Obama's next "Beast"

[PeteTheFarmer]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
What is wrong with the current model in use now? Is it worn out?

They say it's supposed to resemble a 2009 Cadillac DTS which is no longer in production.

So what? Does it have to resemble a current production model?

What a serious waste of taxpayer money.


Replacing the vehicle after about 5 years doesn't seem that unusual in recent history

1939 Lincoln K-series "Sunshine Special", used by Franklin D. Roosevelt.
1942 Lincoln Custom, used by Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman.
1950 Lincoln Cosmopolitan, used by Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, and John F. Kennedy. Currently on display at the Henry Ford Museum, this vehicle was the first to use a bulletproof "bubbletop" canopy, which was added in 1954. The car remained in service until 1967.
1961 Lincoln Continental SS-100-X, used by John F. Kennedy.
1965 Lincoln Continental, used by Lyndon B. Johnson.
1969 Lincoln Continental, used by Richard Nixon.
1972 Lincoln Continental, used by Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and Ronald Reagan. It was ordered as a 1972 model with the 1973 body style, and updated later to match 1977-1979 models. It was involved in the 1975 assassination attempt of President Ford, as well as the 1981 assassination attempt of President Reagan. It is currently on display at the Henry Ford Museum.
1983 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, used by Ronald Reagan.
1989 Lincoln Town Car, used by George H.W. Bush.
1993 Cadillac Fleetwood, used by Bill Clinton. This was the first Cadillac that was designed from the ground up for use as a state car. Previous models were modified production units. It is on display at the Clinton Presidential Library.
2001 Cadillac DTS, used by George W. Bush.
2005 Cadillac DTS, used by George W. Bush.
2009 Cadillac "Cadillac One", used by Barack Obama.

 

[metalboy]

I think the idea of out-maneuvering an anti-tank missile is farcial at best. It needs major armor and enough power to move quickly, sure, but "dodging" is not security, it's luck.

If these vehicles are $300,000, it's a bargain. It's the g-d President.

5 years or so does seem to be the typical lifespan on these limos. Presumably they have some sort of schedule based on advances in armoring, etc.

 

[Win]

The president insists that the public drive around in crummy little lightweight, fuel sipping, econoboxes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say.

Get him a Harley and stick him in the sidecar. Or let him tool around in the backseat of a Sonic if he needs a roof.

 

[Tdbo]

Originally Posted By: Win
The president insists that the public drive around in crummy little lightweight, fuel sipping, econoboxes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say.

Get him a Harley and stick him in the sidecar. Or let him tool around in the backseat of a Sonic if he needs a roof.


Amazed he just doesn't have the exterior designed so that looks like a Chevy Volt on steroids.

Waste of money, the vehicle should at least be on a 10 year replacement cycle.

 

[hattaresguy]

This car is not $300k its well over $1m.

An S class built to the highest Guard standard is over $1m, NFW is GM producing this thing for less.

$300k won't even buy you a stock Bentley, let alone a full on armored head of state car.

I would guess the cost is $1.5-$2.5 million.



$300k will get you an S550 designed to resist pistol caliber rounds or maybe a C or E class designed for light explosives. No where near what a head of state would use.

About 7 years ago we almost bought my mom a C class guard that was 2 years old and owned by the head of the Bridgeport school system. The car was totaled out the week before we were going to buy it.

 

[dishdude]

Originally Posted By: hattaresguy

About 7 years ago we almost bought my mom a C class guard that was 2 years old and owned by the head of the Bridgeport school system. The car was totaled out the week before we were going to buy it.


What the heck does the head of the Bridgeport School System need an armored car for??

 

[Win]

Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
.....

About 7 years ago we almost bought my mom a C class guard that was 2 years old and owned by the head of the Bridgeport school system. The car was totaled out the week before we were going to buy it.



Wait ... what?

Some two bit head of a public school system has an armored car, and Joe Schmoe taxpayer gets hassles for a handgun or an AR-15?

