Oil filter for a 1 year OCI?

[Vasili]

I posted a question in the oil forum about an oil to use for a year OCI. Now that I have an answer to that, I'm looking for an oil filter that I can easily get in the Toronto, Ontario, Canada area.

The filter would be used in two cars. A 1997 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme SL (3.1L V6) and a 1988 Mercury Topaz L (2.3L I4).

As I stated above the OCI will be 1 year, and the number of kilometres driven in a year will be about 10,000 km (6,250 miles).

The filters I was looking at are as follows... (In order of availability)

Fram Synthetic Oil Filer. (Fram X2 in the USA)
- Designed for 11,000 km (6,875 miles)
- I like the flow rate based on the oil filter study, and the fact that it has the metal mesh backing for the media.
- On sale I can get it at Canadian Tire for C$8.99 (US$7.72)
- One thing I do not want to hear in this thread is how other Fram filters suck in general, etc. I am looking at this filter so if you have any bones to pick about this filter let me know. More importantly if you know of a better filter that I can buy in Toronto, and even better still at a lower price I am all ears, or in this case eyes.

Purolator PureONE
- The filter media is excellent, but the flow rate concerns me a little bit.
- In the Mercury the flow rate won't be too much of an issue because in the city the engine runs below 2,000 rpm (I know I don't have a lead foot) and the highway sees less than 3,250 rpm.
- The Oldsmobile on the other hand, is just more fun to drive and I can't say I drive it hard (the lack of a lead foot will do that to you) but I do want a well flowing oil filter in that one.
- I have been trying to find this filter in the Toronto area, and I have called several places that are "suppose" to stock them but don't. If any one know where to buy them post it here, or send me a private message.

Other filters....
Then there's the other filters, but they are not as easy to get, no idea where to get, or I have no idea if they are even sold in Canada.

Mobil 1/Mobil 1 EP oil filter.
- This would probably be tied for the ideal filter to use. But I have no idea where to get it, and I am not driving to the USA just for oil filters. If I'm there on a trip, that's a different story in which case I'll pick up some, but no trips are planned.

AMSOIL SDF
- I like this filter, which is why its tied as the ideal filter with the Mobil 1 filter. The only issue I have is that they say to take out the filter after six months. Asides from that, it actually fits all my needs, asides from being easy to find.
- There was some talk about AMSOIL coming out with an oil filter for 1 year OCIs. Has there been any new news on this? Because if its coming out before the end of this, I might just end up waiting for it.

Some other filters I've heard about are the Napa Gold, and filters made by Wix (not sure which model).

If you know of any other filters that are available in the GTA then let me know where they are, and the information on them, and I'll be happy to consider them.

Thanks in advanced for all the help and informations folks.

P.S.
Here is a link to my thread in the oil forum about the oil for the 1 year OCI that I'm doing.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=012352

 

[Gary Allan]

I'd go with PureOne myself. I can't comment on the Fram since I haven't used them in many years. I've used the PureOne (the smallest that I could find) in my filter test ..and it yielded very little accumulation in terms of PSID in about 5k of use.

My reservations would not be with the filter as much as going only that limited mileage in one year. Canadian climate ..or for that matter any 4 season climate makes me look toward 6 month OCI's

Kralinator is WIX in Canada ..or rather WIX makes Kralinator for the Canadian market if you want one of them.

 

[dkryan]

For one year OCIs I'd use a Mobil 1 filter. Maybe you can go to the Exxon-Mobil website and find a Canadian retailer for their filters.

I'd also use a PureOne if the M-1 were unavailable and I'd give strong consideration to using a Napa Gold (which I understand to be a high quality Wix filter).

No Fram, no Amsoil, no Purolator Premium. I've never been a Fram fan and while I have nothing against the Amsoil filter (my Dad uses them in his '97 Taurus) or Purolator Premium, with a one year OCI, I'd feel confident with the three I mentioned.

Good luck.

 

[theguru]

M1 EP or PureOne

 

[MN Driver]

I'm always confused about the Purolator filters because most people on here say the PureOne flow isn't enough and the Purolator PremiumPlus is better because it filters excellently and flows very well. Why is the PremiumPlus filter holding different point of views? Most of the time it seems that people will use the PremiumPlus or a different filter entirely instead of the PureOne. I'm just wondering though because with the great comments I have received from this forum, I decided to switch to PremiumPlus.

 

[Ken2]

Just about any filter with silicone rubber parts for 1-year usage. The biggest risk of long time filter use is the rubber parts deteriorating and leaking.

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I'm always confused about the Purolator filters because most people on here say the PureOne flow isn't enough

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The PureOne flows all the oil the engine needs and meets the engine manufacturer's spec. What else is needed?


Ken

 

[pitzel]

GM spec's 15k miles on any 'normal' oil filter on the 3.1L V6 in the Cutlass Supreme in my owner's manual.

Since the 3.1 doesn't rely upon an ADBV in its design, the whole ADBV argument doesn't really matter. Just use a cheap Wix or Fram, or Baldwin, and save the balance for a UOA to detect the inevitable coolant leaks inherent in the 3100's design.

 

[Buzzsaw]

I would put an E-Core filter on it and cut it open after the year is up to see if it held up. I bet it would.

