Oil for a dying engine

[slinky]

I'm thinking I'll just step up to a 10w-40 like Maxlife and not worry about it (the oil pressure is a little low at hot idle with the 5w30).

I'll try to snap some pics of the oil filter when it comes off. Then you guys can see the carnage.

 

[jonny-b]

zoomzoom,
I did the simplest thing in the world; I tried Xado and Restore, over a period of 17-18000 kilometers.
It didn't make any difference in smoking(the car I tested it on is a diesel), power or fuel consumption.

With RVS, since the diesel pump was being "repaired" by the RVS, the fuel consumption dropped 14%, within 1000 miles.

After that, I put it in the differential, transmission and engine.
It has really made a big difference, but not as big as when I treated the diesel pump, since it was mechanically "shot".

Of course, I should have taken a compression test, dynoed it and done exhaust testing, but it cost too much.

Besides, I did contact other RVS users in Sweden, and they were very positive about it.
Then, I decided to give it a try, and it turned out that they were right.

This is the best additive I have tested, without any doubt.
And yes, I have been testing several, including ARX.

RVS simply works, even though I must admit being surprised that it does!

 

[Max_Wander]

+1 for 15w40. It's got all you need to keep that thing going.

 

[FusilliJerry82]

Yeah, I'd def choose an HDEO over a HM oil.

 

[vxcalais]

Although i agree with the HDEO recommendations and currently run Delvac MX in my buick 3.8 doesnt this go against most recommendations, if its good enough for a dying engine, would they have to be some of the best oils ? Arent we all trying to stop our engines dying ?

 

[jonny-b]

No, sadly it isn't so.

Most people here, seem to be thinking most about how to "use up" their engine, before throwing it away.

That way, they don't look for solutions that can substantially prolong engine life.

Especially since the products I point to, is so new, that 99,9999% of the mechanics haven't heard about it.

That's also the problem, because consumers like to do what other consumers do.

If others don't use it, they won't use it.

Most people would spend 1000-1500$ on new tires and rims(even if their original tires are fine), but when it comes to use 100$ on a product that will improve efficiency and prolong engine life, they seem to suddenly go into blue-screen mode.

 

[Spector]

Son had the 3.2L and it sounded like a diesel for years but kept on running. Never did die but with all dealers in the area gone and parts harder to find he unloaded it.

So, I would just keep driving it and see what happens, the oil probably will not make any difference in how much longer it goes

 

[PT1]

I would do several 3000 mile oil changes with PP 10w40 and the Walmart rebate ($20 for the oil with a $15 rebate look in the rebate section here) I would use a supertech filter and change it every 1500 miles and try and get as much debris out as possible. Try this for 2 OCI's and reassess. You may get all the debris out and it will keep running. Then switch to Maxlife 10w30 or 10w40.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Originally Posted By: PT1
I would do several 3000 mile oil changes with PP 10w40 and the Walmart rebate ($20 for the oil with a $15 rebate look in the rebate section here) I would use a supertech filter and change it every 1500 miles and try and get as much debris out as possible. Try this for 2 OCI's and reassess. You may get all the debris out and it will keep running. Then switch to Maxlife 10w30 or 10w40.
If there is that much "debris" he wont have an engine above the oil pan after that

Drop the pan, clean it out, clean the pickup screen and assess the rod big ends.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

If a car is using oil you dont want a heavy HDEO ADDS load in there, you end up depositing ash in the CC; nevermind the cat.

 

[jstutz]

15w40 HDEO is about your best option. Works great in gassers for HD apps or in cases like yours. My 1500 4.3 loged its first 100k miles on bulk HDEO from a power plant. Still running okay after another 115k miles

 

[vxcalais]

Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
If a car is using oil you dont want a heavy HDEO ADDS load in there, you end up depositing ash in the CC; nevermind the cat.


Some Performance Petrol oils have just as much sulphated ash levels as HDEO SL/CI4 oils. Mobil 1 is in the 12 TBN range down here.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Yeah, dont run them either

I worry if the usage is a litre per 1000K or on a sloppy chrome ring race motor with forged slugs. CC ash deposits are a problem many dont think about; but possibly thats the least of the OP's issues on the 'Suzie'.

 

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted By: jonny-b
zoomzoom,
I did the simplest thing in the world; I tried Xado and Restore, over a period of 17-18000 kilometers.
It didn't make any difference in smoking(the car I tested it on is a diesel), power or fuel consumption.

With RVS, since the diesel pump was being "repaired" by the RVS, the fuel consumption dropped 14%, within 1000 miles.

After that, I put it in the differential, transmission and engine.
It has really made a big difference, but not as big as when I treated the diesel pump, since it was mechanically "shot".

Of course, I should have taken a compression test, dynoed it and done exhaust testing, but it cost too much.

