Mobil 1 is great with Nissan VQ engines... The 0W-40 Euro version.....!
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Originally Posted By: zloveraz
Mobil 1 is great with Nissan VQ engines... The 0W-40 Euro version.....!
That's what I'm currently running in our two 5.4L Expeditions.
Mobil 1 is great with Nissan VQ engines... The 0W-40 Euro version.....!
That's what I'm currently running in our two 5.4L Expeditions.
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I'd say that these are enough to prevent me from using Mobil 1 in anything
Now you did it
Go get him, Tig!! (all in fun - I love you, Tig!!
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..and thanks for the effort, Rudy!
I'd say that these are enough to prevent me from using Mobil 1 in anything
Now you did it
Go get him, Tig!! (all in fun - I love you, Tig!!
..and thanks for the effort, Rudy!
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But hey, your post is proof that their marketing is working. [/quote]
The marketing is all over the place and not just by valvoline.
Yup it's sure working for me because I switched long time ago from Mobil 1.
Why I don't use Mobil 1 anymore
But hey, your post is proof that their marketing is working. [/quote]
The marketing is all over the place and not just by valvoline.
Yup it's sure working for me because I switched long time ago from Mobil 1.
Why I don't use Mobil 1 anymore
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
So... Every vehicle that I chose using Mobil 1 was operated in more severe circumstances, with drivers with heavier foots, which all had poor maintenance in the past, compared to the ones that used PP? Clearly that isn't the case and cannot be. It would seem that in most cases for whatever reason, in the particle size range tested, mobil 1 had a higher count of wear metals than PP or Synpower.
Rudolphna, you won't be disappointed by your choice. I just ran PP and it did great. I got a UOA to prove it.
So... Every vehicle that I chose using Mobil 1 was operated in more severe circumstances, with drivers with heavier foots, which all had poor maintenance in the past, compared to the ones that used PP? Clearly that isn't the case and cannot be. It would seem that in most cases for whatever reason, in the particle size range tested, mobil 1 had a higher count of wear metals than PP or Synpower.
Rudolphna, you won't be disappointed by your choice. I just ran PP and it did great. I got a UOA to prove it.
Nice compilation, maybe there should be a sticky in the UOA section.
<3 synpower
<3 synpower
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Come on critic, you can't say there there aren't a few trends going on there... Like that Mobil 1 generally has higher iron than PP, even with the same engine. There is 15 of each of those to compare, there is definitely a trend there.
Maybe, but there are still too many different variables to consider the trends to be any meaningful data.
Come on critic, you can't say there there aren't a few trends going on there... Like that Mobil 1 generally has higher iron than PP, even with the same engine. There is 15 of each of those to compare, there is definitely a trend there.
Maybe, but there are still too many different variables to consider the trends to be any meaningful data.
Nice work. I was sort of figuring that the replies would be very similar to the replies I'm seeing here now. In the scope of things and engine life the numbers don't mean much, at least from what many of the experts here say. OTOH it seems like M1 doesn't do as well as the other oils do.
I guess I might be a little prejudice though. I don't like M1, the love was lost almost 2 years ago now. I also have been learning a lot about UOA's on this site too. Some people look at them at the end all be all when they get a good report back. Then in other instances you'll read things like, "what do you expect from a $20 report?" Most of those comments follow reports that show higher iron.
I try and keep an open mind, and feel this way about them. Unless you are trying to look for fuel dilution, or anti freeze in your oil save your money on the UOA. If you are looking for a VOA on your favorite oil they might have some value. Other than that save your money, because as you can see from the comments here they don't have much value. If you plan on trying to extend an OCI they might have some value, that is if the TBN report is accurate, otherwise you might still be taking chances. I better hide.
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I guess I might be a little prejudice though. I don't like M1, the love was lost almost 2 years ago now. I also have been learning a lot about UOA's on this site too. Some people look at them at the end all be all when they get a good report back. Then in other instances you'll read things like, "what do you expect from a $20 report?" Most of those comments follow reports that show higher iron.
I try and keep an open mind, and feel this way about them. Unless you are trying to look for fuel dilution, or anti freeze in your oil save your money on the UOA. If you are looking for a VOA on your favorite oil they might have some value. Other than that save your money, because as you can see from the comments here they don't have much value. If you plan on trying to extend an OCI they might have some value, that is if the TBN report is accurate, otherwise you might still be taking chances. I better hide.