 

[paulinfiji]

Check this link:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=001680&p=0

 

[Mr Nice]

I've gone 16K miles with a Purolator Premium Plus for my wife's Civic EX.

 

[Propflux01]

****, just put a cheapy regular Fram on it, Obviously the fram supporters think it is a good enough filter, and the box says it meets or exceeds OEM requirements.

 

[98AV6]

I use XD-3 along with a Fram X2 for my 6 month OCI!
It's the only filter locally available with a silicone ADBV and 11k km OCI rating.

X2..Where do you find it so cheap? It's $12.99 regular price, and 10.99 on sale.
If you can find better filters up here,

post it !

 

[olympic]

Napa Gold filters are generally easy to find. They have a silicone ADBV, glass reinforced media and cost around $5-6 CDN each. I've been doing 20,000km OCI's with them.

 

[Andy H]

Vasili,

AMSOIL's 1-year/25,000 mile filters will be on the streets the first of November. These use the Donaldson Endurance 'Synteq' nanofiber media and are rated at 98.75 removal at 15 microns and 50% at 7. The time/mileage interval is whichever comes first, and are for severe service.

While it's true that the gaskets are an important part of building a long-drain filter, the media is as well. Cellulose filter fibers are held together with phenolic binders that degrade in the hot-oil environment. It's important to pay attention to the mileage or time rating on the filter.

The US filter manufacturing council is for air and oil filters like the API is for US oil. They clearly state on their web site that oil filters for US Big Three automakers are built for a normal service interval of 6 months or 7500 miles, whichever comes first. They further state that filter change intervals should be backed-off to 5000 miles or 3000 miles if in moderate or severe service. Most folks in North America (like in the high 90% range) are in the severe classification.

Andy

 

[98AV6]

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Originally posted by olympic:
Napa Gold filters are generally easy to find. They have a silicone ADBV, glass reinforced media and cost around $5-6 CDN each. I've been doing 20,000km OCI's with them.

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NAPA Golds should have a silicone or Red ADBV .
All the Golds I checked at my NAPA had a black nitrile ADBV.

 

[Matt89]

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Originally posted by Andy H:
Vasili,

The US filter manufacturing council is for air and oil filters like the API is for US oil.

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From what I've read the FMC is firmly dedicated to making sure you change out your oil and filter as close to every 3000 miles and 3 months as possible...

Yet Mobil says you can run 'any' filter with their M1 EP oil for 15K miles or 1 year. Go figure.

 

[Andy H]

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Originally posted by Matt89:

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Originally posted by Andy H:
Vasili,

The US filter manufacturing council is for air and oil filters like the API is for US oil.

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From what I've read the FMC is firmly dedicated to making sure you change out your oil and filter as close to every 3000 miles and 3 months as possible...

Yet Mobil says you can run 'any' filter with their M1 EP oil for 15K miles or 1 year. Go figure.

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Matt, AMSOIL says you can use any filter for their 1 year/25000 or 1 year/35000 mile interval as well - but they also say you need to change the filter at the filter manufacturer's interval - not necessarily the OCI. Mobil's recommendation is accurate, but they didn't specify the filter change interval.

Less effective filtration means that there are more particles in the oil to cause wear and catalyze chemical reactions in the oil causing it to age. The add-oil from the mid-OCI filter changes keeps the oil alive longer.

Andy

 

[Vasili]

Thanks to everyone for your posts, information, and advice.

I had been planning to change out the oil when it got really cold (below -17°C / 1.4°F because that's the limit the manual says for 10w30 which is in my car), but much to my surprise it never got that cold (not that I am complaining mind you).

Any way, the Motomaster Formula 1 100% Synthetic will be taken out, and my oil of choice to replace it is Esso XD-3 0W-30.

I called NAPA today in my area to see if they had NAPA Gold filters and they did. So I'll be picking one up either this week or next week. I would have gone sooner, but its been so nice and warm (well I guess in Canada you can say warm is the absence of freezing temperatures) so I'm in no rush.

They said the NAPA Gold filter for my application (1988 Mercury Topaz) was $7.09 so I'm pleased with the price too.

I guess the point of this post, is just to ask any one in the Toronto, Ontario, Canada area, do you know of any better filters that I can get without driving out of the city? I would love one of the new Mobil 1 EP filters, but it will probably be a long time, if ever, until we see them here.

So thanks again to everyone that posted, and a belated Happy New Year to everyone!

 

[Matt89]

Andy -

Sorry for the delay in responding...I hear what you are saying. I was just surprised that Mobil was OK with 'any' filter warrantee-wise for 15K/1yr running the EP oil. I'd love to see a Fram with 15K/1year on it - it would probably be fine but I'd prefer if it was a filter off somebody else's car

I personally plan on running the Amsoil EaO for a year with the TSO 0W-30. I figure if I'm going that long on an OCI I don't want any question marks.

 

[Yuk]

Vasili,

I don't know if Baldwin uses silicone rubber parts, but they are certainly held in high regard, and sold in Canada at Acklands-Grainger.

Although many locations exist in Ontario the only Toronto listing is:

Acklands-Grainger Inc.
1400 OConnor Drive
Toronto East, Ontario, M4B 2T8

Tel416) 751-6662
Fax416) 751-3366
Contact:Winston Pandoo


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