North Korea & Student

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Originally Posted By: Gasbuggy
If I was there I would probably take something.


This is why a country like North Korea was harsh on that student...
I'd have NO sympathy if you ended up in the same situation, breaking rocks, and suffering for 15 long hard years. It would serve you right for ignoring the laws and rules of a nation you CHOSE to go to, and are a guest.
 
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
The student DID actually steal posters from the wall of the hotel hallway, they have it on camera!

Sorry, I don't care if you are 18 or 19 and are a student, if you are traveling to another country you MUST ABIDE by THEIR LAWS RULES, no matter how unfair or outrageous they might seem to be.

NOBODY forced this student to go to North Korea, and considering he was in college he obviously isn't retarded...

He broke the law and now will pay the price. I wish we had hard labor for drug, and armed robbery crimes in the USA.


If there is video, will the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea publish the video? Until it is published I do not believe it exists.
 
Originally Posted By: dave1251


If there is video, will the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea publish the video? Until it is published I do not believe it exists.


It was on almost every US evening network newscast tonight, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News as well...go watch. It's real.
 
It's really every HUMAN's duty to do whatever small act they can against that hellhole. Calling it a country is a stretch.
 
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Proof, again. Stupid can't be fixed.

That's if you believe the account by North Korea. They're well known for forcing confessions.

No, it's stupid to go anywhere near North Korea.

You're correct. The student most likely did nothing and was falsely accused and imprisoned. That's my point.

If I go to South Korea I would stay at last 10 miles away from the North Korea border. May be 50 miles is safer.
 
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Simple, when in other countries you follow their laws. Just like when the kid got caned for tagging and spitting gum in Singapore.

I think that kid became a model citizen in some city in US after that incident.

Many kids think that with US passport they are immune to local laws.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
If I go to South Korea I would stay at last 10 miles away from the North Korea border. May be 50 miles is safer.

I think that covers it nicely. While it would be incredibly interesting and educational to visit North Korea, I'm not sure it's worth the risk. Being in a plane crash would be incredibly interesting and educational, too, but I'm not volunteering for that, either.
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
What is an American doing in NK ???


It's more common than one thinks. I didn't realize it until I watched a few documentaries.

I'm not sure why someone would really want to go there. It's a backwards place for sure and there is a lot of Koolaid being consumed.

But it is kind of interesting how they have stayed relative separated from the western world since the Korean war.



Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: tig1
Why would any westerner go to NK?


A lot of 'westerners' hate the west....many of them are in college ....


I believe the phrase that applies to them is Feelin' the Bern
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
But it is kind of interesting how they have stayed relative separated from the western world since the Korean war.

you have to remember that up to '89 there was such a thing as the ussr and eastern european communist countries.
delivering raw materials (south america, cuba, NK, many others) for money/tech/knowledge/construction/who knows what....
 
You have to be careful when traveling in Communist countries. I did some research work in China 30+ years ago before the industrialization. We usually had a "host" with us who was a nice young lady who spoke perfect English. We were also given a 5 page " Welcome to China" document to sign at entry which on page 5 spelled out that we were not allowed to talk to anyone, photograph anything, record anything, or take anything with us under "severe" penalty of law. (welcome)
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They bugged our phones, searched our luggage and confiscated one of my cameras and some film I had. Our "host " did allow us to take pictures of the "beautiful Chinese countryside". However, when we were about 80 miles North of Hanoi on the border and ran across a convoy of what was apparently captured US military vehicles...(don't know how they got there) we were escorted out of the area by armed Chinese troops. Later that day we were invited to a reception by our "host" during which all of our hotel room and luggage were tossed and everyone's film grew legs and left the building.

I put most of my film in a plastic bag and stored it in the toilet.(where I always keep 35mm film). The rest of my film went missing.

I laugh when I see the Asian students at Yale complain about having "safe spaces"
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I did a little more research on what might have happened. The foreigners stay in hotel Yanggakdo. That hotel doesn't have a 5-th floor but it can be accessed through the stairwell. It's a floor that's packed with propaganda posters and is rumored to be used for spying on the guests. It's a restricted area.

My guess is, he got to that floor and took a poster from there. If he wasn't caught on CCTV, he must have bragged about it on Skype or in email or to a friend.

That's how they probably got him.

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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
No, he was tortured after having a confession beaten out of him.


You mean like US tortures people to confess to terrorist acts they never committed?
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+1 but we are not told about these instances in our media.
 
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
No, he was tortured after having a confession beaten out of him.


You mean like US tortures people to confess to terrorist acts they never committed?
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+1 but we are not told about these instances in our media.


That's the truth.



Some folks here are so incredibly blind to US generated
propagenda, the mass media is owned and controlled by certain interests groups that actually work with the military industrial complex on a regular basis, a lot of the so called
"expert analysts" on the newscasts are former military or intelligence spooks that are still being paid by the US military or intel agencies as well as the media outlets...
 
Moment Otto Warmbier steals propaganda poster bearing the name 'Kim Jong Il' from North Korean hotel....BUSTED.

Interestingly Otto claims that he was "goaded" into taking the posters by a secret society on his campus called the "Z" society founded in
1892 which heavily promotes DIEversity...and heavily support jewish students as well, hmmm does Z stand for ZIONIST?
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In that case I'm not disappointed at all that this stooge got
15 years of hard labor for his belligerence.
 
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vowel, weren't you the one posting that folks with marijuana should get serious jail time? Do you even have a understanding how the legal system works?
 
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
vowel, weren't you the one posting that folks with marijuana should get serious jail time? Do you even have a understanding how the legal system works?


Our civil justice system cannot deal with the multicultural, multiracial, fractured society we have today, it wasn't designed for such duty, and we can see that its failure is more serious by the day. We no longer live in a "nation", but instead a tower of babel.
The foundation of the USA, our Constitution was never intended to be governing such a place, the Founding Fathers even spoke of this...
 
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