I certainly appreciate the effort but I agree with some of the others who question it's usefulness. If it were three of the same vehicles used in similar environments over a long period of time, with tests by the same lab, it would be a goldmine of info. A silver mine at least. As it is, with all due respect to your good intentions, this is the informational equivalent to the proverbial miner's "sucker hole" and could lead to a lot of false conclusions.
Gives a picture of that often asked any sludged engines??? If you have to read articles from people called Doug, read long winded threads explaining the high wear numbers etc. why bother with the oil??? Unless pain is your middle name.I have to remember link when
asked to show Mobil 1 results..
One can clearly see that PP and Valvoline Synpower are superior too Mobil 1, but I already knew that. It's funny no matter how much proof you have that Mobil 1 is a junk product the Mobil 1 Fanboys will never give in. They always have an excuse for why it turns in bad UOA even when compared too conv. oil.
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Points out a sludged engine on Mobil 1. Very interesting very but not a surprise me thinks.
First of all, nice work Rudolphna, it takes quite some energy to do that sort of exercise.
Even if that has no real meaning to some, they could have at least recognize your effort.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
I notice that Nissan engines don't like Mobil 1.
That is after a similar exercise that I decided not to use this brand for my car, but like I wrote in your ticking noise thread, I would have no problem at all using Mobil1 in a Honda or Toyota engine.
Mobil1 is a great oil, as the other ones, it is just not the best for all the engines. For some engines, other oils return better results.
Is that not why we have so much choice, either for cars or for oils?
Even if that has no real meaning to some, they could have at least recognize your effort.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
I notice that Nissan engines don't like Mobil 1.
That is after a similar exercise that I decided not to use this brand for my car, but like I wrote in your ticking noise thread, I would have no problem at all using Mobil1 in a Honda or Toyota engine.
Mobil1 is a great oil, as the other ones, it is just not the best for all the engines. For some engines, other oils return better results.
Is that not why we have so much choice, either for cars or for oils?
Originally Posted By: zddp77
One can clearly see that PP and Valvoline Synpower are superior too Mobil 1, but I already knew that. It's funny no matter how much proof you have that Mobil 1 is a junk product the Mobil 1 Fanboys will never give in. They always have an excuse for why it turns in bad UOA even when compared too conv. oil.
If anyone's trying to make excuses here, it's you and your co-thinkers. You are the ones sticking your heads in the sand when the real experts speak, and when someone disagrees with you, all you can do is repeat your opinion and call them fanboys. When it comes to that, you might as well just admit you don't really understand the topic at hand.
One can clearly see that PP and Valvoline Synpower are superior too Mobil 1, but I already knew that. It's funny no matter how much proof you have that Mobil 1 is a junk product the Mobil 1 Fanboys will never give in. They always have an excuse for why it turns in bad UOA even when compared too conv. oil.
If anyone's trying to make excuses here, it's you and your co-thinkers. You are the ones sticking your heads in the sand when the real experts speak, and when someone disagrees with you, all you can do is repeat your opinion and call them fanboys. When it comes to that, you might as well just admit you don't really understand the topic at hand.
No, they just point out what is in photo and uoa reports. Sort of really easy to see. Either way month after month same chatter with Mobil 1 and the issues they have. Good I read this website would have bought Mobil 1 and a Fram filter I am sure.
Originally Posted By: Capa
Definitely extreme. Mobil may not be the best synthetic but it is not junk product. You seem to be blinded by the fact that you too are being a fanboy and it is causing you to make illogical and absurd statements.
Exactly. A Valvoline fan boy. Sorry, but Valvoline has NEVER been that great of a synthetic oil. Even some of your Ashland folks would admit that. It's a very good oil now.
Definitely extreme. Mobil may not be the best synthetic but it is not junk product. You seem to be blinded by the fact that you too are being a fanboy and it is causing you to make illogical and absurd statements.
Exactly. A Valvoline fan boy. Sorry, but Valvoline has NEVER been that great of a synthetic oil. Even some of your Ashland folks would admit that. It's a very good oil now.
SEQ.IVA wear test: too recive a pass candidate sample must be under 90 microns of wear... Mobil 1: result 186 microns of wear THAT IS A FAIL ,Valvoline Synpower 26 microns of wear THAT IS A PASS . These are facts not internet hog wash.
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