Wow. Just wow.

edit: my outrage is reserved for a vehicle purchased with public funds. If it was bought with his/her own money, well, never mind.

 

[hattaresguy]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy

About 7 years ago we almost bought my mom a C class guard that was 2 years old and owned by the head of the Bridgeport school system. The car was totaled out the week before we were going to buy it.


What the heck does the head of the Bridgeport School System need an armored car for??


Cause its Bridgeport and a ghetto, and he paid for it. Whatever a C320 went for in 2005 + $30k Guard package.

My sister taught for a ghetto school, so I understand why he bought it.

An old lady didn't see a stop sign and ran it right before we were going to buy it, totaled the car out.

 

[jrustles]

Originally Posted By: Win
The president insists that the public drive around in crummy little lightweight, fuel sipping, econoboxes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say.

Get him a Harley and stick him in the sidecar. Or let him tool around in the backseat of a Sonic if he needs a roof.

 

[dishdude]

The President drove a 300 when he was in the Senate.

 

[Ryan]

I missed the 300k part. Having used to work for the USSS, 300k is nowhere close to the amount of money that is tied up into that mug!

 

[tightwad]

I think I remember reading that GM sells the car to the government at a loss for the advertising benefit. I'm betting that Cadillac wins the bid again and the new car is styled to look like the Caddy flagship car due in 2016.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Tesla car would be awesome. Too bad weight is too much to overcome.

 

[Trav]

Sneak peek just leaked.

 

[morris]

the 300K only covers the paper work.

 

[metalboy]

Originally Posted By: Trav
Sneak peek just leaked.

Wa-hey, I knew we wouldn't get out of this thread without some blatant racism.

 

[strat81]

Originally Posted By: Win
The president insists that the public drive around in crummy little lightweight, fuel sipping, econoboxes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say.


He does? Presumably you are a member of the public. Your signature lists the following "fuel sipping econoboxes"
09 Torrent 3.6 V6 Fram 5/30
09 Solstice 2.4 I4 Fram 5w30
08 G8 3.6 V6 M1 0/40
04 Xj8 4.2 V8 Fram 5w30
99 S-10 2.2 I4
94 Xj12 6.0 V12

I suppose the S10 may qualify. But I LOL @ V12 Jaguar fuel sipping econobox.

I don't like the guy either, but let's be honest with our criticism (which doesn't belong on BITOG anyway).

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: strat81
Originally Posted By: Win
The president insists that the public drive around in crummy little lightweight, fuel sipping, econoboxes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say.


He does? Presumably you are a member of the public. Your signature lists the following "fuel sipping econoboxes"
09 Torrent 3.6 V6 Fram 5/30
09 Solstice 2.4 I4 Fram 5w30
08 G8 3.6 V6 M1 0/40
04 Xj8 4.2 V8 Fram 5w30
99 S-10 2.2 I4
94 Xj12 6.0 V12

I suppose the S10 may qualify. But I LOL @ V12 Jaguar fuel sipping econobox.

I don't like the guy either, but let's be honest with our criticism (which doesn't belong on BITOG anyway).


I believe he's referencing the 54.5 MPG CAFE mandate for 2025. 35.5 MPG by 2016.

I believe all federal government owned passenger vehicles should exceed CAFE standards. No Suburbans, no Kodiak limos, none of that. If they want to mandate something ridiculous, they should have to deal with it too.

 

[SteveSRT8]

One of the biggest issues with our leadership is they follow a different set of rules...

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: metalboy
Wa-hey, I knew we wouldn't get out of this thread without some blatant racism.


Where do you get that idea? Thats the problem with followers of this guy, say or even post a picture of anything even in humor and your a racist. Get over it!

Remember the Rodeo clown? Also accused of racism even though he had done the same about other Presidents.

I don't like the mans politics but i could care less about his race or color.