Oil Filter Longevity

[RAK]

Because of my once-a-year OCI for my Mustang, would an oil filter
with more "longevity" be used? I currently install the Motorcraft FL-400S
at every change. I've never cut open a used filter, so I don't know
what the pleats look like. Does the pleat material (i.e., cellulose,
synthetic blend fibers, glass media, et. al) matter with a once-a-year OCI?
BTW the Mustang logs between 2-3K each year, and I've owned it since 2003.
Thanks for your input and expertise!

 

[slacktide_bitog]

You do not need a long life filter for your usage. But Wix is awesome

 

[KingCake]

Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
You do not need a long life filter for your usage. But Wix is awesome

If you like overpaying for poor efficiency then yeah wix is awesome.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: RAK
Because of my once-a-year OCI for my Mustang, would an oil filter
with more "longevity" be used? I currently install the Motorcraft FL-400S
at every change. I've never cut open a used filter, so I don't know
what the pleats look like. Does the pleat material (i.e., cellulose,
synthetic blend fibers, glass media, et. al) matter with a once-a-year OCI?
BTW the Mustang logs between 2-3K each year, and I've owned it since 2003.
Thanks for your input and expertise!


In your case, the Motorcraft FL-400S oil filter is fine for a 1 year change interval.

 

[RooflessVW]

Originally Posted By: KingCake
If you like overpaying for poor efficiency then yeah wix is awesome.

Nice hot take. Care to back that up?

 

[Dyusik]

Originally Posted By: KingCake
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
You do not need a long life filter for your usage. But Wix is awesome

If you like overpaying for poor efficiency then yeah wix is awesome.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: KingCake
If you like overpaying for poor efficiency then yeah wix is awesome.

Nice hot take. Care to back that up?


He's talking about the WIX XP ... pretty low efficiency for a full synthetic oil filter. It's been talked about many times in this forum.

 

[RooflessVW]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: KingCake
If you like overpaying for poor efficiency then yeah wix is awesome.

Nice hot take. Care to back that up?

He's talking about the WIX XP ... pretty low efficiency for a full synthetic oil filter. It's been talked about many times in this forum.

Sure, maybe. But that's not what he said. He said "Wix."

Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.


What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.

 

[Hessam]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.


What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.


FACT

 

[xtell]

I have a 1999 Trans Am that accumulates 3,000 to 4,000 miles per year. I have been doing once a year oil changes on it since I bought it new. I've used Wix, AcDelco and Purolator filters and cut some open over the years and have never found any of the filter media distorted, torn or in any way degraded. You should have no problems going with a "once a year" oil filter change, especially at the mileage you accumulate. I even save the drain oil(Synthetic)from my "once a year" oil changes done on the T/A and use it in another one of my vehicles.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.


What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.


"White paper(s)" say this? How about real peer reviewed journal papers?

There's a point of practical diminishing return, beyond which flow and restriction trump.

 

[goodtimes]

Buying fresh filters made within a year helps. I got some before online that were old when I got them. I did see on some filter box on here "indefinite" life, don't remember which one, Honda maybe. Getting a filter made within two years and using it in one year shouldn't be a problem with any brand name, IMO of course. Also IMO I would steer clear of the not well known and usually very cheap brands.

 

[KingCake]

Quote:
How about real peer reviewed journal papers?



oh boy the fake news has arrived

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.

What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.


I wonder how many "peak HP" I'm down having used OEM Honda, Toyota and BMW filters all these years.

It's a wonder I can get on the freeway.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: Hessam
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.

What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.

FACT


10 peak HP is "fact"?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.


What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.


"White paper(s)" say this? How about real peer reviewed journal papers?

There's a point of practical diminishing return, beyond which flow and restriction trump.


Yeah, probably real journal papers too.

BTW, it's possible to have a very efficient oil filter that also flows very well (ie, small delta-p with high oil flow).

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.

What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.


I wonder how many "peak HP" I'm down having used OEM Honda, Toyota and BMW filters all these years.

It's a wonder I can get on the freeway.


You know it was a rhetorical statement, right? The point is, even if engines did wear more from using inefficient oil filters, probably nobody is going to be able to tell the difference. But the bottom line is using a high efficiency oil filter certainly isn't going to hurt, whereas using a low efficiency oil filter might.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Hessam
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Still waiting on evidence that a "reduced efficiency" filter like the Wix XP will reduce engine life... Or if it's just a bunch of nail biting as is usual around here.

What's "reduced engine life" really mean? Does it mean it blows up or does it mean it has 10 peak HP less due to more wear? All I know is that every white paper ever written says that less engine wear results when the oil is kept cleaner.

FACT


10 peak HP is "fact"?


Missed the point ... he's agreeing with the fact that cleaner oil will result in less engine wear.