinum?

Pennzoil Yellow Bottle is too good for 3k OCI's. If you want to keep doing the 3k/3mo OCI's then any house brand such as Supertech conventional will be more than good enough.


I totally agree with you. For those who like to change their oil every 3K to 4K the best suited oils would be those found in this link from API. You should save a lot of money, time and get some quality oil for frequent changes.....

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresultsNov2010.html

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults5w30April2010.html


I have to say I like the specs on the Warren oil in the link.

...but seriously I have no problem with someone picking ANY dino oil for 3k miles if they are sticking to 3k miles, just to save $1 per quart because they can. Use the better dino if you are using dino and go for it...

.02 cents...


Almost makes me want to start using the Service Pro brand oil we sell where I work, as it is the same oil, and regular price is around $23 for a case.
 
Originally Posted By: mongo161
What's interesting is that the Auto Zone and Advance Auto Dino oils look very similar to the Valvoline White Bottle and Castrol GTX.

Just take a look at the additives.....notice the high Sodium in the Castrol and Valvoline......then look at the AZ and Advance Auto Dino oils. IMO.....they look very similar.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults5w30April2010.html

This might be the "missing link" for the similarities between the Store Brands and Valvoline/Castrol. Looks like they use the same ADDITIVE COMPANY for their add packs.


Pro Line, Auto Zone and Advance Auto oils are made by Warren Performance Products (not the same Warren mentioned in my previous post) which is the same as the Super Tech oil sold in much of the rest of the country, but not the Super Tech from that same test, which is an Exxon-Mobil product.
 
I call bull on a 2 MPG difference between 2 oils of the same weight, especially when both have the energy conserving designation. It would take a very controlled experiment to reveal a .2 mpg difference between those 2 oils.
 
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I would have stated gasoline as a variable, but the "instant" change after the oci made me think not. Maybe the fresh oil and its high detergency unstuck a stuck valve or ring pack. Still the mileage went down right after the PYB OC and came back right after the mobil super was added. I could do nothing to "correct this "perceived' issue, but the $11/5qt price on the Mobil super made me lean that way for this oci
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Hey, its the wife's car - not mine
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