Overthinking?

[Matt97]

I was watching a Amsoil video on Youtube, constantly comparing it to other synthetics. Old cars, new cars, the narrative was the same. I have no experiance of Amsoil, not avalible in South Africa.
My point is why all the drama of punting a product?
Synthetic oil change, once a year or 15 000km is more than sufficient, regardless of the product.
When i worked at a Vw dealer in the late nineties we were doing the same interval on normal 20w50 oil with no engine issues at all.
Even later on at a Mazda dealer, 10 000km or once a year on normal Castrol GTD .

 

[Rolla07]

Definitely is overthinking. To each their own, if you have the budget, use what you like! It would be extremely difficult to prove one oil is better than another.

 

[Volvoeric]

They're whole schtick is the "one oil change a year" thing. I'd rather do 4 oil changes and spend the same amount of money. I like changing my oil though....

 

[csandste]

Back in the early days of BITOG, one of the inventors of the GM oil life monitor wandered into the forum and immediately got into a urinating contest with several Amsoil people before getting mad and leaving. Like the people at Blackstone, his matra was oil is oil.

It's a religion, I guess.

 

[Lolvoguy]

Originally Posted by Matt97
I was watching a Amsoil video on Youtube, constantly comparing it to other synthetics. Old cars, new cars, the narrative was the same. I have no experiance of Amsoil, not avalible in South Africa.
My point is why all the drama of punting a product?
Synthetic oil change, once a year or 15 000km is more than sufficient, regardless of the product.
When i worked at a Vw dealer in the late nineties we were doing the same interval on normal 20w50 oil with no engine issues at all.
Even later on at a Mazda dealer, 10 000km or once a year on normal Castrol GTD .

OP, in the rest of the world these are what we call "first world problems".

In South Africa, (as someone who originates and can relate to the problems) I can understand the confusion with all the "real" problems you have.
Once you take away basic necessity problems like violence, poverty, political upheaval, rampant racism etc. this is what the rest of the world has to contemplate and discuss.

 

[WyrTwister]

If you have a GM vehicle under warrenty , I suspect it will specify DEXOS . In that case , I suggest a Dexos full synthetic .

 

[JLTD]

Originally Posted by Matt97
I was watching a Amsoil video on Youtube, constantly comparing it to other synthetics. Old cars, new cars, the narrative was the same. I have no experiance of Amsoil, not avalible in South Africa.
My point is why all the drama of punting a product?
Synthetic oil change, once a year or 15 000km is more than sufficient, regardless of the product.
When i worked at a Vw dealer in the late nineties we were doing the same interval on normal 20w50 oil with no engine issues at all.
Even later on at a Mazda dealer, 10 000km or once a year on normal Castrol GTD .


Here in the US, for many many years (and still, even for some here on this site!!) the oil change was 3,000 miles or 6 months. Any modern oil, even dino, can easily exceed that in most engines...which is what most of the rest of the world has known for a long time. IMO Amsoil has based their marketing on that...and I am fairly certain their oil could go even further.

 

[TheLawnRanger]

Amsoil is a good product. I won't knock it. However, I'm fine with most major brands for my daily driving needs.

 

[TiGeo]

Amsoil is a MLM (multi-level marketing) deal so yes, taken as somewhat of a religion by it's users/business owners b/c...well...AMWAY!

 

[avi1777]

Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Originally Posted by Matt97
I was watching a Amsoil video on Youtube, constantly comparing it to other synthetics. Old cars, new cars, the narrative was the same. I have no experiance of Amsoil, not avalible in South Africa.
My point is why all the drama of punting a product?
Synthetic oil change, once a year or 15 000km is more than sufficient, regardless of the product.
When i worked at a Vw dealer in the late nineties we were doing the same interval on normal 20w50 oil with no engine issues at all.
Even later on at a Mazda dealer, 10 000km or once a year on normal Castrol GTD .

OP, in the rest of the world these are what we call "first world problems".

In South Africa, (as someone who originates and can relate to the problems) I can understand the confusion with all the "real" problems you have.
Once you take away basic necessity problems like violence, poverty, political upheaval, rampant racism etc. this is what the rest of the world has to contemplate and discuss.

no violence,poverty,racism ,political corruption in the stats? it sounds like u live on the moon.

 

[avi1777]

and yes this whole over thinking over dealings with oil is an obsession,a huge one.always had highly modified cars and bikes and when i got a new stock cx5 i thought ill be normal now,what ever oil once a year but it took my one month to change the oil after again weeks of over reading on oils.
i swear changing to an oil u love is one of the best feelings ever,but dont learn from me i get a kick even when inflating my tires.its not just oil its a maintenance addiction.

 

[TheLawnRanger]

The moon has gotten pretty rough. Last week, two peanuts were walking near Tranquility Base and one of them was a salted.

 

[Dave9]

Originally Posted by WyrTwister
If you have a GM vehicle under warrenty , I suspect it will specify DEXOS . In that case , I suggest a Dexos full synthetic .


Depends on his consumer protection laws. Here in the US, the Magnuson Moss warranty act prevents manufacturers from forcing their OEM brand (oil or other part) be used unless they supply that free.

 

[Rand]

Originally Posted by Dave9
Originally Posted by WyrTwister
If you have a GM vehicle under warrenty , I suspect it will specify DEXOS . In that case , I suggest a Dexos full synthetic .


Depends on his consumer protection laws. Here in the US, the Magnuson Moss warranty act prevents manufacturers from forcing their OEM brand (oil or other part) be used unless they supply that free.


Magnuson Moss doesnt apply, dexos is an oil spec, not a product/part.

That would be like trying to apply Magnuson Moss because your car requires 91 octane gas instead of 87... and no they dont have to supply the gas for free.

 

[Lolvoguy]

Originally Posted by avi1777
no violence,poverty,racism ,political corruption in the stats? it sounds like u live on the moon.

Sure, everywhere has those things. But to have it so bad that it affects EVERY aspect of your life, that's a different story.
Seems like your posting from/in Israel. Things don't seem too peachy over there either.

Come to North America sometime.

 

[OilUzer]

I like the 10000km (6214 miles) idea +/- 1000 miles using synthetic.
With dino less mileage than that.

15000km sounds a little too much with any car. Our DI engine is a tar factory. Nice beautiful color oil in, tar out.
I try not to over 6-7000 miles with that thing using syn. Dino maybe 4000 miles.
No sense using fancy syn with a tar factory. The most expensive oil I've used in our DI is M1 EP and out in 6-7000 mile ... This car loves the EP. In winter I use PP and it does well.

 

[avi1777]

Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Originally Posted by avi1777
no violence,poverty,racism ,political corruption in the stats? it sounds like u live on the moon.

Sure, everywhere has those things. But to have it so bad that it affects EVERY aspect of your life, that's a different story.
Seems like your posting from/in Israel. Things don't seem too peachy over there either.

Come to North America sometime.

true and and as an israeli u know we are and maybe the uk are usa's closest allies and we absolutely admire and look up to u guys but i think u dont really understand the magnitude of the problems in the us.did u know that death by crimes in the usa is higer and i mean WAY higher than death by terror in here? israel is million times safer than the states,life here are awesome even tho scarey sometimes,been all over the stats love it come to israel u will be amazed ask people who where here.

 

[avi1777]

anyway god bless the us and israel and may the us bless iran with some nukes.

 

[4WD]

There are lots of Pennzoil and QS fans here, in the modern flavors that is … but to be honest, those two brands kept the dino 3k/3mo drum beating loud for many years before hitching up to the synthetic train …

 

[4WD]

You know they can ban you from this site for those comments … might want to read the rules …