Old Colt (1911 style) vs Glock

[Al]

Had a couple colts and still have a WWII Remington. I have stripped the 1911 down to parade rest many many times. Not including screws and grips and sights there are at least 30+ pieces parts.

The glock has (including pins) half that many. Just interesting to see the genius of Mr. Glock.

Of course Browning was the ultimate genius. What a difference 80 years makes.

 

[MRC01]

Speaking of 80 years, my Remington Rand was made just over 80 years ago and still functions like new. I don't know its exact history, but being made in 1941, it was almost certainly used in WW-II. Time will tell whether Glock has that kind of longevity.

PS: too bad Glock got the grip-frame angle wrong. Bad ergonomics for me. Don't mess with success - if it ain't broke don't fix (or change) it.

 

[AZjeff]

Here we go. Glock haters man your keyboards. Agree with your assessment of Glock and Browning but it just brings out the crazy in people.

BTW, have never heard of stripping a pistol to parade rest and one of my shooting friends was a small arms specialist (retired) in the Army who never said it. Does that mean total disassembly?

 

[Pablo]

Did you really just start a 1911 v Glock thread? Seriously?

EVERY forum................banned.

Merry Christmas. Buy and enjoy both. IBTL.

 

[wpod]

The 1911s are much nicer to shoot. I own both. Xds as well. I hate and detest single action revolvers though. Choice is a personal preferance. Join a military and you will learn to use what they put in your hands.

 

[wpod]

Did you really just start a 1911 v Glock thread? Seriously?

EVERY forum................banned.

Merry Christmas. Buy and enjoy both. IBTL.

Kalishnikov vs Ar15 types?

 

[Deleted member 89374]

Did you really just start a 1911 v Glock thread? Seriously?

EVERY forum................banned.

Merry Christmas. Buy and enjoy both. IBTL.

Both can be enjoyed equally.

It's like the old & tired Mac vs. PC argument. I used to have both. Now I'm looking at the Mac Studio for coding and daily keyboard hammering. It's small & efficient. I still enjoy my big old-school workstations for heavier workloads. Each tool has its place.

I don't have a 1911, but it's on the list for when I have some extra money to spend. Maybe something budget friendly like a Turkish Tisas, they're decent quality.

For historical value and as collectables, nothing compares to old guns, especially those that saw combat.

I believe the discussion can be friendly, as there's always more than one way to do things, build a gun, etc.

And yes, Mr. John Moses Browning was a true genius, as his designs stood the testament of time. Mr. Glock's designs were meant for a different time in history, different economic conditions, etc. With competent shooters behind them, they're both effective tools.

 

[totegoat]

I own Brownings because I like them, I don't own a Glock.

 

[UncleDave]

I can help make it more generic - I dont like striker pin guns.

I vastly prefer hammers.

 

[StumblingElk]

Variety is the spice of life.

 

[wpod]

I own Brownings because I like them, I don't own a Glock.

High power? Had one since 1972. It is a girls 1911 !!!

 

[MRC01]

I can help make it more generic - I dont like striker pin guns.
I vastly prefer hammers.

I prefer external hammers mainly because of improved holstering safety. When holstering, rest your thumb over the back of the hammer and if the trigger catches on anything while holstering, you will feel the hammer start to rise and you can stop holstering before it fires. In this situation (which is admittedly rare), a striker fired gun will fire without warning.

 

[LenZee]

Had a couple colts and still have a WWII Remington. I have stripped the 1911 down to parade rest many many times. Not including screws and grips and sights there are at least 30+ pieces parts.

The glock has (including pins) half that many. Just interesting to see the genius of Mr. Glock.

Of course Browning was the ultimate genius. What a difference 80 years makes.

My 1903 Colt pocket hammerless (built in 1918) has 40+ parts and is a real pain to take apart and reassemble. I've only done it once to clean and lube and restore. Never again hopefully. The slide lock alone you need 3 hands to replace. I own quite a few Glocks and they are the easiest to take apart.

 

[UncleDave]

I prefer external hammers mainly because of improved holstering safety. When holstering, rest your thumb over the back of the hammer and if the trigger catches on anything while holstering, you will feel the hammer start to rise and you can stop holstering before it fires. In this situation (which is admittedly rare), a striker fired gun will fire without warning.

I dont/ wont carry firearms around in condition 0 unless engaged in a firefight which has happened exactly once in my life.

Having a safety or multiple safeties doesn't mean anything if they dont do what you want safeties to do.

 

[Astro14]

I prefer external hammers mainly because of improved holstering safety. When holstering, rest your thumb over the back of the hammer and if the trigger catches on anything while holstering, you will feel the hammer start to rise and you can stop holstering before it fires. In this situation (which is admittedly rare), a striker fired gun will fire without warning.

Rare, yes, but my neighbor in Colorado, a security forces guy at Rocky Flats Nuclear Weapon facility, literally shot himself in the foot.

Old weapon - hammer fired Sig. New weapon - Glock. The department issued new weapons. Didn’t issue new holsters.

He was patrolling the perimeter. Over bumpy terrain, he felt the gun rise up in the holster. Palmed it back in, fingers, well away from the trigger, but a bit of holster engaged the Glock “safety trigger” and put a round through his foot and the floor of the vehicle.

 

[skyactiv]

The trigger on a high end 1911 is better than the best trigger on any Glock. But I'd rather have a Glock in terms of reliability.

 

[UncleDave]

Glock/ striker pin guys will swear that this cant happen.

 

[AZjeff]

I know a guy who shot himself in the foot using the wrong holster as well. 100% not the pistol's fault. He knew better but got lazy when changing pistols.

 

[UncleDave]

I know a guy who shot himself in the foot using the wrong holster as well. 100% not the pistol's fault. He knew better but got lazy when changing pistols.

Was there a particular reason that he needed to carry in condition 0?

 

[StumblingElk]

I know people who have had an accidental discharge with nearly every type of firearm. I even had a TC contender that would fire when you closed the barrel too harshly. I was inches away from having a bullet from a 7x30 Waters obliterate my foot.

I know a guy who shot his ceiling with a beretta 92 and another who shot his basement wall with an AK or a Mauser. Don't recall which anymore. I have seen safeties fail and the gun would go off with the safety 'on'. I have seen firearms malfunction and think they were fully auto.

Point is, unless a firearm is defective (Cough Sig 320 Cough), the firearm won't discharge unless the trigger is pulled. I own a myriad and eclectic collection of firearms. I carried a Glock 26 daily for 2 years while rolling around in the mud, getting into altercations, jumping in and out of vehicles, etc and never once had an issue. A little common sense and a good holster go a long way.