Besides, I did contact other RVS users in Sweden, and they were very positive about it.
Then, I decided to give it a try, and it turned out that they were right.

This is the best additive I have tested, without any doubt.
And yes, I have been testing several, including ARX.

RVS simply works, even though I must admit being surprised that it does!


Hm I wonder what would results be if you have left the pump alone and treated just engine as you did with Xado and Restore?

 

[slinky]

Curiosity got the best of me so I went ahead and pulled the oil filter and cut it open even though it had less than 1,000 miles on it. I was surprised to find that it was pretty clean. I could see a tiny bit of glitter in the pleats but nothing like the last one I pulled. I'm not sure what to think, but I'm pretty sure it'll make it aleast through the winter.

I tried to snap some pics but you can't see anything out of the ordinary with my [censored] camera.

 

[CATERHAM]

Originally Posted By: zoomzoom
Originally Posted By: jonny-b
zoomzoom,
I did the simplest thing in the world; I tried Xado and Restore, over a period of 17-18000 kilometers.
It didn't make any difference in smoking(the car I tested it on is a diesel), power or fuel consumption.

With RVS, since the diesel pump was being "repaired" by the RVS, the fuel consumption dropped 14%, within 1000 miles.

After that, I put it in the differential, transmission and engine.
It has really made a big difference, but not as big as when I treated the diesel pump, since it was mechanically "shot".

Of course, I should have taken a compression test, dynoed it and done exhaust testing, but it cost too much.

Besides, I did contact other RVS users in Sweden, and they were very positive about it.
Then, I decided to give it a try, and it turned out that they were right.

This is the best additive I have tested, without any doubt.
And yes, I have been testing several, including ARX.

RVS simply works, even though I must admit being surprised that it does!


Hm I wonder what would results be if you have left the pump alone and treated just engine as you did with Xado and Restore?



I used Restore about 20 years ago in a worn engine that was
down on power. It did what it claims to do, improve the compression. It also clogs the oil filter which must be changed shortly after treatment.
But the increased compression didn't last long, maybe a few thousand miles, then you had use the product again. It certainly doesn't permanently fix the problem. It also didn't reduce the oil consumption. In it's favor it's not expensive.

RSV sounds interesting, might be worth trying.

 

[Hethaerto]

Originally Posted By: jonny-b
By the way; I have been testing Xado and Restore.

Xado did nothing, and is just a fake.

Restore didn't do anything, either.



I'm trying out CerMet and Xado right now in two different vehicles. You already know this, but anyway, the CerMet is installed in my Volvo, and is working great. I couldn't ask for better results.

I got curious, and then added one tube of Xado to the Volvo to see how it would react with the Cermet.

That Volvo has never gotten better than 28 mpg on the highway, even after CerMet. CerMet brought the city mileage up from 18 to 21.5. I installed the one tube of Xado, reset the computer, and drove 40 miles straight. The mileage went up from 28 to 29.5 and stayed there until the end of the 40 mile trip. I could also feel stronger pickup from the throttle. The car is running so nicely now, I just can't believe it.

 

[seremban]

Originally Posted By: jonny-b

That's also the problem, because consumers like to do what other consumers do.

If others don't use it, they won't use it.



Sometimes I feel that humans are like parrots...they repeat what other ppl do or say without thinking.

 

[mjoekingz28]

Originally Posted By: jonny-b
No, sadly it isn't so.

Most people here, seem to be thinking most about how to "use up" their engine, before throwing it away.

That way, they don't look for solutions that can substantially prolong engine life.

Especially since the products I point to, is so new, that 99,9999% of the mechanics haven't heard about it.

That's also the problem, because consumers like to do what other consumers do.

If others don't use it, they won't use it.

Most people would spend 1000-1500$ on new tires and rims(even if their original tires are fine), but when it comes to use 100$ on a product that will improve efficiency and prolong engine life, they seem to suddenly go into blue-screen mode.


Rims and tires give instant gratification and you know they'll be what you expect. Even if 'snake oil' does work it is a gamble a consumer must make. At $100 it is a mighty expensive gamble. I hate spending money on stuff that doesn't work, but in that one in ten chance it does work it still isn't worth the risk to most I assume.

 

[mjoekingz28]

Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Yeah, dont run them either

I worry if the usage is a litre per 1000K or on a sloppy chrome ring race motor with forged slugs. CC ash deposits are a problem many dont think about; but possibly thats the least of the OP's issues on the 'Suzie'.


The new triple protection looks like it claims less ash.
"• 30% increase in active ashless chemistry to protect against deposits and sludge*


• 30% increase in active ashless chemistry to protect against deposits and sludge*

btw, I just saw a single bottle on the shelf at walmart for the first time.