One Filter

[jmb106]

I would like to use just one filter for all my Honda's Any suggestion are more than welcome!
Thank You
Joe
07 Accord 2.4
99 Civic 1.6 Non Vtec
95 Accord 2.2 Non Vtec

 

[daves87rs]

Wix....

 

[Silver02ex]

My Honda Civic have been using Supertech 7317 most of the time. I posted a picture of a used one not long ago.

 

[CentralNY1]

Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Wix....


+1

The day I buy a new vehicle is the day I buy a case of Wix filters for it.

 

[StevieC]

Amsoil EAO and change it every 20K miles. It's great filtration, less mess and better protection at a cheaper price when you work out the cost per mile!

 

[Gary Allan]

Joe

How many miles a year on your respective Honda's??

 

[jmb106]

I didn't phrase my ? properly! Is there one filter that will work on all three cars as the 99&95 take a Wix 51334 and the 07 uses a Wix 51356 I would like to buy one filter # to work on all 3 cars! So i don't have to buy 2 different filters!

 

[jmb106]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Joe

How many miles a year on your respective Honda's??


The 07 gets 15,000 a year, the 99 gets 10,000 and the 95 i just bought a month ago, will see 10-15,000 a year.

 

[sdan27]

Looking at the spec sheet, it looks like both filters have the same thread. I've found that filters that have the same thread pitch have o-rings that are nearly the same as well but you might want to compare just to be sure. I looked at the fleetguard page and one has about a 7 psi bpv and the other a 14 bpv. You'd have to check the wix figures but I would think that you could probably use either on all vehicles. I don't really feel bpv settings are that important if your engine has a bpv already built into it. Looks like then you'll just have to check if you could use just one atf for all three and one grade engine oil.

 

[Gary Allan]

The 51356 is smaller overall, but appears to be a finer filter. It has a smaller diameter, so it will fit on all applications ..but the 51334 may not. I don't know the specifics of each car in terms of room. Gaskets identical ..bypass identical ..in Wix anyway.


Part Number: 51334
UPC Number: 765809513341
Principal Application: Acura (88-05), Chevrolet (85-88), Dodge (91-96), Ford (88-96), Honda (72-09), Hyundai (89-09), Isuzu (85-04), Kia (01-09), Mercury (87-91), Mitsubishi (89-98), Subaru (87-09) Atlas-Copco, Case, John Deere, Kobelco, Komatsu, Kubota, Onan, Toro & Yanmar Diesel, Other
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.194
Outer Diameter Top: 3.252
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=22/40
Burst Pressure-PSI: 280
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

Part Number: 51356
UPC Number: 765809513563
Principal Application: Acura (02-09), Chrysler Imports (92-06), Ford Probe (93-97), Honda (01-09), Infiniti/Nissan (96-09), Mazda (71-00), Mercury Villager (99-00), Mitsubishi (90-09), Saturn (04-07), Outboard Marine Engines, Various HD Equip.
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.402
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/19
Burst Pressure-PSI: 363
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

 

[ThirdeYe]

The 1334 and 1356 should be interchangeable. According to Wix's specs, the 1356 has slightly better filtration (i.e. beta ratios) so that's what I would choose for all 3 of your Hondas. My '95 Integra recommends the 1334 and I've used a 1356 with no problem.

 

[jmb106]

Originally Posted By: sdan27
Looking at the spec sheet, it looks like both filters have the same thread. I've found that filters that have the same thread pitch have o-rings that are nearly the same as well but you might want to compare just to be sure. I looked at the fleetguard page and one has about a 7 psi bpv and the other a 14 bpv. You'd have to check the wix figures but I would think that you could probably use either on all vehicles. I don't really feel bpv settings are that important if your engine has a bpv already built into it. Looks like then you'll just have to check if you could use just one atf for all three and one grade engine oil.



Thank You sdan27! " Looks like then you'll just have to check if you could use just one atf for all three and one grade engine oil." That would be my ultimate goal! Now if they would only make that 5w25 motor oil i have been waiting for! Now for the transmission i am really torn!

 

[jmb106]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
The 51356 is smaller overall, but appears to be a finer filter. It has a smaller diameter, so it will fit on all applications ..but the 51334 may not. I don't know the specifics of each car in terms of room. Gaskets identical ..bypass identical ..in Wix anyway.


Part Number: 51334
UPC Number: 765809513341
Principal Application: Acura (88-05), Chevrolet (85-88), Dodge (91-96), Ford (88-96), Honda (72-09), Hyundai (89-09), Isuzu (85-04), Kia (01-09), Mercury (87-91), Mitsubishi (89-98), Subaru (87-09) Atlas-Copco, Case, John Deere, Kobelco, Komatsu, Kubota, Onan, Toro & Yanmar Diesel, Other
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.194
Outer Diameter Top: 3.252
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=22/40
Burst Pressure-PSI: 280
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

Part Number: 51356
UPC Number: 765809513563
Principal Application: Acura (02-09), Chrysler Imports (92-06), Ford Probe (93-97), Honda (01-09), Infiniti/Nissan (96-09), Mazda (71-00), Mercury Villager (99-00), Mitsubishi (90-09), Saturn (04-07), Outboard Marine Engines, Various HD Equip.
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.402
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/19
Burst Pressure-PSI: 363
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233



Thank You Gary i have noticed how you are always helping out around here digging for answers spending alot of time finding specs this is much appreciated! Would you mind if i sent you a PM as the ? i have for you is off topic?
Joe

 

[jmb106]

Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
The 1334 and 1356 should be interchangeable. According to Wix's specs, the 1356 has slightly better filtration (i.e. beta ratios) so that's what I would choose for all 3 of your Hondas. My '95 Integra recommends the 1334 and I've used a 1356 with no problem.


I was leaning towards the 1356 as i have both filters in hand. Could you please expand on the beta ratios?
Thank You
joe

 

[sdan27]

For the 51334 the beta ratio is 2/20=22/40. The 2 and the 20 are your percentages. Divide each into 100 ( 100/2=50 and 100/20=5 ) and then you subtract those results from 100 ( 100-50=50 and 100-5=95 ) and then you change those into your % efficiency. 50% and 95%. That means the filter will get 50% of 22 micron particles and 95% of 40 micron particles. For the 51356 you got a beta ratio of 2/20=6/19. So you're getting 50% of 6 micron particles and 95% of 19 micron particles.

 

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: jmb106
I didn't phrase my ? properly! Is there one filter that will work on all three cars as the 99&95 take a Wix 51334 and the 07 uses a Wix 51356 I would like to buy one filter # to work on all 3 cars! So i don't have to buy 2 different filters!


Why go through the pain and risk of using "one filter fits all". You're at the store anyway getting a filter ... why not just buy the right one for each car in the WIX brand.

 

[labman]

Try the bigger one on the car calling for the smaller one. I found the larger PF 52 for my daughter's Beretta worked fine on my Grand AM in place of a PF 47.